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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

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  1. crusher88

    crusher88 Notebook Consultant

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    that's why i wonder if maybe the middle fan should not be pushed a bit more .. further down.. not perfectly in a row with the others 2
     
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    With great surprise today after a long session i'm pretty sure i caught my GPU for the first time ever throttling every now and then due to temperature.. ( damn summer) i was on the division and i would notice like once every 3-4 minutes a stutter.. i checked temp and from its usual 69-70 i was at 73-74.. i had no time to check on the mhz to actually check if it was throttling but i kinda have the eye to recognize that. How is that possible though for a temperature still so low? I had to activate fans full load ( fn + 1) and temps lowered again by those 2-3 degrees.. i really need to add a super cooling pad
     
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    How much did the speed go down?
     
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    i had no time to monitor what was going on because i was with other players so i had to keep gaming but it was just stutters .. random.. that disappeared when i pumped out fans to full power..
     
  5. Xavier2612

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    Hi, have little problem to run 144 hz on my monitor Acer Predator GN246HLBbid [1ms, 144Hz] (VGA,HDMI,DVI) unfortunately does not have mini display port:/
    i want to run it at 144 hz with my clevo but i ordered (i think) wrong cable https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rankie-Pla...95117600&sr=8-2&keywords=dvi+mini+displayport and only runs at 60 hz .
    Is there any better cable mini display port => DVI with will work 144 hz ?
     
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    Hi, I'm having a problem running multiple monitors with my p751dm2-g with a 1070 gpu/and latest win10 and drivers.

    When using more than two displays (including the internal) I get a horizontal glitch/line occasionally on the internal or any of the other monitors/projectors that are connected. It only happens when using software or games that use the GPU.

    I've made a recording when using furmark, the glitch is visible around 0:02.


    I've checked several forums, tried changing vsync/gsync/power settings in the Nvidia panel, reinstalling drivers, change monitors refresh rates, cabling etc., but that didn't help. Maybe any of you have a clue what could be going on or what else I could try?
     
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  7. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Don't use Furmark!!!!!!!!
     
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    After trying a few different drivers version 376.20 seems to be stable so far (also the recommended version from my supplier). It probably makes sense to use the recommended drivers (and not the latest) stability wise.

    @Georgel Luckily I didn't use furmark longer then a minute (I just read the horror stories). Thanks!
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    yep, its always best to check the forums here for the latest stable gpu drivers ;)

    Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
     
  10. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Please take care with that software! There's been many who fired their GPU with Furmark.
     
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    It can happen if the 2d clocks are having issues and as you found that's usually driver related.
     
  12. Xavier2612

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    Can anyone share temps under game sessions? I'm asking about 6700k/7700k with GTX 1080 without any cooling pad. Does every one have arround 80 or more on GPU?
     
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    Under what clocks and loads?
     
  14. Xavier2612

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    Stock clocks
     
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    Any game in particular? I play a few games at ultra and stay in 70s but other games I have hit 90 all at stock clocks.

    My cpu on the other hand i have had to under clock and under volt but still hit 102c in games at times.

    I bought this for work as I work on a render engine and it is an amazing machine, it truly works as well as my desktop but the temps are killer and I can't open it too much due to it belonging to company.

    I don't have a sig yet but I have sager 775 with 7700k, 1080, 64 ram, 1tb nvme and 2 1tb ssd.

    I wish it had better cooling but otherwise this is my best laptop ever.

    I had a p650 from sager before and had to drop it due to overheating issues sadly I moved in to even worse ones. This laptop stays on when overheating at least, the old one would just black screen or blue screen constantly under load.
     
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    That's Why for My rig they suggested to stay on 7700 and gtx 1070.. just temp .. especially in the summer.. they just hit hard .. right now at around 70-72 max GPU and 84-86 max CPU but this winter it was 8 degrees lower -.-


    Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
     
  17. Georgel

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    You sound lucky tho! Romania can go up to 40-50C in Summer, it sometimes makes one wish they could stop feeling that heat! I'm not even sure if the monitor is supposed to be turned on at this amiental weather, most of my devices are out of their recommended working conditions...
     
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    I didn't have much choice I needed 1080 to keep up with my main desktop. I go between 1080, 1080ti, and titan xp on my main desktop depending on what I am working on. I needed my laptop to have nearly the same performance to work on the road. Currently for work frame rate is almost identical but it wouldn't be with 1070 so fight heat I will.
     
  19. crusher88

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    idk what use you do but 1070 and 1080 in games are pretty much the same more or less, unless you want to do vr and that stuff. anyway i'm sure you can help the heat with a super cooling pad or things like that
     
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    I test a render engine for military simulators so my job wanted me to have the card we recommend for customers. I do have lower cards and find I lose 1 to 2 ms in draw time with them which is fine because it's well below the 16.7ms threshold but when push comes to shove the1080 will shine over the 1070.

    I am truly amazed at the power of this laptop as we work in 4k and vr. It has no issue keeping up with anything I throw at it other than running hot. As you said a nice cooling pad helps along with a slight undervolt.

    It truly is a desktop replacement. I fear the high temps will shorten it's life but by then it will be obsolete and getting replaced anyhow.

    So back to the original any game in particular? I play gta v max everything and stay in 70s on gpu, 90s on gpu.

    I just downloaded tanki and set everything to ultra and gpu crossed 80. Cpu crossed 100 so I pulled it back to max.
     
  21. crusher88

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    well i play mostly super high end games and if you want a comparison to my spec i play at stock mhz

    bf1
    ghost recon wildlands
    the division
    guild wars 2 ( this can be very cpu killing in some moments)

    on these ones gpu is around 70 , max 22.
    cpu would peak to 90 but since i added some vent i lowered the peak to 86 and so cpu is around 80-84
    my room temp is 26 degrees ( important factor to consider, when it was 18-19 degrees as i stated cpu's temp were way lower)..
    once my room temp reaches 30-31, i suspect these temp to go slighty up.. but we'll see..
     
  22. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Now I have left this Old Liquid Ultra test prosject on my fireplace shelf for almost 3 weeks. With varying temp in home. No change (no downgrading of the quality) This 3 year old Liquid Ultra is just as good as when I painted it 3 weeks ago. I wiped off some of the Liquid metal. Very easy to wipe of Liqud Ultra, and very easy to brush it out again.
    [​IMG]

    I brushed out the old Liquid Ultra in the red circle. Very easy doing this. No change in quality. See also how clean it is after one stroke with cloth rag. Damn, this is a 3 years old CLLU who wasn't storage very good home the 3 years I have it :) Hope You all undestand what I meant :eek:
    upload_2017-5-27_1-5-48.png

    @Mr. Fox @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @bloodhawk @Phoenix @TBoneSan @iunlock @Mobius 1
     
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    It will also depend on the humidity. If you are using your fireplace often, then good chance the humidity is low in that area.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I live in a rain HELL. Norway have high humidity with a lot of changes from good to bad. A lot of changes every day. Aka Open window, Later fire up fireplace. And some days no fire. Only eletricity oven.
     
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    Ahhh, then the only other reason could be that the CLU quality has dropped over the last 2 years.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Could be. I don't know, but this 3 years old Liquid metal works as intended. Remember I haven't storage this syringe very well this 3 years. + the caps on syringe wasn't put on very well either.
     
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  27. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I think they traded recipes with Conductonaut. I am using that now and it works exactly the same except that it is thicker than the last 5 or 6 tubes of Liquid Ultra I have purchased. The opposite used to be true. Liquid Ultra was thicker. But, not any more. I don't know what Coollaboratory changed, or why, but it was not a very intelligent move on their part. I am not going to buy Liquid Ultra any more. I've wasted about $100 on it. That is a real shame, too. It used to be outstanding. I have one of the big $50 tubes of Conductonaut now and I am having good results with it.
     
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    Maybe Dell or HP purchased Coollaboratory so they could mess up the fantastic product as they did Alienware and VoodooPC, respectively.
     
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    Could be :D Because they need it heavely due the TRIPOD MESS But we all know DELL... They ruin everything they touch!!
     
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    I have noticed some consistency changes between batches of LU.
     
  31. Niaphim

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    I suppose it is fine for a 1080, especially in summer, although I have the similar worries: under the most heavy loads my 1080 goes up to 90 and my 6700k spikes up to 98 with ~28C ambient. I am a bit concerned about those tbh, or are they normal? The CPU is undervolted (-140) and not delidded.
     
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    Undervolt them :) gpu and cpu and it will run fresh
     
  33. Niaphim

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    Actually, undervolting the GPU does weird results for me: it can maintain higher frequency but the temperature still reaches the same high value (~90-92). So it means, i'm still around the temperature ceiling, it is just that I suppress throttling. It looks like the GPU is generating most of the heat (which is logical as it has higher TDP), because just CPU alone wont go above 80 during stress tests.
     
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    Yes given an infinite frequency but defined power limit, scaling and stability still being good then reducing voltages would increase clocks.
     
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    A bit late, but forgot I asked about this here.
    Turned out to be a defective cpu and covered by waranty :)
     
  36. estens

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    What software do you use to undervolt gpu?
    Cpu is already delidded and undervolted :)
     
  37. Niaphim

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    I'm using XTU for CPU and MSI Afterburner for GPU. Don't know if there is much difference between different software.
     
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    Are you using xtu to undervolt gpu?
    I am using it to undervolt cpu, didn't know it could undervolt gpu aswell.
    Will try it out later ;p
     
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    Oh, my bad, I read is as CPU. I use MSI Afterburner for GPU, you can't undervolt GPU with XTU as far as I know. Edited my previous post as well to avoid confusion.
     
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    Thx.
    Only tried inspector myself, but somehow the undervolt didn't stick there. Hopefully. I have bettrr luck with afterburner
     
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    Access the voltage/frequency curve in MSI afterburner and work from there to adjust it.
     
  42. estens

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    I must be doing something wrong then, don`t have any voltage control in afterburner :/
    I use the old skin, but this is how afterburner looks to me..
    [​IMG]
     
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    try "Ctrl + F" ;)
     
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    I would advise reading up on some pascal tweaking guides to get a good idea of what is going on too.
     
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    Is there a voltage to clock chart for the I7 7700k or is it trial and error per chip?

    This is my first laptop that I have needed to play with clocks to keep it cool and am having some struggles with blue screens.

    I have had pretty good luck at 42 and -144mv but I don't want to hurt my chip by messing with things I am unfamiliar with. At that speed and voltage I stay around 90c under heavy load which is high but still much better than the 102 I was seeing at "default" (45, 44, 44, 44, -100mv)

    I would like to find the lowest voltage I can get away with and still be stable. I have just been using trial and error but figured it was worth asking for help from the pros! :)
     
  46. estens

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    thx :D that helped xD


    Have a special one in mind?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Not really, you get pages of results popping into google and they might all have different nuggets of info.
     
  48. estens

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    I see :)
    Guess I will be reading some guides tomorrow ;)
     
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    Good plan, it will help get your head around what is going on.
     
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    Stock vbios ?
    On my 1070 stock vbios, impossible to touch voltage with MSI Afterburner. no options at all.
     
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