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    *** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ProFX, May 18, 2015.

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    Its not as simple as that. You might need a custom BIOS for PCIe hot plugging settings. OR you can jump through a lot of loops and get the drivers running that way.

    It all might come down to the box being used.
     
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    Quick Question, I have a NP9758-G with a 6600k. Is it possible to upgrade to a 7700k with an official BIOS? or can it only be done with say a PREMA BIOS? And yes I know that there is literally like no difference in the performance but just curiosity. Thanks.
     
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    Not on the official BIOS no, the 6700K is the best officially supported chip.
     
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    It is finally done, 4k screen and gtx 1070 mxm a tutorial is coming soon.....

    For those people who thought it wasn’t possible, this laptop is a beast and can support pretty much anything.
     

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    3DMark time spy shows that both the CPU and GPU get roughly 5,000 each. This shows that the 6700k is not being bottlenecked and the laptop has an amazing/equal CPU+GPU combo. The bottleneck is the 4k screen. No power issues either while using 330w power brick.

    Temperatures only reach a max of 70c on the GTX 1070!

    Also just to clarify this laptop is a Clevo P771DM-G not P775DM-G as listed in the benchmark app!
     

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    Here is a geekbench 4 benchmark of the gtx 1070.

    It performs surprisingly well compared to other ones found in clevo laptops.

    It’s almost as good as a gtx 1080 notebook at stock clocks!
     

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    charmander Newbie

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    Hi,

    It's actually great news for me thank you for this great work.

    I have a question. Can 970m gtx drive 4k lcd panel or you bought 1070m gtx as required for this?
     
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    The 970M can output content to 4k through the displayport but it will struggle to game at that resolution.
     
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    Yes this is true, this is the reason I I bought the 4k panel as the gtx 1070 can just about manage 60 fps at 4k on nearly all games I have played. The only game that needed lower texture settings is Assassins Creed Origins.

    Tutorial is coming out today as I have done enough testing on this laptop. 24 hour burn in test on cpu and gpu at the same time, temps reached a max of 75c on the gpu. There is slight power throttle though.

    Also battery life is horrendous now, from a 3 hour battery life on the 970m and 1080p screen to a 45 minute battery life on the gtx 1070 and 4k screen without load!
     
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    The 970m should mostly be considered as a 4k 2d and media card.
     
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    True, it can be used for general photoshop or basic 3d modelling/rendering.
     
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    Spektre Notebook Geek

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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Are you noticing thermal throttling?
     
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    Quite frequently, yes.
     
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    Just installed, Huawei ME936 4G modem in my P750DM-G. Missing drivers on Windows 10. Any one install a WWAN card, how did you get the drivers?
     
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    MKazmer Notebook Consultant

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    The right hinge (facing the screen) on my P750DM-g recently broke when my laptop took a short fall from a chair I set it on while vacuuming. I bumped it and it fell... :eek:

    The metal pin int he hinge appears to be broken. I believe it is part # 6-33-p7501-0R2
    found on page A-5 of the service manual. Can someone please confirm this for me?

    It will be appreciated if someone can also provide info on how to access this part without breaking anything, like small tabs and such.

    Thank you in advance!
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I would speak to your reseller, you should tear it down completely to be sure there is no other damage.
     
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    Thank you for the reply Meaker. Despite my hesitation to do so since I recently repasted everything with Thermal Grizzly Cryonaut, I have since taken it apart, tested and retested everything and affirmed that the only problem is this right hinge, part # 6-33-p7501-0R2. The hinge on the left is still good and strong enough to hold the screen upright, but I don't want to wear it out, so I'd like to replace this sooner than later. I'm hoping that someone here has a broken machine that they are parting out since this part is $40 from the least expensive source I could find. For now I will continue to browse classifieds across the internet to find the part for cheaper, but I may have to pay up for it...
     
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    That's not a terrible price as far as spares go. Also yes it would put a lot of pressure on the other hinge.
     
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    @woodstackz I hope you got my request for the gtx 1070 on ebay.

    Anyway guys, the full upgrade will be posted on a separate thread I will make @sicily428 please add it to your mxm upgrade post.

    Thanks guys for the likes and I hope you enjoy the instructions!
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Just wanted to report back that I paid $52 including shipping for the hinge. I received it, installed it and all is well. However, I changed back to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut from Conductonaut on both the CPU and GPU and idle temps dropped about 4 degrees, while max temps increased about 4 degrees. This I do not understand, but it is what it is.

    3DMark11 score is pretty much the same.
     
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    Liquid metal needs perfect contact to work properly where as thermal paste is more forgiving.
     
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    That would explain it. Despite lapping the IHS when I delidded my 6700k, it still doesn't seem make perfect contact with my heatsink due to imperfections with the heatsink. From what I've read, the heatsinks are hit or miss with these first version DM1 machines. I just managed to get one of the not so perfect ones. My machine is running great now anyhow.
     
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    It can also depend on the IHS which can be a bit convex or concave.
     
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    What are the symptoms of a dead GPU? Or, of a dead motherboard? CPU?

    My system powers up when I press the button, I get the green LED in front, orange as well if it is plugged in. Keyboard back light comes, power button lights up, the fans spin up, I hear the HDD spin up; but no beep at boot, no post, no display. The display does not come on at all, during other "black/blank screen" issues, you'd still see the LED back light behind the display, but the display would be blank, on my system the display does not come on at all. Plugging in a display to HDMI port: the display says no signal.
     
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    Depends on how the parts are dead. A GPU is not really a single component, it's made up of hundreds of small parts.

    Getting life out of the system usually means there is not a direct short at least. Removing the GPU and seeing if behaviour changes, making sure that you have stripped out all non essential parts too is your first step.
     
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    It is most likely the cpu as this same situation happened to me when I had a clevo p750zm, turned out my 4790k processor was not fitted in the socket properly which caused the computer to display a blank screen.

    Usually if there is a gpu issue the fans on the clevo will go full blast after approximately 15 seconds and you MAY experience keyboard numlock light flashing along with caps lock light.

    It is highly likely that it is the cpu, I recommmed taking out the cpu and lightly cleaning the socket as well as the cpu.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Tell me, does the hard drive loading light come on? If not it is defo the cpu.
     
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    Can a DM-G boot without a GPU installed, I had considered removing the GPU and trying. I'll give that a try.

    I've re-seated the CPU about 3-4 times now. The first time there was some resistance in the lever, but i'd removed it and checked out the chip and the contacts in the socket. I'll give it another peep at your suggestion.

    Blips on for a fraction of a second (no where long enough to illustrate actual drive activity) then nothing.

    Funnily enough (or tragically in my case) I just posted elsewhere in the forums if anyone experienced the Spectre update frying their CPU. I think this is the case for me. I had perpetual bluescreen boot loop immediately after accepting the update, had to soft power off, then powered back up into this situation.

    Now I am hoping it is the CPU oddly enough. Preferred of the 3 outcomes.
     
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    Yeah, it is most likely the cpu, maybe the firmware inside it has been corrupted, this does not mean the cpu is fried but it may mean that the firmware embedded into the processor is not allowing the processor to function correctly.

    In this case you should try another processor inside the laptop, even an i3 or i5 processor will boot on that system.
     
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    Oh also yes a clevo can boot without a gpu, it does load into windows, I have done it many times before. The only thing is you will not see anything and the laptop will probably start beeping at you until you turn it off
     
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    This is gold, I'm going to see if my system builder can get an Intel warranty replacement on it. It actually makes a ton of sense for it to be the CPU. You're a saint and a scholar.
     
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    No worries, click the 'reputation' to boost my score, it will be beneficial for me. Thanks.
     
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    The actual firmware inside the chip needs a special rig to program, the microcode gets temporarily loaded at boot from the bios otherwise you could flash a chip once and put it in another system.
     
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    with this model of sager is the hdmi connected to cpu or gpu, I tryed to respond to a question of vr or windows vr and had good results out of mine and was like are those results only from cpu/gpu
    I thought there was something like that config hdmi = cpu/gpu display ports are discrete or 970/980 nvidia
     
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    All DM models are dGPU based so all of ports including DP and HDMI are connected to dGPU. iGPU is not being used.
     
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    Thank you that helped alot, it seemed to good for the on board cpu//gpu. Dont feel so bad telling people that it works with 970 pretty dang good vr performance wise
    Then giving the wrong info and hanging for it later
     
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    The 970M is below the VR "recommended" threshold but it's not a terrible chip for it really, no.
     
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    ^^^^ True true. TX 1060 and up is really where you need to be for VR - 1070 is the sweetspot for consumer VR though a 1060 is very capable.

    Recently, Oculus reduced their minimum recommended spec to GTX 1060 and HTC did the same down to (desktop) GTX 970. The Nvidia recommended spec if independant of the main hardware contenders VIVE and Rift. But @Nose-Bleed - as long as it plays well and you don't get dizzy because of low FPS then all is good!!!

    Also for anyone else reading, remember that the newer P65 and P67 models with GTX 10 series all have a direct connection between Nvidia dGPU and the HDMI (and DP) port, though you can set to iGPU mode this only affects the internal display - meaning they are "VR Ready" via HDMI 100% of the time.
     
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    My old P750DM with 970M could JUST manage most lighter VR games but I had to overclock the balls off it. In the end it was running over 1300mhz core and ~5900mhz memory which put it around the 980M in performance.

    Fortunately for it, it's retired to a nice cool home in a data centre as a remote workstation as I'm sure it wouldn't have been able to hold those clocks for long :)
     
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    I guess I should go back and mention that, I had a really good air cooler and same OC maxed have to benchmark at some point, to compare 1070 but the clocks were up there temp is allways good though
    cant do much about tdp but on the drop it sits 40-50 ish
    do mostly use titan x pascal for it but in system down rebuilds, and any thing else, its like thank god I got this laptop
    "Nvidia dGPU and the HDMI (and DP) port" Oh that new hdmi 4k 60htz thats right open up some bandwith I think thats what they call it. signal anyways
    since intel bailed on the 1151 with the 1151 (300)
    I suppose it will be nearly impossible to get a 1070 to work, I guess modifing really isnt working for laptops
    at least theres almost desktop power
    the max Q seems to sit just behind the 1070 laptop turns it into delema for the ALMOST DESKTOP & VR
     
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    ok wow, impossible to follow your post with zero punctuation. just to clarify: have you upgraded a P75xDM with a 1070?

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    I did just about manage :)

    The laptop is a backup when his main is being rebuilt (which sounds like quite often).

    The max-q does indeed stay fairly close to the full power one.
     
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    Travel its nice, Lets face it any time employment hands you a computer, they may as well give you a hammer a chisel and a rock, so you can type it out like moses, far as work pc's
    try to get to the point, no puctuation, figure everyone can pick up the missing parts
    nope havent but would look forward to it if possible, considering 4k monitors / VR
    take the 970 or 980m and push it beyond 980ti. laptop beast
    has anyone tried it I thought there was some extra wire lead you need for 1070 or was that the 1080, word was the 1080 psu was 3/4 the size of laptop
    desktops are nice too though, and never happy with any results of destop build. constantly changing
    yea, I like to break things too, its great, definate desktop advantage there, break it and fix it
    laptops have to show up and complicate things
     
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    Try and gather your thoughts before posting and separate them out a bit. You are kind of going beyond a little bit difficult to read to need to sit down and do the work you should be doing before posting.
     
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    Hi Guys,
    I have purchased a 775dm3-g from the german MIFCOM company with 6700nonK. I have upgraded to 7700k (unfortunately sold the 6700) but the machine does not boot... I think it is a bios issue... what are the symptoms if the cpu is not supported? The laptop powers on, the fans are spinning but no display... or after 4-5 sec it switches off itself... thx
    ps: and of course it has a standard bios with no features at all.... :(
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    If it doesn't boot up, switch to the working cpu then boot up in bios and read what firmware version used. Or just boot up in Windows and read out mainboard tab (specs for bios) in Cpu-Z.
     
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    He sold the CPU already, unless it has the Prema BIOS on it then it's not compatible.
     
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