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Then the Apple-ification of AW will be complete! Buahahaha!!!

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YEES. But Alienware is already the AppleBook in the Windows world (Together with Razer)

 

Do some research on what connection you have in your system and pin count. Then, research on panelook for panels that are roughly the same dimensions and mounting and use the same cable/pin out (or find the compatible cable that can be used with the same type of connector and pin count). Then check back here for whether others have used it or check with your reseller/distributor...

But, they won't stop until they are made on the same hardware line... Then Apple will offer Dell a deal so that they can dominate all the ****ty laptops that pose as high end status symbols!

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More like this?

 

Well, with cuppertino building that flying saucer for a campus, what did you think they were planning!!!

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Apple will definitely raise the quality when they finally take over Alienware I don't mean the internal hardware itself. You can't fix flawed soldered hardware

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6-owners-lounge.797457/page-213#post-10415245

 

Hahaha!!!!

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Nice

First put in this Tripod in the new Aw models!!


Then start your brand new expencive machine Turdbook and test bench it. Dang... Nice temp?


Second bench and you get the nice Blue color. Pretty?


Because 100C isn't a problem!! Within Intel's spec Then Why the blue color?


Have I missed something?

 

So, on a desktop Z170 board, those devices are listed in the same way as well?

 

Haha! Check the spec. Those heat pipes only do 60-65W each, meaning 180-195 watt tops, and not all heatpipes are created equal. With the video card on the same, with low mount pressure, and thinner, underpowered fans with no fin height, I can see immediately where the problem is, Azore!!!

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They should be yes.

 

Hi all,

So I got a 770DM-G from XoticPC awhile ago. I haven't updated a single driver or anything on it. Xotic PC only redirects me to Sager's website for updates, but there are no updates there. Just to make sure I understand the other threads correctly, can I get a simple yes/no for each of the following:

-Ok to flash the most recent Clevo BIOS/EC?
-Ok to try flash the TBT firmware (hoping it works based on my current version of TBT firmware)?
-Ok to update GPU drivers straight from nVidia?

This is my sole computer, so I can't afford it being out of commission for more than a few days and definitely can't afford bricking it. Don't want to void any warranty from Xotic PC (I have the extended 3-year warranty). On the other hand, I do want to have the most up-to-date drivers/firmware. Or, if I'm at risk of bricking or voiding warranties for BIOS/firmware flashing, then is my only option to keep it at factory condition?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Get your drivers straight from Nvidia and only update the firmware if you are having issues.

 

Bummer I know that's the sensible answer, but a part of me did want the newest BIOS, EC, etc.

 

I know the temptation is there to be on the newest but if things are functioning correctly you wont get any new features.

 

Please help me choose between the ff:

1. This unit
980m prema bios delidded cpu with warranty till 2018 gsync screen 6700k cpu (1600 usd)
2. P870 xmg u762
970m sli warranty just till april 6700 cpu but lower price (around 1500 usd)
3. Aw 15 r2
980m 6700hq 16gb ram with included aw amp (1600 usd too)

 

The differences are mainly in size and performance. The 970M sli will win in titles with good SLI support (but loose in ones without) but you could put in a 980 desktop edition or 980M SLI later.

It really depends what you want from the machines.

 

I have read reviews of SLI machines from 7 months ago. They all wanted a single card and wont go back to sli. Microstuttering happens every time. How true is this? And also with the compatibility issues and the tinkering of the settings everytime?

 

If you are not technically minded then go for a single card, the extra tinkering is only really for those that like playing or have no option (eg exceeding the performance of the fastest single card around).

 

So the issues still exist up until now? Okay thank you. I think for that I'd go with the alienware with the included amp.

 

Just be aware that it has a soldered GPU, so if something goes wrong the whole expensive motherboard will need to be replaced.

 

It still comes with the warranty so it would be no issue. It is also extendable.

 

If I remember rightly it can be very expensive to extend after purchase, but if it fits your needs best then fair enough

 

You're giving me second thoughts on this one! Haha no wonder you're from Sager. Are there motherboard problems with Clevo laptops?

 

I just want to make sure you are getting the right system and understand the differences and downsides to each.

There don't tend to be motherboard issues with our systems, no. Both the ones you listed use desktop class CPUs which does make them larger and have less battery life but the higher end cooling and desktop CPU allow them to be great content creation devices.

 

Okay. What can we do with Thunderbolt for now? It is supposed to work like the AW Amp right?

 

Yes, along with displays and anything you might find on USB (but with more bandwidth).

 

So its either the desktop class cpu and sli vs external video card and warranty with no problems to compatibility of games, right?

 

Warranty support is a big thing to consider, if you get a decent warranty with that one as standard then go for that if it will meet your needs.

 

Thank you for not bothering to answer my queries. Well warranty would always be the no.1 priority cause what good is a beast when after 2-3 months the motherboard suddenly had its problems and you've got nothing left to do?

 

Not bothering? Sorry I don't understand.

 

I have too many questions in mind and you dont bother qnswering them all

 

Still waiting for other feedbacks. Thanks

 

Sadly I can't answer the questions directly in your head. I'm still waiting on my psychic upgrade

 

Get Option 1.

The AW is **** and if it breaks like all AW's tend to do and especially when out of warranty, your screwed. Also as a former AW owner, the price for extending warranty after purchase is absurd.. They quote like 200-300 USD a year at least or even more..

Option 2 isn't bad but SLI is just not worth it.. It would be better to have a single GPU to avoid stuttering and also many new games just Don't support SLI..

Also the 970/980M are really old.. Have you looked at newer 1060/70 laptops? A single 1070 GPU laptop performs as well as 980M SLI..


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I guess im taking the aw. Like what youve said, 980m cards are old which is on option 1. Extending warranty here on my country (PH) costs just 175 usd for 2 years. Another thing is that it already has the aw amp where I can insert pascal gpus, or who knows maybe even the titan x? The only cons that I see would be the processor, which is an i7 6700hq. Is that a good reason enough? ,Please help me decide thanks

 

Please,Don't touch the AW Jokebook. Everything of the other two options is a better choice. The phone-tablet processor from Intel... This so-called low entry BGA i7-6700hq is probably the worst trash from Intel ever. Maybe beaten by the equal BGA trash 6300hq, but with not much.

 

The processor is that worse to the point that its better off choosing the desktop counterparts than picking the upgradable gpu? What can be my choice for upgrading the gpu of the clevos?

 

Look into one of the Clevo threads about Gpu upgrades. 980 desktop version - 980M Sli and as well single 1070 if you can get the correct 1070 graphics card. As well see info about fully locked BGA filth http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-uneven-heatsink.797477/page-77#post-10423324
And 7700K is almost on the doorstep. 4.5GHz or higher is a much better choice than a fully locked [email protected] on all 4 cores!!

 

Thanks sir. Still thinking which is better option between 1 or 3. The second option is crossed out because of compatibility. The upgradability option is the determining factor. Yes it may be easy to upgrade or so, but the availability of the cards and its accessibility is not that great. But thanks anw. If it happens that I can't decide maybe i'll just wait for the kabylake processors

 

Choose whatsoever you want from laptops with Skylake or Kaby lake, but stay far away from JokeBook's Good luck

 

Hahahaha so that's what alienwares are called in the notebook world. It really is the Apple of the laptops. Okay sir will do. Thanks!

 

You took almost the words out of my mouth. + Rep

 

Thank you, sir. One more question. Where can I purchase the external gpus available for thunderbolt 3? Ive been looking out on ebay but found nothing.

 

@bloodhawk is the man Or search in the forum. There are already threads for use of the eGPU.
Edit.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-g-gtx1080-tb3-hdk-pe4c-v4-1-m-2-ngff.796773/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/akitio-thunderbolt-3-egpu.795194/

 

The only readily available solution right now is the Razer Core, which IMO is overpriced. But is elegant and kinda works. There is one for sale in the marketplace for $400 right now.

Second solution is repurposing the Akitio Thunder 3 PCIe box. But it's difficult to use it with large high end cards .
In the thread @Papusan linked to I'm using the PCB from the Thunder 3 for my setup and it works great. I have that for sale in the market place for a pretty cheap price right now. And a PSU to go with it. But it's doesn't come with an enclosure, it's not that elegant, unless you an make or re purpose a case.

Other than this , there is the Akitio Node that should be out in the US in a few months , and i think the Powercolor Devil Box should be available for purchase as well.

Hope you find the results in my eGPU thread useful. Ask away if you have any questions.

 

So basically, eGPUs are not that exposed to the market yet. Shall we be expecting them to be released by this year? Are they on par performance with the AW Amp? Some of them are saying (based on the articles) that aw amp has an increased perf because of the dedicated port. How true is this?
Edit: I am currently in the Philippines so I would only rely on shipping for purchases (cause up to now there are 0 products for egpu on the market or no foreign companies selling egpus here) so please provide sites with good shipping rep.

 

Nope not that popular yet. But pretty decent amount of solutions should be out soon.
Also the AW GA is a better performing solution since there is a 20-25% when using Thunderbolt 3. Because of the Thunderbolt to PCH signal conversion.
The AW GA however is directly hooked to the PCH. Same performance can be had by using a m.2 based solution.

 

Is it practicable as of now? So this leaves the only reason why buying the clevo ones is the processor power because the aw is only on 6700hq and the clevos have 6700/k desktop class cpus.. is there a major difference among the two?