*** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

Whoa

Whoa, I've never seen that Destroyer test before, I wonder what it does to those poor drives I'll go read about it...
In all the other tests the SM951 is crushing it though, so it does seem inconsistent, plus some of the values, like latency, seem unrealistic.
I haven't even felt real world difference between raid or non-raid, even if the benchmarks show significant advantage. I just had a video project where I used 7 layers of fullHD video without a hitch, so I'm happy.

What's the deal with someone advising not using Raid in our machines, but never explaining why?

 

They do talk about their tests in a fair amount of detail

Mostly I advise the use of raid when you have a max capacity drive for a slot and want to extend it, the slight speed boost in some cases is a nice bonus.

 

I just read about it, and I must say it is just testing crazy unrealistic multitasking capabilities, so it's not applicable to any real life pro or home user. But yeah, it's good to have different variations of tests...
Reading 7 uncompressed video layers wouldn't be possible with a sata SSD, but still, only a single NVMe wouldn't have a problem...

Maybe you could help me, with a single drive I got the standard 2200MBps, in Raid they show 3200, when others in tests got much better scalling, going way over 4000. What could be the problem? The only thing that comes to mind is Intel storage chipset firmware upgrade if it's possible. Maybe it's just part of the Bios?

 

Hello. I'm new in the Batman forum although i have been keeping an eye on it for a long time. Time to make my first post.
I have been waiting for almost 2 months for the P771dm-g barebone to arrive
at my local Estonian reseller "Ordi". I want to get one with 6700 or 6700k (have'nt decided) and 970m. Should get here around mid January.
I have couple of questions, that i hope you can help me out with. Let it be noted
that i have'nt found answers to these questions through google and from reading posts on different forums. Feel free to correct my questions and facts.

q1. As far i know, optimus is nonexistent because of the desktop cpu.
Is there ANY way at all to activate temporarily iGPU, even if it needs restart or modding vbios/bios.

q2. I f***** up my last purchase in the name of m.2. ssd. How the hell should i have
known that my asus only supported msata while i bought the one for pcie.
Which one's does p771dm-g support?

q3. I understand that there are modified vbios mods from prema and modified usual bios mods. Do i need modified bios for my p771dm-g and why.

q4. I fear that sooner or later i want to install modified vbios for my 970m.
It is unclear for me from prema mod site, that does the correct vbios exist for
my configuration or not (old and new posts mixed all over the net are the reason for my confusion). There are two versions there
6GB MXM GTX970M-G:
CLEVO_6GB_GTX970M-G_OC_PM_v1.1.1

6GB MXM GTX970M-G (DM):
CLEVO_6GB_GTX970M-G_DM_OC_PM_v1.1.1

What's the difference?

q5. What dgpu drivers should i install and from which site (nvidia/clevo), that work with prema mod. I have heard that some drivers have disabled dgpu overclocking and some versions of them are just plain f***** up.

q6. If i don't receive 3g module with antenna, is it possible for me to buy it additionally.

q7. last question (sorry for posting it here). Does p870dm support single 970m?

Hope to hear from soon. By then i'll hopefully have more questions.

 

welcome, and first off: uve made a great choice in going for a batman machine

1) theres no sense in activating the igpu, since its not physically connected to any display outputs

2) the DM series supports both PCI-E and sata, so u can basically get any m.2 drive on the market to run in this baby

3) well, depends what kinda guy you are: do u love tweaking, overclocking, undervolting, benchmarks, full control over your system? then premamod is for you. if you prefer to run everything out of the box without any tinkering, u dont really "need" it. for what its worth though, i would still recommend flashing the vbios for the GPU, it will improve your performance even at stocks clocks due to less throttling

4) first one is for the 970M in GSync compatible machines before skylake arrived. the second one would the the correct one in your case (should u go for a g-sync model batman)

5) always go for the most current drivers from nvidia´s website. currently though, the newest 361 series driver has been shown to suck badly! so best to stick with 359.06 for now

6) the antennas will be preinstalled in your machine, ud just need to get the 3G/4G module and install it

7) yes it sure does. although i havent seen any users sporting that config yet. so far, only 980M in SLI or 980 mobile desktop

 

Thank You very much jaybee83 for all the answers.

I'd like a little bit elaboration about the first answer. While i understand it is impossible for me to use iGPU through the software, is it possible even if only theoretically to connect it to display output? I fully understand it being desktop replacement and all, just curious.

Second thing i'm a little bit confused is, although i would have gone myself too for the
prema's CLEVO_6GB_GTX970M-G_DM_OC_PM_v1.1.1, why is it that many people
in the forums are experiencing bsod's and there is much talk about hardware id's
not corresponding to the actual cards.

And the third thing... well it's only a speculative question but interesting nonetheless.
As i lost my last 1500$ laptop (don't know where and how... booze saw to that. i'm an idiot). My friend suggested, that i could sew a gps transmitter into my backpack.
My question being.... Are there any possibilites for me to integrate somekinda gps
transmitter into the p771dm-g. First thing that comes to mind would be through m.2?!

 

well, the only way ull be able to connect the iGPU to a display output would be with a soldering iron

no, seriously: the iGPU is not connected to either the internal display output nor any of the outside connectors such as HDMI, TB3 and displayport. even if u activate it, u just cannot connect any display to it, so its of no use, really...

occurrence of bsods can be multifold in nature....thermals, voltages, software issues, drivers, hardware issues with ram / gpu / cpu / storage, u name it!

as for the hardware IDs, thats why prema made different kinds of his vbios mods, they correspond to the different hardware IDs of the same model gpus that are on the market today. one 970M is not always identical to the other when it comes to its vbios compatibility. so best to inform yourself before u flash anything, otherwise u could brick your machine

hmmm....there indeed is a possibility to install a 3G / 4G module on the DM series via M.2, some of those moduls actually do come with GPS. naturally, ull have to make sure that the guy who finds it doesnt just wipe the storage and / or install a new system on it, otherwise the gps (and your tracking settings) wouldnt work anymore

how in HECK did u lose a 1.5k machine? thats just sad...

 

To use an M.2 gps your computer would have to be outdoors, powered on, running your software and be connected to the Internet... Much more hassle than just not carrying around expensive stuff while getting wasted.
You could use something like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...ps+tracker&dpPl=1&dpID=41icrGNTWEL&ref=plSrch
And there are plenty of similar options on Amazon or eBay...
It's even small enough to fit in one of the 2,5' sata drive slots (the one you're not using) and it has a 10 day standby battery. It'd still probably have to be outdoors, but maybe this one can send a "last known location".
I wouldn't be trying to prepare to loose my laptop if I were you, I would prevent it by not carying it to bars.

 

Well i hope i ain't gonna be so stupid with my next love (although the last asus 77 something did have throttling in the 960m vbios, that has not been cured by the community to my knowledge), to carry it around, when i know for a fact that
i'm gonna go drinking in the weekend. But, nonetheless, about the gps. I'm not familiar with these modules, so i'm thinking that would'nt it be possible for the gps transmitter modules software to be independent from the pc apart from drawing power from the m.2. Correct me if i'm wrong, but are'nt there any standalone miniaturized gps transmitters with a onboard battery or something. This is just my logic speaking.

 

You can get tracker devices, I'm not sure about one small enough to fit inside. Though usually working to prevent theft and having good encryption/insurance is easier.

 

Hi. Help me out with something. I'm reading those outdated articles / comments
about nvidia disabling OC in their drivers as of version 347 something and afterwards
no info. Are the 359.06 drivers again open to OC or not. I'm usually not very fond
of overclocking in terms of hardware longetivity, (please persuade me over to the dark side) but the the whole throttling thing in pc market came to me by surprise with my last asus. g771jw. Seriously... a while back my first pc, when i was 11 years old had 120mhz intel cpu.
Throttle What?? And to prevent any letdowns i'm ready for anything.

 

The latest sets are free of that restriction yes.

 

100th post and 1st post of the new year hope all had a good holiday and a great start thus far.

Thunderbolt 3 displays seem to be making their entrance this year,Atleast the Razor Core is...Exciting times.

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-stealth#razer-core-specs

 

Yeah, I remember seeing that. I think it was one of the XMG guys that mentioned it. Can't remember seeing any details though.
Would be nice to know as I've just bought another 256Gb SM951 to put in mine.
(BTW, also got mine from PC specialist )

 

Happy New Year all. Seeking some clarification. So, does that mean

1. This machine is NOT restricted to a single 4x PCIe but rather supports dual 4x PCIe SSD?

2. If it IS restricted to a single 4x PCIe device and you stick in 2 of SM951, does each SM951 downgrade to 2x PCIe speed?

3. When a SATA SSD is used in the m.2 slot, does it use the PCIe lanes for data transmission or does it use a separate SATA circuitry?

3. If @Luka would be so kind, is there anyway to verify how many PCIe lanes each SM951 is using?

 

1) correct, its not restricted

2) see 1)

3) an m.2 sata drive does not use up any pcie lanes

4) it uses a max of 4 lanes of pcie version 3.0

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Thank you so much. I guess I'm in the market for another 950 pro.

 

As jaybee said, there is technically no reason to slow down, there are plenty of PCI lanes on the Skylake system, and they are separate yes... I was just looking to see if it shows anywhere and can't find it. In BIOS under Intel Rapid Technology RAID numbers of PCIe lanes are not showing...

How can you guys explain my RAID not scaling as well as it should? I'm getting about 3200MBps throughoutput when it should go over 4000.

 

It might sound a silly question but I could not find it answered around here. Enabling/disabling optimus on an nvidia powered clevo is just a matter of drivers or do I have to choose to have it or not when I buy it?

The battery looks awesome (similar to alienware 15) but I also like the unsoldered components and "lots-of-slots" thing that the dell alternative does not provide, which could increase its lifetime in my hands.

I might care to do all the non-optimus fancy stuff in the future but right now I need most out of the battery when away from home. Is there anyone that did some battery life tests with Optimus on? They should be comparable with Alienware's.

 

It has been answered here many times... Some of us actually read all of the 280 pages before posting haha
No, optimus can not work in our machines. Now way, no how. It was not designed to use desktop processors.

I just played Assasin's Creed Syndicate on a plane with a bluetooth headset and a bluetooth PS4 controller for about an hour-hour and a half before it fell to 10%. I have the 17.3' version.

 

Sorry, by searching "optimus" in this thread I wasn't able to get a clear answer :S

That is what I did not understand then: Alienware 15 R1 mounts Core i7-4720HQ and supports Optimus.. and it is a laptop processor. You are saying Clevo do NOT support desktop processors.. so what is the problem? Did you say it right?
Alienware mounts processors with "H" letter which now I think is for "mobile counterpart"?

 

Hi. I'm also interested in carrying my laptop around and working on battery. By that i mean x264 movies, maybe bit of internet, music and solitaire. Highend games
would be played only if it's connected by charger.
Do i understand correctly that under these circumstances i'll have around 2h-2.5h
battery. What i'm more interested, is how the these external battery packs work.
Like the energizer x18000a

http://lifehacker.com/five-best-external-battery-packs-509802431

At the end it all comes down to price and at some point it would be wiser to have
backup clevo battery capacity/price wise. Does anyone have experience with those.
Can i charge up my p771dm-g battery with one these, while at the same time
using internet or watching movies?

 

i7-4720hq is soldered mobile processor. You can not change it or upgrade it without soldering iron
and very specific know-how. Because it is mobile processor, it usually supports optimus.

Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM are both with upgradeable desktop processors. Optimus was never built
for likes of these. Desktop processor means raw ******* power, so....

If you want optimus, try other (not so powerful) clevo laptops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)

 

Something I've noticed is that when playing Starwars Battlefront with stock hardware, and settings, that the laptop's temp can spike upwards of 198 F seems a little hot right? Infact I had the laptop completely freeze up at one point. Do you think a bad pasting job was done by the OEM? Now the temps are about 188-193 average while playing the game. *Oh and the the CPU utilization is only 50% can't imagine what the temps would be at a 100%

So I though well heck let's run a stress test using XTU and see what the CPU temp gets at a 100% load. Well the temps were actually cooler around like 175 F. Then it dawned on me that XTU only stress the CPU. While gaming the CPU & Graphics card both gets stressed which would explain the higher temps while running at only 50% CPU utilization.

So my question does that seem out of the norm for those high temps while playing Starwars Battlefront in Ultra HD settings?

Is there a program that will stress both cpu and graphics card at the same time? And what should my temps be at while stressing both cpu and graphics card?

Thanks,


*For all you interested in batteries, I've got a solution that I've come up with that will give you 5 hours of battery with a nice little battery pack : ) That I'll post soon, I thought I had already posted but perhaps I haven't.

 

Uh let us know as soon as you can, it could make up my mind

 

those 4000 MB/s in bandwidth is only theoretical in nature. in real life u always have some kind of overhead, which reduces the maximum available bandwidth somewhat. in your case youre exactly where u should be at around 3000-3300 MB/s, so no worries u just cannot squeeze any more performance out of those pcie lanes in raid

hmm, those temps in the high 80 (celsius that is!) seem a tad high, but everything below 90C for prolonged periods of time is actually fine. still, i would open up the machine and do a repaste on both gpu and cpu. id recommend highend pastes such as IC Diamond, GC Extreme or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut...

things that also help:

- regular dusting of the innards, specifically the heatsink fins and fan blades
- propping up the back of the machine, i.e. by using two plastic bottle caps under the hind rubber feet -> improves airflow
- fresh / low ambient temps
- placing the laptop on a hard surface (no sheets or other soft material beneath it) and making sure the vents are not blocked by any stuff (including walls )

 

Optimus is a technology made for laptops, which means laptop processors. It doesn't support desktop processors, and Batman was made to take desktop processors. The only advantage of Optimus is squeezing out a few minutes of battery life, so it's not something you should be bothered about.

 

Exactly! I had the same problem while rendering video. After effects and Premiere were using the CPU and the GPU heavily at the same time, so XTU was showing heavy throttling, but that was before I found out about the Fn+1 trick, so more tests are in order...

 

But I saw a few benchmarks showing 4000+ Oh well...

 

Well it should be hours when it is possible to completely disable dgpu. I guess it is not possible with desktop components and, even if it is, they still suck much more than mobile counterpart.

I still need a laptop more than a portable desktop, probably i'm going with alien looks like a good compromise for me.

 

The 980M is still a laptop GPU, so it's capable to save power when it's not being pushed with games and stuff... It does use a few more watts than Intel graphics would, but this laptop was made for performance more than mobility. If one has enough money to buy a pimped Batman 2, it shouldn't be a problem to buy another 250£ ultrabook that will be extremely portable in size and battery life.
It depends on what you use it for, but if you can afford it, you can have the best of both worlds for a little extra and not a compromise.
I'm actually planning to buy this one:
http://m.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_232112.html
Also, there are many more Clevo laptops that you should check out, I'm sure they would also be cheaper than the equivalent Alienware. I'm not paid for promoting Clevo here, I'm just happy with it

 

hmmm....come to think of it, i mightve mixed up pcie 2.0 lanes and 3.0 lanes. the former have a max. theoretical bandwidth of 500MB/s, the latter 1GB/s. at 4 lanes each one would get up to 2GB/s and 4GB/s, respectively, with a single drive. real life performance would be capped around 1.5GB/s and 3GB/s, respectively. so ure actually right, two 950 pros / sm951 drives in raid could very well break 4GB/s....

several factors to consider:

- at those bandwidths, the cpu and ram become bottlenecks. the higher the cpu/ram clocks, the more bandwidth ull get out of ur storage! also make sure ure running in windows high performance mode...

- both sm951 and 950 pro are known to thermal throttle, especially in longer benchmarks. make sure to be at a cool ambient temperature, see what happens if u take off the backplate and put a an active cooler beneath the machine pointing directly at the drives

- make sure ure using both the latest intel rapid storage technology drivers, as well as the samsung nvme drivers, theyre immensely important for optimal performance!

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I posted some info on throttling, it's not an issue at all. SM951 is throttling much less than the 950 Pro, only slightly after copying more than 120GB at full speed...

I'm using the latest Intel drivers, but why would Windows need nvme drivers? All Windows see is the Intel Rapid Storage chipset which is supplying info about the raid, it doesn't care what type of drivers are attached to it.

I'm affraid it might be the Bios limiting the speed.

 

Anyone having issues with Intel XTU and Watchdog on Windows 10? I have had to uninstall and reinstall XTU every boot in order to maintain Intel's Watchdog. It is only "true" during the initial install, once I reboot to test my undervolting and underclocking, the status becomes "false" and I get the warnings about changing values becoming unrecoverable.

 

Try Run As Administrator on the installer to remove, or just uninstall, and then Run As Administrator on the installer to install.

When it asks to remove preferences / etc, do it. And then recreate your profiles, don't import them.

If you use an uninstaller app like IOBit Uninstaller, use that to find traces to remove after the Intel uninstaller has run - run power uninstall instead of normal uninstall, and let the uninstaller app manage the uninstall.

This helped on Windows 8.1, I haven't tried it on Windows 10

 

Wondering if Oculus will be compatible. It needs 4 USB and we have 3.

 

The new spec requires 3x USB 3.0 ports + 1x USB 2.0 port, as I recall previously it was 2 USB ports with 1 needing to be powered.

Oculus Rift Minumum PC Spec Finalized
Four USB ports required; Launch units include Xbox One Controller, standalone sensor, and Oculus Remote.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/oculus-rift-minumum-pc-spec-finalized/1100-6433566/

For Rift to perform at an optimal level with your computer, we recommend that you have 3 available USB 3.0 ports and 1 available USB 2.0 port.
https://support.oculus.com/hc/en-us/articles/214825888-USB-compatibility

1x 3.0 USB port for the headset
1x 3.0 USB port for the 3D Positional Tracker
1x 3.0 USB port for Oculus Touch (available at a later date)
1x 2.0 USB port for Xbox wireless controller

For now you can run with 1 less USB 3.0 port as the Oculus Touch isn't shipping...

Also, I haven't tried it yet/recently, but can't you bind the Xbox One Wireless controller with BT on the PC, so down another USB 2.0 port?

So are we back to 2 USB 3.0 ports, 1 powered?

Update: Nope, need the proprietary Xbox One wireless adapter, just like with the Xbox 360 wireless controller on the PC, so back to needing 2x-3x USB 3.0 and 1x USB 2.0 ports.

 

you should be fine in any case, guys. the DM sports a total of 5 USB ports: 3x standard USB 3.0 Type A, 1x USB 3.1 Type C, 1x USB 3.0 / eSATA combo port

 

You should be able to run some of the devices through a hub. Particularly the controller/s.

I get the feeling most of that stuff (minus xbox controller) are specifying USB3.0 more for the increased power budget than bandwidth.

 

Actually, unlike the Xbox controller, you can connect the PS4 controller natively in windows. Even without any extra drivers, only the ones Windows install automatically when pairing using Bluetooth, I can play games that support it (like Assasin's Creed for instance), and in case there's a game that doesn't support it there's an Xbox controller emulator for the PS4 controller that makes the game think you're using an Xbox controller (which almost all Windows games support) called DS4Windows. So, you can use the amazing PS4 controller via Bluetooth and make Oculus think it's Xbox. One USB port less needed.

 

Since Oculus ships with the Xbox One controller I thought there might be more functionality using it rather than PS4 controller - or PS3 controller over BT. But, it's worth a shot, one less wire

 

Nope, the PS4 controller actually has more functionality than the Xbox. The emulator just uses the Xbox driver and maps the keys to the PS4 one. It works great and Windows thinks it's Xbox. Even the dualshock feedback, led lights settings and the touchpad on it works (things that Xbox doesn't have).
The only reason it ships with Oculus is for Windows compatibility and contracts (it's a Microsoft product after all). But the PS4 is superior in every way, number one being it's ability to be used wirelessly. It's only a matter of prefference if someone likes the Xbox ergononics.

 

Hi. I just wanted to express my gratitude and happiness over the feature Flexycharge.
By reading a post by xmg on page 55 i understand that xmg and clevo are to thank for that. When i started seaching for a new computer a year ago, i was very disappointed
to see, that many laptops are taking the course of integrated battery. I believe
that you should never (read: as little as possible) charge only half empty battery
OR charge a empty battery to less than 99%. I don't care and i don't believe what articles are saying about li-on technology. When i bought my new lion battery powered hp in 2011. It held up for 3 hours. 4 years later the hp had fan problems
due to the bad/lack of access to the fan. Whatever. But after 4 years, the li-on held
the line by keeping it around the initial 3 hours (i charged it from 5-10% to 100%
3 times a week approx) and while many, who did not share my beliefs had problems
with deteriorating li-ons...either cell phones or laptop. I thought that i will NEVER
by a laptop with integrated battery. Now, with flexycharger bios option i can theoretically overlook the integrated battery (should i wish to go for 870dm-g although
i'm staying true to p771dm-g). Thank you, Xmg and Clevo.

 

well, the battery is not really integrated per se, u can still remove it easily via a few screws so no worries there!

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It's integrated for me, when you can't remove it in moment's notice, soldered or not. When using my hp, and i plugged it to the wall socket i immediately removed the battery every time. No worries there. Can't imagine myself screwing those screws everytime. The funny thing is that, around a year ago i started to "dream" about a feature such as flexycharge, long before i knew it existed. First time i heard about it was a month ago by reading a p771dm-g manual online.

 

Hi all,
I'll joining the club next monday! Ordered my P771DM-G from Eurocom on Wed 6th and shipped on Thurs 7th, with UK delivery on Mon 11th. (Impressed by the ship time! I was being quoted at least a couple of weeks as well as higher cost ordering nationally) I'll mostly be using it for gaming/transcoding and actual coding. After buying a Lenovo a couple of years ago where I've had to constantly manually flash the BIOS chip to remove h/w whitelists I'm thrilled to be having something I can tinker with a bit more.

Other than the 6700k and 980M I've bought it fairly barebones since I have quite a few components sitting around I plan on putting in there and was hoping someone might help clear a few things up for me. I've read the service manual a couple of times and feel happy doing all the bits and pieces I have planned but I'm not sure what to expect.

1. I've ordered it with one 2.5" drive, I'm aware there is a slot for another but is there usually the drive assembly/foam inserts for the second drive in place? I have either a 1TB 5400rpm or a 250GB Samsung 850 SSD I'll be installing and just wondering how it will be secured? From what I can see in the service manual the drives are just held in by friction and the sata connection?

2. I'll be installing a 256GB SM951 ACHI (I bought too early for NVME). I can see there's airflow over one side of the SSD, is it worth using thermal pads for the other side? What sort of thickness should I be looking at?

3. What metal is the CPU/GPU cooler made of or what TIM to use?
IC Diamond 7 was the only option for thermal paste, that's cool, it's a great paste but I know it doesn't always play nice with coolers and can leave scratches and the like. After I delid am I still best off using a fresh application of IC7, otherwise I'll have CLU (less keen on using since it will react with the copper(?) heatspreader) and MX-4 lying around.

4. Can the USB 3.1 port be used for charging the laptop or are there any larger compatible battery packs?
If the USB can be used for charging any recommendations for an external battery? I'd prefer a larger internal battery though, having a raised laptop from the extra cells is something I'm used to anyway.

5. I understand there's limited overclocking in UEFI? CPU multiplier would be configurable from Intel XTU only?

6. Is it worth getting some kind of cooling pad for it? I know it'll be able to handle the heat but if I was looking for a bit of noise reduction at high load?

 

1. You usually get everything you need to add in anything. You can double check with your reseller of course.
2. You should get thermal pads with it for that purpose (again double check with your reseller)
3. Copper, IC diamond works well.
4. No, there is no power input circuitry on it. Most external batteries would be too puny in comparison to bother with.
5. XTU without the prema mod bios.
6. Prop up the back a couple of centimeters to help the fans.

 

Thanks for the quick reply!
1. 2. 3. Appreciate the knowledge. Good to know, will have to see what it arrives with at this point!
4. Yeah I wasn't thinking a typical phone external battery, I have piles of 18650's was thinking a 6 or 8 cell affair but ah well, if the circuitry isn't there it isn't there.
And no extended battery packs available?
5. Fair enough, I'll stick to Windows and XTU for now and I'll be awaiting the prema bios.
6. Definitely the more elegant solution there. So it's not worth less rpm more fans, less noise?

 

No extended packs, the battery is as large as the chassis can cope with (It's not small in capacity).

The system can draw the air it needs, extra fans wont do a whole lot.

 

I was thinking batteries that extend beyond the chassis, ones that would even prop the back up but realising now with the battery placement that wouldn't be so feasible. Might buy a spare and try modding it in sometime in the future.

Thanks again for the info!