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yes, i see you thread, trying to update, the Tools say me it's not the good version of Tools, i follow step by step your guide, but no success.

 

Hi Myx! Thank you very much for your posts! May I know why you opted out for the 3G instead of the faster 4G option?

 

Not sure what you mean. What's the exact error message?

BTW its not my guide, I just made a few posts in the thread

 

Looking at some coverage maps in Romania there may not be much point.

 

We are considering BIOS update for all DM models to support 7700K. What do you guys think about this? Would you upgrade CPU?

 

omg, that would be a godsend!!! yes please! even if DM owners wouldnt upgrade right away, but the mere existence of this option would be great to have its just a small microcode update, so i dont see a valid reason not to do it

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It's a lot more than a microcode update...

 

alright then, i guess i got my hopes up prematurely you can be sure that Ill bother you for an update of my PremaMOD once kaby lake is here though

 

How come? Has intel done some weird stuff lol?

 

Going from one gen to the next has always been like this with Intel, even when the chips are the 'same' they move the entire code base up. Just like they did from Sandy to Ivy Bridge.
Why? Because they can.

 

They are probably fiddling with how things are handled to optimise power/performance for the new arch.

 

That makes sense! Didn't know that happened when the move from Sandy to Ivy Bridge happened..

Yup, if they're changing the code base, this would make sense!

 

this is the difference between people like you and me on one side, talking out of our asses half of the time, and the people who are actually "in the know" on the other side like @Meaker@Sager and @Prema

 

I'm not denying that intel like to change things "just because" either but they will be doing that kind of thing for the new arch.

 

Absolutely, I currently have the i5 so upgrading to a kaby lake i7 would be ideal.

 

Hi all!

I'm contemplating a Clevo P751DM3 buy with 120hz screen, i5 6600K and GTX 1070.

I have a question about the quality of the screen as well as how do you find the noise and thermals? I'll be repasting it with Grizzly Kryonaut but I already returned a Clevo p775dm3 with 6700K and 1080gtx due to near 100degree temps in Project cars.. ;/

How do they do in normal use for games? Point is to not be constantly worried about the temps + to not have an absolute jet engine in the room.

Thank y'all for help!

Cheers!

 

The screen has not hit retail yet, under high load the i5 6600k and i7 6700k will be consuming similar amounts of power due to the similar TDP.

 

Power consumption is not an issue.. Just want a healthy running machine. Does that mean 6600k and 6700k get similar temps?

 

6700k will get higher temps due to hyperthreading.

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I fix it for you

 

So what temps/noise are we talking about? I see both of you guys are pro overclockers but I doubt I'll be doing any of this stuff. Just want a steady and powerful system to carry me through my games and some basic things

Sorry to bug the forum with all the questions but I just want a stress free experience..

 

Don't use Kryonaut.. Its a **** paste... Use IC Diamond... Also 6700K will be slightly higher temps due to HT but more future proof IMO!

 

lol, yes, absolutely thx for pointing that out, changed my previous post accordingly

 

Future proofing is not really necessary.. The 6600K is still reasonably faster than mobile CPUs so I should be fine on that end But I will ask about ICD if it's really a much better choice. Thanks!

 

For gaming the I5 is perfectly fine

 

My thoughts exactly I rarely perform intensive tasks aside of gaming and Photoshop and stuff really don't need a monster at the level that I use it.

 

Certainly for overall balance getting a larger SSD or more ram (if you need it) can often work out better than the I7. Of course with this model you can always swap it out later.

 

I was thinking about the samsung 950 pro 512 and some 2666/2800 or 3000 speed ram.. Probably 16gb for now I also think it's smarter to invest in those components rather than risk a flamethrower..

Very nice community around here btw. Great help so far!

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U506-Clevo-P751DM-Notebook-Review.151283.0.html

Actualy I managed to find this.. It's an older model but even with 6600k it seems to do very poorly in thermal management... It's really worrying.

 

well if you repaste it should be much better, i think they used the stock thermal paste in that review which isn't that great. Delidding helps a lot too but is optional and mostly recommended if you do some heavy OCing.

 

i own that system with a 6700k and even at stock clocks, stock voltages, stock paste temps wouldnt pass mid 80s after 20 min occt (max fans, that is). after some extra luv involving a repaste and undervolting it basically runs ice cold at stock clocks ^^ 24/7 clocks for me are 4.6 ghz with dead silent operation during everyday stuff

so yeah, these machines require some extra attention in many cases, but its like an oil change during car maintenance

also, notebookcheck does their thermal testing using furmark AND prime95 at the same time, completely unrealistic scenario that could even damage your hardware!

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Yup, that Prime95 + Furmark test is totally unrealistic and retarded lol..

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Well delidding can be nice if you also want to keep temps down and therefore keep the fan noise down. I delidded my 6700K and temps went down from 90+C down to under 75C (depending on ambient room temps) using Thermal Grizzly Conductonaout LM, and that's before any undervolting. I also found that using the same paste on the GPU chips dropped the temp by around 10C.
It also meant I could then overclock the CPU to 4.6Ghz and keep the temps below 90C. I suspect if my office was cooler my temps would be lower

 

This time I sadly have to admit!

After 8-9 months using Kryonaut it suddenly started pumping out really fast! From 70°C on CPU to the 80-ies and 71°C on GPU to 73°C....

 

But delidding is a complicated and risky procedure that voids the warranty.. I could potentialy try to apply conductonaut on both GPU and CPU but I don't know who does services like this in Poland (where I'm from).

Meh man it all sounds sketchy and I really just want to not stress about a laptop anymore and just enjoy it.

I find it ridiculous that Clevo can't produce a laptop that runs ok out of the box and needs all this care just to really run like a proper product should

Also as I said a laptop that needs to sound like a vacuum cleaner to maintain 80 degrees on cores is just you know.. Disappointing

 

This is from the new Alienware out of the box. with a nice Blue screen in the end
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...16-owners-lounge.797458/page-98#post-10392075


Before


After

 

Haha fair point ! But we have to admit the release of pascal AW is a ****storm and a massive fail.

 

glad u at least got 8-9 months out of it, in my case it started to degrade after two days! *lol* and not only "started", but also "finished", since load temps jumped up by 10-15C on the cpu, completely insane!

ordered myself a 10g pot of GC Extreme yesterday, as a consequence ill be sure to take pictures of my current kryonaut paste job to let you guys see that the paste did not pump out on me and the heatsink is a perfect fit in my case. its more like....the paste itself loses thermal conductivity really fast

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Like I said, my Clevo laptops ran fine out of the box. People who buy Clevo like the power that the desktop parts provide, and if you want power you're going to need to cool it quite well.

Besides, laptops getting hot is NOT new. I've had old MSI laptops that reach 97c at stock clocks on DAY ONE (with presumably new-ish thermal paste), same thing with Dell laptops.

I feel like you're singling out Clevo when higher-than-desired temperatures is not exclusive to Clevo at all. It happens to basically every laptop, except ones that already do a lot of throttling such as Razer laptops (don't get me wrong, I like Razer, but not their laptops).

 

Under normal loads it should run fine out of the box, the playing that people do is to go beyond stock usually.

 

Well... I think I will bite the bullet. I think I'll manage to find somebody to repaste with a LM paste or even delid the CPU but the question is.. 6600K or 6700K?

Purpose of the machine is mostly for gaming.

 

if its gaming ure after the 6600K will be more than sufficient. if your budget allows the 6700K, u might as well go for that

for delidding, u can just order yourself a rockit 88, its cheap!

 

Oh hell no I'm not doing it myself.. Looking for a trustworthy guy in my area. I'm only worried about the temps of the 6700K but with a delid done well it should be fine right?

 

It's still a 4ghz beast in a notebook, it will still get pretty warm

 

Then I stick with the 6600k. I'd rather not stress anymore. Thanks for the tip!

 

Man I'm so torn apart between Clevo P751DM3 1070 6600k and AW17R4 1080GTX 6820HK... I can afford both but I just can't choose...

AW17 would be my choice but it seems it has a faullty screen (3k 120hz panel with those lines and all..) along with heat issues and sodded both CPU and GPU while the Clevo is very 'resistant' to failures with easily replacable components.. although requires major work to keep cool as well (also 600eu cheaper)

I know there is going to be a bias here as I am asking on Clevo forums but yeah.. Any tips?

 

As you've stated, we're all going to be a bit (or more) bias since we are mostly Clevo owners here. With that said, my sentiment is do whatever makes YOU happy. I am a relatively new Clevo owner and I was lucky to buy a powerful monster that was owned and configured by a BGA hating, DTR OC'ing genius.

Clevo's, are a lot like high end custom desktops, whereas you need patience, knowledge and a tiny bit of luck to get them working efficiently (custom desktops are my expertise). Once you get them working well, though, you have a monster that destroys everything in its path. BGA won't get you that but it should "work out of box".

The point is, do you want a laptop that works well now but if/when it develops some issues, you will need to replace it completely or a laptop that *may* require some work out of box but will be an absolute beast when you finish?

 

It seems like you know the benefits of the Clevos so that is very good, and it seems like you know the AW also has issues. It's your decision at the end of the day but I think you know that everyone here would choose the Clevo.

 

"This controller doesn't support device firmware update"

(Evoc 1.05.09 Prema V1.2)

 

Raw GPU power vs cooling/cpu performance and swappable cards.