*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

Yeah the 5 or 7 mw/K work just fine. Slightly softer pads give more leeway when fitting but degrade faster.

 

I'm considering a Delid of my 6700k in my p775dm3. I'm using TS to undervolt 150mhz on core and cache. Still when gaming under any settings the fan noise is ridiculous despite temps never hitting over 80. Wondering peoples opinions on doing this?

 

When you say ridiculous what are you comparing it to?

 

The fa noise even at absolute max is okay for me. Not okay if they blow all the time, but still they're not that bad.

 

I posted up these ones a while ago, it's for the P751DM2-G, but should be the same for the P750DM2-G
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/kaby-lake-bios-updates-p775dm3-g-p751dm2-g.800128/

These are the standard ones direct from Clevo, but remember you use them at your own risk

 

Louder than the game I'm playing or the tv. Played mass effect andromeda earlier and the fans were almost on full throughout. The profiles are so bad on ccc. Noticing a fair difference in individual core temps almost 10 degrees sometimes. Gpu has never been above 74 even on benchmarking. Just tired of a laptop so loud

 

Mine seem to just run all the time. No respite even on load screens they roar to life. It was repasted at Xmas with gelid extreme

 

I see.

Hm...

CCC fans are a bit too much - best advice is lower CPU to 4.0 GHz and see if this still happens. Also, you can get an U3 cooler, it helps eep the temps low enough for fans to not engage so much.

You will need full fans while gaming for the GPU though - if you play with settings high enough. You don't want it frying up...

 

I think I'll strip it down and use liquid metal paste used a test pad for contact on heatsink and it was good so with a delid and the switch to liquid metal hopefully I'll see an improvement. I'll check my bios later noticing a lot of updates for other owners might make a slightly difference. I've already clocked the cpu down to 4ghz last night. Undervolt is still 150 on core and cache with throttles. I use a lapdesk atm that has nice built in speakers and a cushioned underside but only one fan might be worth a new cooler since the intakes are on the bottom and could be pulling in much cooler air?

 

I also genuinely believe half of the games coming out atm are so poorly setup that for those of us owning the machines we get unrealistic demands on our chips that just causes hell with temps and fans.

Oh btw any recommendations for a laptop cooler to fit with heavy 17" laptop are very welcome

 

The only laptop cooler worth its salt is a modded U3+. 5V fans don't push enough air to contribute more than maybe 1C delta tops.

 

Modded how? Noticed most of them are 80mm fans on the u3 coolers. Are you suggesting upgrading them to 120mm?

 

You will find similar U3 MODS like mine in the linked thread or search up other places in the forum. Only viable options is running 3x 120mm high performance 12v fans. Other options is same as throwing your hard earned money down the toilet!! Or do it simple... Use 2 bottle caps.

 

what sort of power adapter you use to runs fans. Thanks

 

You can use whatever 12-15v adapter. I use a very old 15.6v laptop adapter I had lying.

 

How much noise would those 120mm 12v fans give out? Are quiet running fans an option?

 

The modded U3 I purchased from @Mr. Fox runs quiet and it has a dial fan controller. I am thinking about adding one more fan to the setup (currently there is three). I not sure what fans they are, they might be 120mm.

 

Use a fan controller. Turn on max fan speed if needed, or turn down the fan speed for low hardware usage.

I'm 100% sure the U3 mod you purchased from @Mr. Fox is 3X 120mm. yoo could change to better 120mm fans if you want more fan Powa But 3 is the numbers

 

I don't think that the modded fans are nowhere near as loud as clevo ones. Not even 50%

 

This a good example of useful information. Not to paint to the edge. Noted.

 

The aquaero 6 LT is a great choice as a controller, with an external molex brick you are covered.

 

I've got a P775DM3 (or 2, not sure... was sold as a 2 but HWMONITOR identifies as a P775DM3(-G). While I was once a DIY PC enthusiast the last several years have been limited to assembly of commodity desktop PCs. I'm mildly leery about tinkering with laptops as they are so tightly integrated and so sensitive to heat issues.

So what I'm wondering is - how badly can I muck up the access to the RAM slots under the keyboard? Midway through trying to install the 4th SODIMM (1 came with the laptop, I bought 3 more and installed 2 of them under the component bay) I realised it required removal of the heatsink.

Am I right in thinking if I remove it I will need to re-apply thermal paste? Other than that is there anything particularly finicky about this?

 

Hi.
I need help!
After receiving back my P775DM3 from service from XMG (exchange of 1080 GPU and a delidded K7700) I see that the BIOS is on 1.06.04 but the EC according to the BIOS information is still on 1.05.06.
Can I flash this myself? Is there any specific procedure or order how to flash?
I guess my current problem (e.g. CPU set himself to 0.8GHZ all the time until I reset the BIOS) is related to the old EC.
Please advice!
Thanks!

 

Whenever I remove a heatsink, I always reapply new paste but I always have new paste on hand. I think you get away from reusing the same paste if you're careful.

 

Do you have XTU and CCC installed? The latest version of CCC (I don't recommend CCC at all) contains XTU, which can cause the problem you are having. Also if try to OC too much, XTU will default to 0.8Mhz.

 

Yes I tried to undervolt with XTU, So this is causing it? How else can I undervolt? CCC is installed but I dont use the overclock features via this program.
And what to do with the "old" EC flash?

 

Yes, since you are using XTU and CCC installs certain XTU features, you essentially have two versions of XTU. That is your conflict right there. If you want to use both XTU and CCC, I highly recommend getting the software Obsidian Tool provided in @John@OBSIDIAN-PC signature. It installs a version of CCC without XTU.

If you want to safely undervolt, use Throttlestop. I only use throttlestop on my DTR's.

EDIT: As for the "old EC", ask XMG to provide you with the latest EC. I don't use any of those BIOS/EC's.

 

Thanks, I used the Obisidan tool, but installed the XTU manually. I will deinstall the XTU.

I have the flash files, can I just flash them? I thought EC before BIOS?

 

You should not have to remove the main CPU/GPU heat sink to install RAM sticks. The 2 on the underside should be accessible by just removing the main cover, and the keyboard is removed by removing just the 2 screws holding the keyboard in place from the underside then popping it out by using something stiff to push it out through one of the holes (I use a plastic cotton bud stick with the bud removed from one end)

 

Hm okay. I was following this manual which said on Page 2-15, Step 2 to remove the CPU heatsink (and refers to page 2-12).

I had actually missed this Step 2 originally and spent a while unsuccessfully trying to get the keyboard off without removing the heatsink, before going back to the page and seeing that. At that point I balked and held off.

However if you've been able to do so then I'll have another crack now. If you don't hear back from me I've successfully bricked my machine.

Depending on how frisky I feel, might fallback on trying this..

 

Uninstall XTU.
Uninstall Control Center.
Reboot.
Turn off the unit.
Press FN+D+Power.
Install Control Center using my app.
Reboot.
In my app there´s a "CPU" tab.
With that you will be able to use ThrottleStop and apply a pre-made profile for your CPU (unless we havent released one for your CPU yet).
That should give you a good starting profile with undervolt

 

Thanks a lot John, I was using your app, but didn't see the thing with Throttlestop. Very impressive tool, not only TS also your app.
I am now on -150 underclocking and it seem fine so far with fan set to overclock.
Thanks to everyone for the help!

 

Is there a way to control the fans speed?, CC is ugly, simple and a very limited tool.

Regards.

 

I believe you can set custom fan profiles in CCC.


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I finally got a stable 5.0 OC on my 7700k with a +163 core/+500 memory OC on the 1080. Going any higher on the GPU is very difficult. I may need a new heatsink.

 

my gpu seems to hate any overclock at all even moderate increases

 

The problem is the unified heatsink Clevo decided to use in the P775DM3. It is my understanding, the old version (P775DM1) did have separate heatsinks for the CPU/GPU. While the new heatsink did allow Clevo to use their new GPU design, it gimped the machine hardcore.

It took me several days to investigate which settings would give me a stable 5.0Ghz with a modest OC applied to the GPU. In order to increase the OC on the GPU, I'm going to look into new thermal pads and possibly a new heatsink. I'm determined to get it working though...

 

Hey guys . I installed newer CCC using obsidian tool, it automatically uninstalled the one I had when i got the notebook shipped ( 1 week ago ) and everything is working fine I'm just wondering since I've been reading about this XTU how do I know if it's installed or not ? ThAnks in advance


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The newer version of CCC uses XTU functionality, but the Obsidian Tool installs a version without it. With that freedom, you can use Throttlestop if you want to undervolt/overclock. Unfortunately, even if the CCC with the XTU functionality is uninstalled, you might still be infested with the XTU crap. Check to see if you see any XTU running in the Services.

 

How else can I reset the bios? even if I press FN+D and the reset was doen with the default values -I see in the bios that the CPU is set to 45-44-44-44 and as far as I remember it should be 45-44-43-42. I am worried that other seetings are also changed. i tried to reset but it still stays like this. Same goes if I load the default settings in the bios itself.
Could it be that throttlestop changed this?

 

45-44-44-44 is default.

 

ahhhhh damn... shame one me . THANKS. I thought this is the reason that the machine reboots suddenly when i start any game. seems somethign is messed up.

 

45-44-44-44 are the correct stock settings.

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Does the power brick light go off when it happens?

 

I have seen that the power led goes off when my 1080 was damaged, what does it mean? My PC is now workign fine after i simply unplugged and reconnected the power suplly, suddenly no crash, weird. I woudnt have needed to reinstall everything.

 

Just read the notebookcheck review of P751DM2-G, and it seems that the new vBIOS for GTX1070 they are using scores way better than mine. Anyone have the vBIOS 86.04.56.00.1D for GTX1070? You can use GPU-Z to make a backup. Thanks in advance!

 

I'm considering buying P775DM3-G. I need a laptop for work and my 7 year old W870CU is still working (although battery is dead) so it could fulfill that role, even though its not light to carry daily. The P775DM3-G would then be used as main laptop and backup if W870CU dies unexpectedly and can be repaired but not immediately.

The configuration I'm looking at is 1920x1080 IPS, Core i7-7700, 16GB RAM, GeForce GTX1070. I like 4x SO-DIMM sockets, keyboard on P775DM3-G, but dislike LAN port on side and lack of a DVD drive. The cooling system seems to be better than MSI GT72 and unlike on MSI there should be no warranty seal (I can upgrade discs and RAM as I need). The Core i7-7700K costs only 60 EUR more (30 more at Obsidian), but the 91W TDP worry me in a laptop, unless it can be underclocked when needed.

For 120 EUR more than P775DM3-G there is P870KM1-G with the same configuration. But 3 fans changing RPM frequently worry me, the W870CU was bad enough with 2 of them. It seems it makes more sense for somebody who wants SLI in the future (as the best way to upgrade GPU performance), but I'm quite happy even with ATI 5870 in my old W870CU. It has support for 1 more SSD, 2xLAN port (again on side), same lack of DVD drive. It also has 3840×2160 display for 100 EUR more (so 220 EUR more than P775DM3-G), but to me it seems 4K displays are not good for 17" screens. They make more sense in larger screens. I fear everything would be too tiny and I would use it all the time in 1920x1080 anyway. I also doubt that even SLI GPUs can give good performance on 3840×2160.

As keyboard I would like to have the tall enter key occupying 2 rows, not the slim wide one occupying 2 columns. Is there some picture showing keyboard layouts for different languages? I don't care if the language is UK, US, DE as long as I like the layout.

For EU Clevo resellers, I looked at some German ones (MySN, kiebel, nexoc, notebookguru) and Obsidian (Portugal) and I like Obsidian most. Obsidian also offer their custom bios, no HDD and no RAM option (so I can install whatever I want).

Or just forget about performance laptops and just get a Mini-ITX system for half the price with the same performance and much better upgradability, although not portable enough if W870CU dies. I'm not sure if performance laptops have future.

 

A proper assembled unit will leave you without a worry in the temperature department. Each of our clients get the report prior to shipping so they can say "Wow, i love you guys" and we can put the dark sun glasses and say "Oh yeah, feel the power"... Just ask @kamilr or any other of our clients.

But.... replying to your last sentence, no doubt in my mind, if you don´t need a laptop, DONT BUY IT, laptops are for people who need mobility and that´s it.
If you don´t need mobility get a desktop.

 

I like it that you're honest dude.

Laptops aren't for those who don't need to move the thing around and this should be kept in mind when making a purchase - otherwise disappointment might ensure.

 

I confirm. @John@OBSIDIAN-PC and his team are all legends.

I will be doing a detailed review of my clevo experience next week.

This includes my failed attempt at p670 from scan.co.uk and experience I have had since finding Obsidian-PC.

All I'm gonna say is this:

If you have any questions or doubts drop John a private message. He will definitely help you out with your decision.

They also sell mini atx and all sort of systems perhaps even something to suit you personally.