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Hey everyone. Has the Creators update to windows broken anything? On my computer G-sync has to be disabled now and I get a black screen then the fans go to full blast when running a game after about 4 or 5 mins but the sound is still going and i can still talk on mumble.

I haven't had any of these issues since the update even with the voltages and under clocking i have been running.

 

nVIDIA GeForce Hotfix Driver v381.78

This is GeForce Hot Fix driver version 381.78 that addresses the following:

-Fixes Windows 10 Creators Update booting to a black screen on certain notebooks

 

Installed still black screen and fan profile change about 10 mins into gaming. Uninstalled the Obsidian control center to see what happens.

 

Try installing it again by removing the previous driver using DDU by running it and selecting Run in Safe mode, make sure you remove any password PIN/Password otherwise you will be locked in safe mode forever

then install the driver again, choose custom, check the Clean Install box and uncheck the 3D Vision Controller Driver since you don't have a 3D screen

 

Won't even install for me:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...tman-3-0-lounge.794538/page-353#post-10505941

 

hey guys, what would you recommend to overclock my gtx 1070 .. msi afterburner or the clevo utility built within CCC? I asked my customer support and they said the ccc utility but i'm unsure... also if anyone has been doing any testing, what are good values that I could try in the CCC gpu overclocking for 1. core 2. memory 3. fan offset?
thank you!

 

The CCC utility should be fine, I've tried afterburner and precision as well and they don't seem to make much of a difference.

Personally, I gave up on OCing my 1070 because mine just power throttles like there's no tomorrow.


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what values did you try? how was it power throttling? I noticed from the CCC utility that there's a limit for the core number to 300.. there's not this limit on afterburner..

 

The most I got out of it, stable, was around +200 core, but if you open up GPUz and look the the throttle graph when under load you just see the graph pop up and down and up and down, alway PWR.

From what I understand Nvidia has pascal locked down hard, so I don't think our lord and savior Prema can do much about it either.


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like this ?

https://gyazo.com/015c8ae60c287f14305f39d8027e033a

i see no difference in the graphic wether i overclock it wether i leave it at default.. the clocks stay around a fixed number i mean it variates but about 10-20 mhz at most.. is that throttling? if yes why would i get it at default? how many mhz was it losing in your throttle ? ty!

 

I would like to compare my temps to other normal owner who have P775DM3 6700K with 1080 GTX, i wonder to know if i can drop temps a bit more . Why? i want run fans as low as can beacuse using auto profile in games is a bit noisy but when i use oc profile they running lower then automatic . Should be like that? My cpu run quiet good but my GTX 1080 while gaming session 2-3 h reach 80C. Factory Thermal pads are good (factory) or i can replace them better brand better quality to lower temps or add thermal pad in extra place on GPU to make it cooler?
Thanks

 

In case anybody else ever runs into this problem - the culprit seems to be the P775DM3's AHCI implementation.

Here is how I fixed it:
- Changed the UEFI setting from AHCI to RAID mode (called Intel RST Premium or something like that).
- Did a clean install of Windows 10 v.1607 (Anniversary Update) via USB stick (had to load the Intel RST RAID driver manually during setup to be able to see and use the 950 Pro).
- Installed the Creators Update (also via USB).
- Switched back to AHCI.
- Booted into safe mode.
- Patiently waited for the good ol' "boot device" BSOD.
- Surprisingly, everything went well and Windows installed AHCI and NVMe drivers automatically.
- Got cocky and switched back and forth between AHCI and RAID modes several times to make sure this isn't a one-way street - worked like a charm.

Probably going back to 1607 anyway (because CU has "alpha" written all over it), but at least I won't have to do a clean install (or clone disks back and forth) every time a future major Windows update drops.

 

On perfcap (performance cap) reason it just constantly throughs pwr throttle.

Like I said earlier, I can get a bit more out of it by OCing but the main problem here is the power limit,this thing could be recking desktop 1070s if it weren't for the power cap.


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I did some research but that is not considered throttling.. at least what i see in my case.. because the clock mhz constantly bounces between the boost and the base .. but it never goes under the base clock.. it would be throttling if it went under the base speed.. right? from what i understand this is the way it works on mobile gtx 1070? i don't see that happening on youtube videos done with gtx 1070 desktop. so far i overloccked to +200 core +490 mhz memory

 

You are not alone, but at least with Premas Bios the throttling isn't as strong as before, right now i'm just using +350mhz on memory and gpu stays at about 1.6ghz, tbh i don't even care right now anymore, everything works and yeah nV limited the card hard.

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Sharing it here because the value of the mod applies to the P7 product line as well.

 

Wont install for me either, it just boots to a "black screen and says restoring previous version of windows" no error, nothing. Any Sager/Clevo peeps have a comment on this? Sager NP9152/Clevo P775DM2

 

There could be something else installed that causes it to fail. It could be something like Clevo Control Center, Samsung Magician, or even a driver that is not playing nice.

Try this... image your current OS so you can easily go back to it. Macrium Reflect Free works great for this.

Instead of trying to "update" or "upgrade" created a bootable USB from ISO, diskpart the OS drive and do a clean install. I bet it will work fine if you do it that way. It's more work, but the end result is almost always cleaner and often more stable than an in-place upgrade.

 

With the P775DM3 and a 7700k with all 4 cores at 4.8Ghz, I am seeing a max of around 68c in AIDA64 and a max of 75-77c during my Cinebench R15 runs. My avg score for the Cinebench has been right at 1050. Looks similar to the results you posted @Mr. Fox . I guess this is where I will stop and live a happy life with this beautiful laptop!

Edit: This is with NO notebook cooler. my U3 is arriving tomorrow

 

The hard mod of the shunt resistors would help that but it's not for those who care about their warranty!

 

i overlocked at+190 core and +490 memory and i get +9 fps gain in games as average fps.. so far so good

 

That's really good, but be careful not to cook the GPU for only +9 FPS in gaming. Remember even if the core is not too hot that other parts of the GPU with no temperature sensor might be boiling. (There is no way to tell.)

 

Does anyone know why my Laptop freezes if I don't disable the XTU feature in the Prema bios? If it is enabled, my laptop will literally freeze as soon as I try to open any application on my desktop. As soon as I disable it, no freeze at all. I have been doing all my undervolting in the bios because of this so it isn't a huge issue, but I find it extremely odd.

 

You have delid, no?

 

Yes it is delided.

 

So what can I do to make sure to not fry it?


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It's amazing to see how the people with 6700K and 7700K have their CPUs oced with no problems on the temps. I can't get 200MHz in my 6700K because the hell tend to explode inside my laptop.
With the clock at stock value, my temps while i'm playing get over 75º in CPU and GPU, with the fans in automatic mode.
Same as above but with the fans at full speed, the temps are over 66º CPU and 70-72º GPU.

With the clock at 4.2GHz while i'm playing, the CPU go up to +90º and the GPU get over 80º with the fan in automatic mode, but if i put it at full speed, the temps of the CPU still yet over 88º or above... and have the CPU delidded...

 

What's your paste? Are you undervolted?

 

Undervolted -170.9mV at 4.0 and -122mV at 4.2, i use TG Kyronaut.

 

I'd expect at least some of the results are from conductive paste and shims, as well as possibly silicon lottery cpus. You could also have just had some bad binning luck.

 

but from what i knew,80 degrees under some intensive games like battlefield 1 is totally ok? that's my normal temp under heavy load and it 's stable like that for hours.. i have the fans on overclock mode

 

Yeap that is good.

 

@Apolonius As stated above. I know you asked about my CPU being delided. Mine is also a silicone lottery binned cpu so it will naturally run cooler at lower clock speeds.

 

how you get those low temps? i would like to know!

mine in games like BF1 CPU arround 65-70C and GPU 75-80 but to get those temps i have to use Coolermaster U3 Mod (3 fans 120mm). Without U3 my gpu is arround 82-85C and CPU 70-75....:/

 

What gpu you got ?


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His sig lists the 1080.

 

ah sorry ^.^ , it was not showing on tapatalk

anyway I have a little issue ( i think).. i've been finding in my windows logs event this error that happens quite often during the day.. I already tried to ask intel support on their forums but they could just not tell me anything..
could anybody check if they have something like this in their logs? I have no idea what it is and i have already all my chipset and power management up to date ( using obsidian's utility for clevo)

the error is the following: ERROR ioc AGENT

xml code of the error

- <Event xmlns=" http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name=" IOCAgent" />
<EventID Qualifiers=" 0">0</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime=" 2017-04-21T21:07:37.938921900Z" />
<EventRecordID>58</EventRecordID>
<Channel>IOCAgentLog</Channel>
<Computer>MOSTRO-albi</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
- <EventData>
<Data>2017-04-21 23:07:37,937 [7] ERROR ProviderManager.SecurepayBcaProvisioner - Exception during BCA-SGX provisioning System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException (0x80004005): Eccezione lanciata da un componente esterno. in Intel.Pabe.Factor.SgxProvider.AbortProvision(SgxProvider* , UInt32 ) in BCAXInterface.SgxProvider.Provision(String provisionUrl, String providerUrl) in ProviderManager.SecurepayBcaProvisioner.<>c__DisplayClass16_0.<StartProvisioningAsync>b__0()</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

Ty for any kind help.. i have no idea what it is and if i should worry or not :/

 

Found this on another forum:

 

@Xavier2612 Your temps are definitely good, especially under an intense game like that!

Here are my idle temps at 4.8 on all cores:


and after 5 minutes of AIDA64


@saturnotaku

 

but what is he talking about about i mean what is an imei driver? in specific what should i do considering mine is clevo and not asus?

 

Pop "imei driver" into google and the first result will fill you in on it.

All intel motherboards share a base set of drivers that do not vary between make.

 

oh it's the intel management service.. yeah i did try a different version of that.. i used the one that i get from obisdian's app and then i also tried with one that auto updates with windows... and same result.. i don't know any other source from which i could get it-- but if the problem is that that obisidian's app makes me download... then all people should have that problem.. which is not the case.. i don't know.. :/

edit. i'm on the intel download list for mei drivers but i have no idea which one i should download for my laptop https://downloadcenter.intel.com/search?keyword=intel+management+driver also i checked the version that obsidian's app installs on my pc and it says : 11.7.0.1002.. which i can't even find on that intel download page.. how is that possible?

 

Delidded with liquid metal between the die and IHS? If you replace it with Kryonaut you're not going to see much improvement if at all.

 

Was delidded by the store where i purchased so, i don't know what kind of paste they used between die and HIS. I know that the external paste used is TG Kyronaut.

Regards.

 

Did that, Still black screen then fan profile change, but the system is still running. I can hear sound and chat on mumble.... super weird.

 

not sure if mine looks fine . Automatic fan profile. I run aida64 for 24 min .

 

Looks good so far. Now run a full stress test - CPU, GPU, RAM.


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Best way to avoid frying a GPU is to run it stock for playing games and only overclock it for benching. A 9 FPS increase is only meaningful if the framerate is already very low without it. In other words, going from 30 to 39 is huge. Going from 60 to 69 or 120 to 129 will be essentially of no meaningful impact to your gaming experience even though the GPU is being stressed to a much greater degree. But, still keep an eye on core temps either way.

If you find that overclocking is necessary to achieve a framerate high enough for smooth gameplay with intelligent graphics quality settings that means the GPU is too weak to be useful and an upgrade to something more potent is in order. With a 1070 that should not be the case. It should handle anything you want to throw at it as long as the game graphics quality setting are not jacked up to something silly and unrealistic.

 

I don't need overlock to run it smoother .. I just liked to see the fps to go higher.. thanks for the advice I'll do as you say


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80C is safe, but a Pascal GPU will not perform at full potential with a stock vBIOS due to NVIDIA's retarded approach to firmware. The core clocks will be throttled at that temperature, but it is unavoidable with a stock vBIOS.

Even with the core clocks throttled a little bit the gameplay should still be decent enough to not present a problem.