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Hello everyone, i am thinking about buying clevo laptop with i7 6700 non K and gtx 970m. Now i have msi gs60 with poor gtx850m. And i have few questions about clevo.
What clevo p7xxDM-G better to buy. p750 or p770. For example p770 is bigger and might be colder?
Can i instal win 7 on this clevo laptop? What problems with drivers can be?

 

Get the P775DM, more GPU upgrade options and better cooling than the 770/750DM(since it needs to cool the optional 180W GTX980). Choose a Prema partner for max performance.

EDIT:Yes you can install windows 7. It is easy to do on a SATA drive but it isn't as simple on NVMe SSDs, refer to this guide by @Phoenix for instructions
http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10160638

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I am also think about p775, because if buy from mysn.de, price will be same as p770 if configure with 6700 non k and gtx 970m
and what do you mean choose a Prema partner? buy laptop from prema?
And if i understand right, NVMe SSD this is superfast ssd like a 950 samsung? Now i have samsung m.2 850 and this is pretty good for me

 

Shops that offer Prema's unlocked BIOS with overclocking warrenty covered
https://biosmods.wordpress.com/partner/

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Little bit expensive for me. I would like to buy laptop 2000-2200 eur max.

 

Citation needed, otherwise this is FUD. Currently running Windows 7 on a NVMe drive on my desktop and also had it running on a P750ZM with no issues, both in UEFI with CSM enabled. Currently waiting on a P750DM-G from HIDevolution but I seriously doubt anything is changed. The thing most people get hung up on is the USB drivers, which is really easy to workaround. Did you know you can overwrite "boot.wim" and "setup.exe" in the sources folder of your Windows 7 install USB or ISO with the ones from Windows 10? This gets you past any initial USB driver issues and you will need to install drivers from a SATA drive after you are done with the initial setup. Loading your NVMe driver at setup time from the "Load Driver..." is also needed but is incredibly straight forward.

 

It is that the process isn't straightforward. Like installing Windows 7 in UEFI/CSM only on video (the graphics is the only legacy needed for Win7, the rest can run full uefi) with GPT instead of MBR/legacy. Even if you know what you are doing, it can sometimes be a pain in the ass. But you are correct, it is very possible!

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Yes, a 950 Pro from Samsung would be an NVMe drive. If you are fine with your 850s though, you could hopefully transfer those over to a new system (as long as they aren't mSata form factor). Or if you are happy with the speed of regular SSD, you can generally get a larger Sata III SSD for the same cost of a faster NVMe drive.

 

Don't forget, if the headache of NVMe is intimidating, track down an SM951 AHCI and use that. Not the same but does the job!

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AHCI version is a good jump in speed compared to a regular Sata SSD though. Still a nice upgrade even if it isn't as fast as the NVMe ones.

 

This should fit your budget
http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-clevo-p775dm-g-custom-built-gaming-desktop-replacement-laptop.html

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Just be aware of any local import changes of course

 

Thank you very much for your kind reply.
Very helpful!

 

ok, thanks a lot

 

Just get it from mysn.. The import and other charges stuff isn't worth it.. Prema BIOS will be released to public eventually so you'll be fine there..

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I will buy from mysn or ceg.
First of all because if i buy from USA, i need to pay additional payment on custom. For 2000 USD laptop from USA, +500 usd on customs. Stupid European Union and Latvia with stupid laws.
Secondly i dont need this stuff like factory new bios. Downloaded from prema bios will be enought for me.
I only want cheeper laptop with big potential to upgrade. Without any premium bios, without soldered all components to motherboard.

 

Ah if CEG is an option, go for them.. They're much faster in sending out the laptop etc and now their warranty is also much better then when I bought from them.. Highly recommend them, their prices are also cheaper then mysn..

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XMG U716 should be perfect. ceg doesn't list 970m option for P775DM(you could ask them directly)

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Yep, I agree with god1729 on this. In terms of performance and functionality, go for the P775DM(-G) and you can get it with the 970m through the resellers he mentions. Hope there is a place you can get it with minimal shipping, customs fees, import fees, etc.

 

I don't know why the OP wants to go with 970M but the 980M is a much better option now.. The 970M is becoming obsolete much faster.. 980M with 30% more performance at stock is worth the slight extra..

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A new Nvidia driver, 365.10, just got released, and G-Sync on 750dm-g is working with it.

 

Confirmed - also been tested with P651.

As stated before, the fix would be rolled out with the next WHQL release - we just had to wait a little longer than we hoped berore Nvidia released it

 

I agree, 2016 AAA titles need a 980m to meet 1080p recommended specs. Also with a minor overclock it will meet the minimum VR spec. That said, right now it would be wiser to wait for the (rumoured) Pascal launch in June (which is what I'm doing), expect more details after the Editor's event on May 6.

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I dont need 980m right now, maybe in future i will upgrade to 980 without m, but now i dont need it.

 

Don't do this.. It isn't worth doing that.. This is coming from someone who chose a 970M and now regrets it.. Get a 980M even if you don't strictly need it now.. Down the road, upgrading will be hassle and will cost more then doing it now when buying the laptop..

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I wouldn't consider ANY Maxwell card right now, wait till 6th an you'll know why.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-introduce-gtx-1080-gtx-1070-battlefield-5/
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gpus-geforce-mobility-june-2016/

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Note that the article about mobile cards was published 2 months ago and the article about Battlefield is only discussing desktop cards.....not that I'm trying to sway anyone's decision one way or the other, just pointing out a couple of observations.

 

Agreed. The one about mobile cards are to give an idea what is likely to be used while the one about desktop cards is to give an idea on specs that may be found on mobile cards. It's not precise, but is to balance the information coming out about the 1080m. Now, this says nothing on real world performance, yet, but suggests they may be fighting to get back in...

Edit: sorry, I see that was top his post. I made a similar one on ZM thread:

[quote uid=228653 name="jaybee83" post=10249494]looks like ill need to take another look at TB <br /><br />on another note, first performance leak suggests 1080M to be ~40% faster than the 980M stock vs. stock, so less than 20% difference to an oced 980M. skipping this gen and waiting for at least 50% difference to my highest oc <br /><br />Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]<br />Gonna leave this here for you!<br /> http://www.tweaktown.com/news/51942/amds-upcoming-radeon-r9-m480-rocks-polaris-11-gpu/index.html<br /> http://wccftech.com/amd-teases-polaris-11-polaris-10-gpus-reconstructed-die-size-232-mm/

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Nvidia will launch a mobile card that supports VR. Neither more nor less. And next year with only slightly better performance as usual. Only hope for much higher performance improvement is that Amd can provide better competition in the future. But will Amd deliver? That's the question.

 

Great will get this installed. However will keep 362.00 just incase I need to roll back

 

AMD's delivery is a huge question over the next year on many fronts.

 

Patch notes from the NV driver:
[364.72] G-SYNC option missing from Clevo P751DM-G after an update to the R364 drivers. [1748834]

Just an FYI, this works on my P750DM-G (for anyone worried if there's a difference between the 751/750).

 

Zen (8 Core) + Polaris version of P750DM would be nice I'm not sure how many of us will buy one though :/

 

Buy just a new mb for it and processor and video card.... That is about$1400+. At that point, you might just buy a second machine...

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I think people would be interested, but it would all come down to price and performance, just like any laptop. There are occasionally people wanting specifically AMD over Nvidia for various reasons, but I think most people would look at it and say "what can it do for me, and how does it compare to ..... model?" If it works well, and it is competitively priced, I think people would look at a computer regardless of brands.

 

well, i doubt clevo is going to expand beyond traditional Intel cpu + nVidia dGPU models.. We haven't even seen iris pro laptops from them or even an eGPU dock :/
so even if Zen +Polaris had better price perf, i doubt Clevo is going to do anything dramatic

 

Have any of you received your rift CV1/vive yet?
please post your testing/gaming results and opinions(with GPU used and overclock set if any)

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There have been iris pro models and external gpus are extremely new tech which does not have a proven record yet.

 

Clevo did offer AMD MXM cards before, but those slowly phased out along the same time other brands stopped offering AMD models really. So I wouldn't completely write that option off.

And a lot of companies haven't done anything with eGPUs to this point, not just Clevo. It is still new tech, as Meaker mentioned, and who knows what we might see in the future. Maybe companies are skeptical of how well they might sell before getting in the market. There are some people that are all for them, but there are some people that say an mobile processor and desktop graphics wouldn't be worth it, or you might as well get a typical desktop for the price point. Maybe, there might be more announcements of eGPUs whenever the next wave of laptops are unveiled (that is just hypothetical, please don't read in to it, I honestly don't know of any future plans). When Razer announced their eGPU, it was along side new laptop model that were designed to work along with it. It would make sense to announce an eGPU almost as like an accessory to compliment your new laptop.

 

I bought a LTE/4g module (me906e) and a 3g antenna for it.
Some p750dm-g has built-in LTE antenna but mine didn't have one.

And now I have a 15'' inch laptop ([email protected], 980m, DDR4 16gb@2800) with a LTE module.
I love this small laptop.

 

After the 7970M there was not too much from AMD to be that interested about, that was the issue.

king of the 15 inch machines out there for sure

 

I have posted in the overclockers lounge but I'm hoping someone from here might if had similar issues

Right another update. Whenever i do a bench of just the CPU my overclock stays fixed.<br />I have just put everything back to stock CPU &amp; GPU and it is still happening. @ stock 4.0Ghz and 0 mV I get the worst current throttling. (It dropped to 3.5Ghz @ one point and 81% throttle.) This is while i'm in game, and is doing same as MrFox's video except my cpu clocks clockdown.<br /><br />If I drop change the voltage offset to what i usually have -175mV i still get some slight throttling now and again but no where as my at 0mV. <br /><br />It doesn't seem to be linked to temp because my bench runs higher than in the game. This seems to be linked to voltage somehow.

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I have seen setting the limits crazy high cause issues, try setting 200 amps for the current limit and see if that helps.

 

Cheers mate. I will give it a go now.

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No joy im afraid mate. After playing Crysis 3

 

They discussed this issue in the P870DM thread early on (first 150 pages). Search for keywords in that thread. That may shine some light on it. What bios are you using? Stock or Prema?

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How did you do that? Now i want one too. Though i can always tether my laptop to my phone but this is way cooler.

 

Add in the card and route your own antennae, the SIM slot has to be there too.

 

(Stick to one thread for help and not spreading your questions over multiple threads - Use the Clevo OC thread). Could you please download Throttlestop and putt into your OC settings there instead and test again. Use only XTU for monitoring or Hwinfo. And do not boot up Xtu and Throttlestop simultaneously in windows. Throttlestop can be found in @unclewebb sig http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

He run stock bios!!

 

I hope I was not interpreted as saying ask in that thread. I meant that a discussion dealing with this same issue, same cpu, has already been discussed and that by reading what they found the problem to be, some more information on abatement could be found...

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