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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Xavier2612

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    all cores 4.2 Ghz -150mv . 15 minutes Test
    Here it is full test with Auto Profile Fan and with cooler master u3 mod (3x120mm fans)
    Not sure if temps are too high....
     

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    That's fine for a stress test.
     
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    The only way to keep temps 100% under 90c with the full stress test going is to drop all the cores down to 4.4Ghz with a -160mv core offset.

    Edit: This is stable also btw, ran it for 20 minutes earlier. Will post a screenshot tonight when I'm back from running errands.
     
  4. Xavier2612

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    Mine won't even work with -160mv core offsett . Will freeze very quick.
    to get stable 4.4 Ghz with not bad temps i can only do -100mv anything over -100mv = system unstable
     
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    Overclock the graphics and same time lower the graphic settings could be useful at the end of the graphics cards life. Follow temp is smart regardless if you OC or not.
     
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    Is there anybody who has experience with delidding the cpu. Does the cooling system still match after that?
     
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    When you de-lid you remove the IHS replace the heat-paste inside then replace the IHS so it should be exactly the same fit as before
     
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    Ok thanks. So I need to relid it afterwards. Any chance to adjust the cooling system somehow?
    Did you do it with liquid metal or compound? And how many Kelvin less temperature can I expect from that?
     
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    You should always use LM between the IHS and die, or there's basically no point. You can expect ~10C under load for SKL and ~15-20 for KBL.
     
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    Nvidia driver and a windows patch came out and still I get a black screen into about 5 mins of gaming, but can still use mumble and hear sound. I have no idea what the deal is. I have reset all the voltages on CPU, ran the driver remover in safe mode and did a fresh install for the nvidia driver..... I might have to do a fresh install..
     
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    If you don't replace the glue the height of the CPU is slightly reduced.
     
  12. Sir_H4N5

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    ok thanks.
    So I might replace the original IHS with a replaced copper one?
    Like that.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. tijgert

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    oooookaaayyyy.... and where do I buy this?
     
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    I can buy it here on the internet. One benefit of living in China ;-)
     
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    so annoying not being able to ship things like this to UK. If someone stocked these in the UK they'd sell fast
     
  16. Sir_H4N5

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    I could bring some and sell them on ebay if more people are interested...
     
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    If they let you specify the height you could ask for an extra 0.5mm.
     
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  18. tijgert

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    So not on AliExpress then?

    color me interested, but I'm in Europe myself...

    Is that to compensate for the lack of adhesive?

    If one would make one of those, where would find the dimensions?
     
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    Your own lid will do :)
     
  20. Xavier2612

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    Hi , does anyone upgraded 1080p screen to 1440p 120 mhz in clevo p775DM3? without sending it to reseller? I'm thinking to do it by myself as My reseller asked 3x times more then screen cost :).
    I'll appreciate for any help/ links where i can get screen and cable. Thanks
     
  21. tijgert

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    I'm sure it would, but so many things aren't neccesary but plain interesting.
    Either way, I ordered me one with a 5.0 7700K @1.3v underway, see how low this puppy can go! (Or high)
     
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    I've done a few upgrades to UHD screens.
    In the case of those you need the screen and a different interface cable, then you pretty much have to disassemble the laptop to fit the new cable.
    Replacing the screen itself is easy, it's the cable that's the harder part.
     
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    How does UHD screen works when gaming? does it have ghosting like basic FHD 60 Mhz? Also can UHD be OC over 60 mhz? Does UHD need also different cable?
    Thanks
     
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    It has similar pixel response times if slightly slower and overclocking only nets a couple of Hz.
     
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    Why is this comp so much more expensive than the p670hs?
     
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    It uses a desktop CPU and socket GPU along with having a larger heatsink.
     
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    I'm not looking to be a grammar Nazi, buuuut... the screen refresh rate is in Hz, not MHz or mhz. I see this coming back in every post of yours and in your sig. just trying to help, that's all.

    I saw some cables on AliExpress that might work, but you'd have to look into that yourself. The screen is easy enough to find.

    I myself love the UHD screen but am secretly hoping one day that WQHD will be without striping so I can get that one again... as well. No news on that front, is there?
     
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    I'd be interested
     
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    I'd be more interested to learn about the price first.
     
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    Once you go above 1080p I'm pretty sure the cable is the same for all higher res screens. You should be able to get this from your laptop supplier.

    I don't really use mine for gaming so not sure how well it works
     
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    WQHD and UHD (or QFHD I believe it's called) both use the same cable, I can confirm that. Only FHD uses the FHD cable.
     
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    Yes it's a question of the number of lanes required to push greater than 1080p.
     
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    Is ok lol . You right . For some reason i always was typing Mhz instead of Hz . I'll change that next time :)
     
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    At the risk of saying something silly, what is this 'FASer' program that keeps popping up?
    It's showing me a dark blue screen with the LAN IP address of the laptop.
    What does it do?

    Also:
    Being a betatester I got the Prema bios. Now I read that there's a v2 out while I'm still on v1.
    I am having some issues with the memory command rate being stuck at 2, unable to change it. The voltage offset is also stuck at -100mV.

    Anybody know if any of this is addressed? Prema seems a little busy.
    I thought the Obsidian tool could update any Prema bioses, but I guess that's only older versions maybe.
     
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    Tested today GC Extreme vs Grizzly conductonaut on my GPU GTX 1080 and i didn't notice temps different at all.... i had 1-2C higher temp on Grizzly..... What wrong i've done then? i'm pretty sure there was enough LM on GPU die and heatsink.. :/ .
     
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    Not the big difference, if used on graphics vs. the processor. And do not forget the amazing Clevo's heatsink lottery. You may not have won the jackpot :vbbiggrin:
     
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    No idea.

    These laptops won't run 1T for command rate afaik. Don't bother trying to change it. The voltage offset being stuck at -100mV I think is Clevo's doing, but you should be able to change this?

    Prema is really busy yes. The OBSIDIAN tool is fantastic but it cannot update Prema BIOSes. OBSIDIAN is not a Prema Partner (hopefully there is a "yet" here).
     
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    Read my signature :p
    But the OBSIDIAN TOOLS is not designed to update non-client BIOS, that would be havoc worldwide as the app is used from China to all across America and Europe...
    The last thing i would want is people bricking the units by flashing them...
     
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    Oh I know buying from you can give NBR clients access to the Prema mod, but you're still not allowed to sell the units with them right? And thus even for OBSIDIAN customers it cannot be used to install the Prema mod?

    If I'm wrong and you're a fully fledged Prema partner tell me now so I can rejoice :D
     
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    In my experience, Grizzly Kryonaut was the worst thermal paste I've used!
     
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    It has been slightly better than IC diamond for me.
     
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    For me too
     
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    I did test gc Gelid Extreme vs ice diamond and I have lower temps about 2-3c using Gelid Extreme. IC diamond 7 after removing it from gpu die scratch it and left some marks on it. I'll stay with gc Gelid Extreme for now.
     
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    Ok, it feels a little better that 1T cannot be achieved at all, at least it's not a bios limitation. Though I'd like to eek out every single MB/sec I can :D (running @3200Mhz now, but alas with 4x8GB G.Skill and that limits me to XMP2. XMP1 with Cas16 does not work on 4 sticks).

    Obviously, I understand. It's not that I'm trying to get a free ride or anything, I already have the Prema bios. I just thought/hoped perhaps your tool could update the Prema bios from any machine and wouldn't
    have an Obsidian check in it. This only because Prema is a busy man and I'd hate to bother him every time an update is released.

    Ow... ehm.. what should I use then? I finally accepted that Conductonaut between the IHS and the heatsink is not the best idea and would go for Kryonaut TIM instead as it is supposed to be the best regular TIM... I need a good solution or else I'll try LM afterall.. And why is Kryonaut so bad for you?
     
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    For a heatsink that makes a good fit/contact with the CPU. Liquid Ultra, if it doesn't, then IC Diamond
     
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    I've got Phobya LM, Kryonaut and Conductonaut on stock, no CLLU available at this time. Even ICD I'd have to order first. Besides, CLLU has reports of drying out... which is weird that metal can dry out, but still.
    I guess I'm going to have to find a way to gauge the contact. Preferably without taking the entire system apart and lifting up the main board.
     
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    Uhhh... no

    @Papusan
     
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    A few have reported that Liquid Ultra can dry out. It all depends on how good the fit is between IHS/Die and heatsink. I haven't seen the problem, but you should not deny that this can-could happen. FYI Silicon Lottery still use CLLU. If they mean this could be a problem, I think they already had switch to another brand Liquid metal long time ago.
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    Well, I can in Windows using either Throttlestop or the Clevo tool (Clevo tool seems to work much better, instant voltage drop).
    But I cannot change it in the bios. A soon as I reboot, it's back to -100mV.
    Is that on the stock bios as well or just on Prema's? I read he would address that issue in an update (possibly v2.. anybody have v2 that can attest to this?)
    The thing is that at high OC the system won't make it into Windows for me to negate the -100mV bump down back to zero.
    I read people here touching 5GHz... lest they be golden chips they must somehow get passed that forced voltage.
     
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    V2 might fix it, but I don't want to speak for Prema. He did mention that stuck -100mV to me before, though. It's 100% a Clevo thing.

    However, for my 5GHz run, I did it all in throttlestop. I just set the static voltage (you must set both core and cache to work) and bumped the multipliers; my BIOS settings are for 4.4GHz at a much lower voltage.
     
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