*** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

As confusing as that truly sounds, thanks for that information. Naturally that makes me wonder what would it take to change a non-gsync 750DM into a g-sync unit. for instance, there would be specific "replacement" display screens that are g-sync approved / compatible that would easily work in a non-gsync 750DM, yes ? also the laptop Bios could possibly be flashed on a non-gsync unit to make it a g-sync laptop, yes ? However, one very confusing point of info you raised is regarding the GPU. quite confusing is the notion that there are in fact 2 different kinds of mobile GPUs from Nvidia (one being a gsync, and then one being a non-gsync). so you mean to say that there are in fact 2 different kinds of say 980M or 970M or even 965M Nvidia cards ? in searching and researching cards (even Quadros), I have never seen any distinction made by 3rd party sellers in regards to a card as being a "g-sync" card, or a "non-gsync" card. are you certain, that when it comes to compatible Nvidia GPU cards, that possibly it is just a matter or case of vBios making all the difference ? I do agree with your assessment, the whole thing sounds like a bunch of hooey / smoke & mirrors to a large extent.

 

Yes, G-sync GPUs have a resistor added to them and a different hardware ID compared to non-G MXM cards. Now, a desktop G-sync display is different. It has added hardware on the display end and will work with ordinary video cards in desktops or laptops. It's only the internal feature on laptops that make it so proprietary. You cannot enable G-sync unless all of the pieces are in place to activate the license. You would need a display panel on NVIDIA's whitelist, GPUs with the right hardware ID and resistor, a BIOS with the special code added for the licensing... quite the rats nest of software/firmware prerequisites to have all of the stars aligned so G-sync can be turned on.

 

Agreed wise friend, quite the rats nest indeed

 

It makes me want to lug around a desktop computer with a battery wired to it instead of a laptop. I'm comfortable with all of the standardized parts for a desktop computer, but not all of the proprietary parts that only work one direction only in a laptop these days...

 

Im thinking of buying p751dm2-g, but i have a small problem. Everyone is offering it with a 230w ac adapter. The thing here is that a 6700k consumes more than 100w with full load and as far as i know desktop gtx 1070 consumes 150w. So that would make total power consumption of 250w for only the cpu and gpu not to mention hard drives etc. How is 230w psu enough for that?

I can't find 1070 mobile variant power consumption numbers anywhere, but even if it had a power consumption of 100w that would still make it dangerously close to limits.

Jesus it's so hard to find a good deal.

 

The TDP varies by manufacturer and the 6700K is a 95W CPU, if you intend to totally max it then I would call up shops and see if they will give you a 330W brick instead. It will be a good chance to test their CS

 

Already asking about it. My intention is that when it runs out of juice i will turn it to a desktop. Obsidian is willing to swap it for 96€ and PCspecialist won't let you.

Thinking of going with the Obsidian route.

Do you guys think that p751dm2-g get's a bios update for Kaby lake cpu's?

I will propably go with 6600k and when i need to upgrade then buy i7 7700k.

 

Hi ,
What do you mean about clevo p751dmg-2 ?
Good machine with i7 6700k , compared with MSI gt72vr with i7 6700hq ?
Thanks

 

Forget BGA. All hardware is soldered. NO NO from me. A so called Jokebook. Select laptops with socket hardware. If you are going to use your laptop for more than just gaming... The much much better 6700K crush a 6700BGA before breakfast

 

I'm thinking about gettting a Eurocom P775DM1( I like the screen), I'm wondering if it's possible to put in a GTX 1060 GPU in there, like the one in the Eurocom Tornado F5

 

Yeah you can, although it wouldn't be a DM1 anymore. I believe you're looking at the Sky X7E2. IMO you should get the 1070 because it's way more bang for the buck, and doesn't cost that much more (at least compared to 1070 to 1080).

Hadriel

 

Over the last year my 4 pin DC connector has become loose. It will fall out of the socket with very little force. Any ideas on how to "stiffen" it back up again?

 

Have a look at the connector on the PSU and jack on the machine, take pictures if you like and see if anything seems obvious wear wise. Worst case would be a jack replacement.

 

I'm thinking about buying the Clevo P775DM1 which is used in the Eurocom Sky DLX7, because I can make it too my liking.

 

Hey all, I have an origin eon 15x p750dm that will not boot. It was a barebones model.

I called support and they said it shouldn't/wouldn't boot without a gpu. I didn't realize that was the case.

Furthermore, they said that the system only supports 900 series nvidia graphics. Can I flash the bios on this without being able to boot?

Would I be able to use a 680m gpu?

I don't get anything off the display... perhaps I screwed things up during the install.... Any help would be appreciated.

 

Probably so. I tested 880M and it worked in my P750ZM. If you have a spare 680M try it and see.

 

Mr. Fox,

Thanks a bunch.

Which bios should I flash?

 

I am not sure if it matters if you have the latest @Prema BIOS. I would check there first. (I am not sure if there is a public release of the PremaMod BIOS for the P75x DM or not.)

In fact, I'd just try it with the BIOS you already have right now. 880M SLI worked fine in my P870DM-G as well. In fact, I set some new records for overclocked 880M SLI benchmarks with that machine.

 

Hmmm... no dice. The 680m is currently not working.

I'm getting no fans, no display image, no display backlight, just keyboard backlight, and no usb power.

Any thoughts?

Any way to force boot with the igpu?

 

No, iGPU won't work. Bummer... I thought the 680M would work. I guess it will need a different vBIOS or sBIOS to be compatible. Unless, perhaps, there is an option in the BIOS to manually select Legacy instead of UEFI for the video. That might work if you have that option unlocked in the BIOS.

 

You know what. I just remembered I used an alienware 680m. Would there be a way to blind flash the vbios?

I can't get any video right now, so getting to bios is a non-starter

 

dos flashing now to the offical clevo 680m image

 

No dice...

Anyone know if the private @Prema modded bios adds back-compatibility for nvidia gpus?

 

I don't think that was focused on so I would say likely not.

 

Ok thanks. I called HIDevolution... they suggested that it should be automatically backwards compatible... either way, I'll need to buy a new GPU. Any recommendations?

 

What are you after, just getting an image or still being gaming capable?

 

Image... I couldn't care less about gaming.

 

Then go with a 970m. Should be the cheapest bang for the bucks.

 

Ok, thanks for the tip.... looking to a freaking 970m. I have pmed half the members here on the forum looking for one. Anybody... I need one asap.

 

here are a couple of excellent sellers for graphics cards that would have the proper Nvidia GPU card for you (new) with the proper clevo vBios :
NBR member : woodzstack666 (excellent to deal with, located in Canada), can PM him.

also : Mike at Blairsville Tech Support in Georgia (706) 994-6183
~ both are really friendly honest knowledgeable sellers, highly recommend both. hope that helps you out !

 

As I said before: it depends where you're living.

@woodzstack666 would be an excellent choice.

Or you have an eye on ebay, for example:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/182328900342

 

Some quadro cards can go cheap and tend to work well too across brands.

 

Can someone please tell me if p750dmg models support egpu via tb3 regarding bios ect and if so is there anything special that would need to be done such as bios flashing or would it be simply plug and play with one of the egpu options available today currently? This may help soften the blow from the unfortunate lack of future Nvidia mxm support.

 

Saw this video of a 870dm getting/upgrading to the new 1070 from a 980m. Any idea if this too is possible for the 770dm?

Also any ideas where i can get a 1070? aside from rjtech. they have it @ 750usd

EDIT: looks like a barebones gt72

 

Looks like there has to be a additional power cable? I suppose they wont include that in a kit, I really would look forward to being on a 256 bit bus, with 1070 performance.

 

um....750usd for a 1070 is dirt cheap, i doubt ull get it cheaper anywhere else...just saying!

most important thing here would be an updated TB3 firmware thats supports egpu functionality. if u check your firmware itll say that its not supported. there IS an egpu capable tb3 firmware floating around the forums, but the users having access to it are very secretive and protective about it. havent heard an explanation for that yet, so no idea what the deal is there. could be that someone like @Prema modded the firmware accordingly and naturally doesnt want his work freely available.

aside from that, take a look at Zotac's current Zbox models, they sport standard mxm form factor 1060 and 1070 gpus theyre of course a bit more expensive than standalone cards, but u can always just swap out the gpu and sell off the Zbox system to minimize your net upgrade costs.

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TB NVM firmware version 21 will give eGPU on the P775DM3-G (according to the TB software)

This is the one that we've been given to use

The earlier model P750DM-G used a different TB controller so would need a different firmware

 

really? where did u get that firmware? im always surprised at the people reporting on egpu capable TBT firmwares, i really wanna know where the heck they come from and why the stock firmwares are not egpu capable!

 

I get them because I've been testing TB 2 devices through the Startech TB3 convertor and found that some device didn't work properly, but do if I use the same convertor on a TB 3 socket on a desktop, so I got in touch with the distributor who got in touch with Clevo and they sent me the update.

TBH I can't remember if the stock TB firmware comes with eGPU enabled or not

 

sooo, since im a member of this owner´s lounge now, i wanted to ask if anyone´s noticed a CPU TDP limit on our machines? i hit the jackpot this time around in both the heatsink and CPU silicon lottery and, naturally, i wanna make proper use of it

at 4.7 Ghz, i only need 1275 mV VCore to get the CPU stable. Temps are great too (70s to 80s in OCCT large data set all cores with max. 4C difference between cores, awesome flat heatsink FTW!), but i noticed that once i hit a CPU Package TDP of 126W+, im getting some kinda current limit throttling! Checking that in more detail in HWInfo i get the following two limit reasons:

1) IA: Electrical Design Point / Other = ICCMax, PL4, SVID, DDR RAPL
2) RING: Max VR Voltage, ICCMax, PL4

Now, since im sporting the Prema Bios Mod and also set all Wattage and Current limits to MAX there (both in XTU and the Bios itself, including PL1 through PL4 and PSYS MAX) im wondering what else I am missing here?

any input would be appreciated @Prema

 

Rather than moving the sliders all the way to the right what does setting them just above this limit?

 

u mean just below the limit? actually did that in xtu, instead of "unlimited" i adjusted the sliders to the highest specific value, i.e. 511,75W for short and long turbo max. no dice though. should i do the same with the bios values, set them a tad lower than absolute max?

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Thats interesting thanks for the heads up on that zbox system. I 'm also keeping watch for any future mxm card from amd that has a higher performance run than the 8gb 980m but I thought having a tb3 would be a sure fire method. On a side note I'm interested to see what limits you can achieve with your current setup. Its comforting to know we have options for improving the performance indeed.

Different tb3 controller ? I was under the impression that all clevo tb3 ports with skylake motherboards had the same tb3 support. My ultimate question is whether or not our model tb3 drive will work if I buy a atiko egpu system with the available firmware given to this particular batman model.

 

with freely available firmwares nope. and even if u get it to work, its not worth it imho, since u lose so mus performance by going over tb3. id wait and see how the standard mxm factor cards go and grab one of those instead of an egpu setup. go ahead and checkout the respective thread for more details on our mxm options:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?threads/795048/

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The P750DM-G is a different model to the P750DM3-G so they use a different TB 3 controller. The earlier models only had 1 TB 3 socket. The newer DM3 models have 2 TB 3 sockets and use a different controller which is why you need the right firmware for the right controller.
I can only go by the DM3 models which if on firmware 21 should have eGPU support according to the TB control panel. I can't check earlier versions as all our ship to us with firmware 21 already on them now.

Check this thread with regard to seeing what firmware you are on and if you can update it. If you are already on the latest then check the TB control panel to see if it thinks you have eGPU support
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p750dm-p770dm-thunderbolt-firmware-update-v16.792729/

 

I mean say setting 100/150? Something just above what you are using.

 

Hi :O)

I want to know how to obtain the latest release of bios my P750DM-G is Evoc version 1.2 (modded by Prema : 1.05.09 version, with 1.05.03 1st ans 2nd EC version)

I know version 1.05.15 and EC 1.05.04 is out, but don't know how to obtain a Prema Modded version.

if i could obtain the latest TB firmware (not for eGPU, but to avoid any possible problems) too.

if someone here have similar experience tu guide me. it will be cool.

Regards

 

See my previous post for a link to the TB firmware thread

 

If your reseller is a partner contact them.

 

Yep, i do this immediately just after reading your post :O)
Hope HIDevolution is fast as your reply is ;Op