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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

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    Pretty sweet temps I would say :bigyes:
     
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    Extremely good temps.

    Im running 85C CPU, ~75C GPU on Phantom Pain all maxxed out, but with CPU core on 4.0... Man, I wish I could do at least 4.2
     
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    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    Yeah I know. I have the special Beowulf edition. Powered by a Deity... ;)
     
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    If you are careful and experienced the film is not required but when you start working in volume you don't take chances.
     
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    Can I upgrade from a 6700 to a 7700 with the base bios on a eurocom x4e2 (p750dm2-g)?

    I ask because I plan to switch so I can watch 4K netflix. Let me know! Thanks!
     
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    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    You will likely have to get the an updated BIOS from Eurocom to support Kaby Lake if you have the original BIOS that came with the machine. You should contact Eurocom customer support for it.
     
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    Is the @Prema bios available for the p775dm3 yet?
     
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    Yes. Just contact our Tech Support and they will flash it remotely for you.

    If you should ever need tech support or warranty service, please understand that I am not a technician, so it would be better to contact our Tech Support Team by phone at 888-666-3418 Extension 3, between 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, by email at [email protected], or by Online Support Ticket at http://www.hidevolution.com/contacts/ (in the department dropdown menu select Zoltan S - Tech Support).

    Please let me know if they don’t resolve your issue.
    .
     
  9. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    But iGPU is disabled in laptops with LGA processors.
     
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    I'm neither an idiot nor experienced in LM matters. So I'd be keen to learn about what type of tape that is and how it is applied...
     
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    Doesn't seem to be much info or reviews around on the p775dm3. Any major issues to be concerned of or thing to be made aaare of? Temps ok on a decent pasted machine with the unified heatsink setup?
     
  12. Xavier2612

    Xavier2612 Notebook Consultant

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    I just repaste GPU and CPU and also delided CPU using IC Diamond 7 . Can someone have a look if this is done ok? or is it too much ? . All cores 4.2 and -150mv
    3dmark 11 CPU arround 75-80C . GPU 78C .
    Thanks for any reply
     

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    The unified heatsink scared off many from trying to conquer this beast. Rightfully so, as the cooling should have been better. With that said, 6700K doesn't require a delid for good temps but a 7700K does require a delid.
     
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    That's a very large undervolt and you're still getting 75ish? Are you getting any throttling on the CPU? Your paste job looks good but you should use LM for the delid.
     
  15. Papusan

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    See this P775DM3-G
     
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    You can try my calibration profile I got using X-Rite i1 Display Pro: 6500K (warm) and 100 lum brightness.

    If someone wants to try a colder and brighter calibration, I can provide 7000K and 125 lums.

    P.S. download and remove .gif extension
     

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    CPU delid . I use only IC Diamond 7 . NO LM at all . I think results are quiet good with undervolt and small Overclock for noob Person Like ME :D. Forgot to mention i use Prema Bios from Prema Partner Dream Machines. If i can drop temps even lower I'm happy to hear some more advice from here :).
    I have done some more test without undervolt and undervolt no more then 100mv
    I use only Firestrike to do the test
    Full Stock no underovlt Auto Fan
    Full Stock no undervolt Max Fan
    OC too 4.4 -100mv GPU+150+200 Auto Fan
    OC too 4.4 -100mv GPU+150+200 Max Fan
    I have attached 4 pictures. At the moment I'm very happy with the OC 4.4 -100mv
     

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    Maybe a U3 mod
     
  19. Xavier2612

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    I order one just now :
    CoolerMaster NotePal U3 and also I'm going to use 3x80mm fans or 2x140mm with power adapter.
    Btw can i see your modded U3 please? i may do similar to yours :)
    Thanks!
     
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    Guys, I am thinking of upgrading to 64Gb RAM. How critical is it that the second 32Gb pair is not purchased as a bundle? Since it is a bit of a problem finding a complete set of 64Gb@3000, I am going to get the same sticks I bought previously.

    Also, can anyone recommend 500Gb+ SSD with a good performance and price ratio? M2 SSD of that capacity would quickly exceed 300GBP, but they would have a higher speed rate.
    I am very stingy to use OS drive (960 PRO) to host VMs too.

    I want to make space for my most used VMs. My current Crucial can only store 2 VMs at a time, whilst the rest are archived on HDD, where I have to transfer from one side to another every now and then.
     
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    It is paramount that one orders from a reseller/system integrator who knows of problems with the heatsink design and willing to work around them.
     
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    Any clevo I'd buy would be from HID, personally. That's where the last few I've had came from and am 100% happy with their service.
     
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    Well I screwed something up apparently. Been playing with my new Oculus Rift on my P775DM3 and it throttles like a mother... we're talking 50%

    I'm running a delidded 6700k with a -200mv undervolt.
     
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    That is too much undervolt...try bringing it to -100mV and see how it works.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Sager NP9152 - GTX1070 - default clock speeds:

    So I noticed while gaming the GPU gets to 87° c is this normal? The fans kick on like crazy.
     
  26. Georgel

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    That is not normal.

    You;re keepiing it on the table or on a cooler? Is there enough space behind for the fans to eject the air? What are your ambient temps? It is placed on something solid that leaves enough space for air intake to take place ?
     
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    Laptop is on a metal stand, plenty of room all around. Ambient temp is 69°F
    This machine is not overclocked just using afterburner to check temperature.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Oh, hat is the 15.6 version. Do you also have 7700K inside?

    Also, I recommend using HWinfo for temps. Sees a bit more reliable than afterburner.
     
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    Yeah this has the 7700K
     
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    Hm... 7700K runs a bit hotter than 6700K so that might have a play in this, also the size, 15.6" might be a reason for that temp. What are you doing and how much is it used to get that temps?

    Try installing HWiNFO, it is free. This software gives a much more detailed report on what is going on.

    Are your fans on MAX ? FN + 1 ?
     
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    @Perth0s consider delidding the 7700k and applying CLU, then doing a reapplication of IC Diamond in the X pattern to the GPU and CPU IHS. You can also check flatness of the heatsink. Give the CPU a -100mV undervolt, too. This keeps my temps much lower on my P750DM2.

    As a side note I hate it when people just post the Sager model because I don't know what they are. Wish just people posted the Clevo model which everyone knows.
     
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    I'm curious; this profile is for the 1.1 screen, I have a 1.0 screen and I've seen 1.2 screens too.
    Does that last digit matter at all for anything? I can't tell what's better or worse about either version...
     
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    Maybe tell @Perth0s what cpu-gpu temp he should expect with properly fixed cooling. As you have the 15.6 inches model.
     
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    To further reiterate the point, I have been just informed by my reseller that even though CPU is running between 90C and 100C,
    'system is not overheating as such, but it's unlikely to sustain the turbo frequency at these temps, although fortunately the CPU did not throttle and maintained the 4.2GHz according to testing results.'

    Fortunately (!) Took me a while to calm myself down. But the point remains, this chassis can only handle a delidded 7700K so unless you're willing to do that yourself, or buy it from someone who would do it for you, I would advise you to look into other models.
     
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    @Perth0s
    Heaven settings:
    [​IMG]
    Heaven temps:
    [​IMG]

    This is P750DM2 with Prema's fantastic BIOS mod, no overclock, -100mV on vcore, delid + CLU, and IC Diamond on IHS + GPU. Fans on automatic
     
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    Regarding color profiles; does anyone have a .icm color profile for the WQHD screen I could borrow?
     
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    Actually no chassis will handle a 7700K unless you do some very very very geek stuff.
    You need all kinds of wizard skills, you need delid preferably with liquid metal too, making sure there is proper contact with the coolers, maybe modding the cooler and finally to tune the CPU with a proper undervolt.
    The last section "tune the CPU" was actually what made me add a performance tab to my app, because i feel a client should not have to be a CPU Tuning wizard, so in some days the only thing they need to do is apply a profile which will be the one with whom we will test all our units before shipping.
     
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    And that is why I suggest people to have a look at your website before buying from anywhere else. You are taking initiative and going an extra mile to make sure your customers have the best machine possible. Heck that utility alone puts you ahead of many other European resellers I know.
     
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    Funnily enough a chip that produces 3 times the heat of the mobile ones takes some effort to keep under control :p
     
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    Trust me there are plenty of great resellers out there.
    Im also a big fan of the HID crew to be honest, and ive seen European resellers also starting to worry about their builds and also doing delids and such.
    I think that for a long time people didnt even knew how to check if the laptop was performing good or not, now if everyone gets demanding it will push everyone to offer a top service and finally PROPERLY TEST THE UNITS BEFORE SHIPPING, a temperature test takes 20m tops.
     
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    Yes, I meant European resellers. As good as US reseller are, they are not in Blighty or across the channel. I think you guys, XMG, and CEG are the only EU resellers who are offering delidd (lm etc.). There was DVC in UK but they closed their shop recently.

     
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    I think intel should solder all their K series chips personally to solve the issue even if they charge a little more for them.
     
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    If that would solve the temp problems, yes.
     
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    Well if you look at the new AMD chips delidding them and running bare die contact is a minimal difference compared to the lid with solder.
     
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    Only 1C degrees difference from what I have seen.
     
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    Yes, really the point where the risk is just not worth it to anyone.
     
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    Fella's little info request:
    I'm looking to get me a WQHD screen from eBay, just as an extra because I like to swap. I can find plenty of B173QTN01.0 screens but read somewhere that there are both G-Sync and non G-Sync screens out there.
    How can I differentiate between the two?
     
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    Hi all, does the P775DM3 support external display with 5K resolution (51220*2880)? I am wondering whether it is supported as the laptop has Displayport 1.3 ports which uses HBR3.
     
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    Sadly, I can't say whether it does, but it does support 1440P well in my experience. Doesn't seem to struggle one bit.

    didn't the standard itself offer support for 4K - 60 fps in P775?
     
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    The display ports match the capabilities of the desktop parts.
     
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