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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You never get direct offset control.
     
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    estens Notebook Consultant

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    Ctrl+f and you can control voltage in correlation to clockspeed
     
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    Wonder if anybody's seen this problem--

    I just got a P750DM2-G (Sky X4E2 specifically) and it's great, but for some reason when I raise the brightness to 100%, it only stays bright for a second and then drops down to basically to the lowest brightness (while still showing as 100%). At 99%, this doesn't happen. Adaptive brightness or whatever it's called is not on. Any possible ideas for solutions?
     
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    Have a look at the power settings and see if its auto adjusting your brightness
     
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    Nope, as far as I can tell, auto brightness is off for battery and plugged in.
     
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    Try updating your Clevo control centre and BIOS/Firmware if that does not help.
     
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    dylosaur Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks-- I'm looking at the website here: http://www.clevo.com/clevo_down.asp?lang=en

    But it lists three different 'Control Center AP' driver things for my model. Am I just looking at the one with the file name 'Control' or all of them?

    Also, that one (with the file name control.zip) is 5.0001.0.90, whereas when I hover over my control center it reads as 5.0001.1.17. Wouldn't that be newer?
     
  8. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    You have the latest version I think.
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    It could be retarded GeFarts drivers. Try running DDU to remove all of your display drivers, then install a new one from NGREEDIA. Don't let Windows Update install it if you are using Windows 10. Before removing it, go into Services.msc and disable Windows Update service.
     
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    Xavier2612 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi , i want try other thermal paste on clevo 6700k and GPU . I already tried IC7, Gelid Extreme , any other thermal paste are better? except LM? Thanks
     
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    slim shady Notebook Enthusiast

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    Kryonaut.
     
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    Knight666 Notebook Consultant

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    If your heatsink is warped: IC Diamond
    If your heatsink is fine (yet): Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
     
  13. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    theres Phobya and Grizzly Kryonout which are known to be good
     
  14. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Could the NVidia driver really do that? Its retarded...
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Last month there was a crazy sale for the F5 Tornado, this month, starting tomorrow I have it for the X4E2.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Has repasting the CPU / GPU any effect? Got the P775DM2(-G) (that was CPU-Z says lol) and running at max 80°C while gaming on the CPU (undervolt by -150mV cach+core, Stock clocks, 6700K). Fan Profile to OC.

    How to find out if the heatsink is warped?

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Look at the core contact patterns and see if they are even on both the GPU core and CPU IHS.
     
  18. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    on skylake and kabylake, absolutely !

    About 25-35C temps less. Which means maybe 15-20% more performance if your tying to overclock based on temps or such.

    I know for the GPU an extra 15C headroom means you can easily add a 10% OC. I never really bother going past that because I set it to be permanent on my devices and never look back.
     
  19. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    To check if the contact is being done properly do a smal drop of thermal paste in the center, bolt the cooler, and then remove it, look at the paste and check if it is well spread, you can share a photo and we will tell you.

    Also, for anyone with this model, if the contact is not enough you can add a thin copper shim, delidding and liquid metal will also help a lot.
    If you can disable XTU service in the BIOS, DO IT, not sure if your bios is capable of that.
    Fine tune your CPU (undervolt + OC) and then try some degree of UV+OC on the GPU....
    You will get a kick ass beast and ZERO throttle.
     
  20. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    6700K should be fine, but seems the 7700K are like 1.5mm thinner. and need shim.
     
  21. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    I never, ever, ever thought the day would come, but...

    I'm actually considering buying a P750DM2 from HIDEvolution.

    MXM and the LGA 1151 socket (which is apparently going to be supported by Intel for a couple more years) makes this laptop really attractive, and I also like the 15" size.

    I'm considering buying this, barebones, and purchasing SSDs and HDDs off Amazon/Newegg. Prema Mod, pimp the whole thing up. OC the GPU, undervolt and mildly OC the 7700K CPU. What say you guys?
     
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    Bro, do you even need 7700K and OC? And will you need this OC performance? I can tell you something since I'm working with renders.

    1) You will never use more than 60% power of 6700K/7700K meanwhile gaming, and after OC same... It's just ain't humanly possible. I never* saw my 6700K sweat at 4.2 (not even talking about 4.5GHz)... And I'm playing all AA titles (for at least campaign), RTS (CoH2, DoW3) and MMO's (WoW etc).
    You will only benefit from it in benchmarks... Yay empty numbers and wasted money - but this is my opinion.

    After all 9XX <=> 10XX compatbility issues MXM standard is dead to me. So you don't have any guarantee that newer gen will work inside barebone... Warranty is still 2-3 years average on Clevo barebones (unless retarded US standards).
    Consider this carefully.
    You don't need it - don't take it. "Ego" isn't best friend when making a decision :p
    Consider GT62 or P650 series in my humble opinion. GT62 has totally superior speakers and overall better quality and at least 9999999 times better keyboard. Man I hate this keyboard in P7XX and P8XX series (it's the same keyboard in every barebone).
     
  23. Nirosh B

    Nirosh B Newbie

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    My brother brought a laptop from PCspecialist last dec,
    Chassis & Display Octane Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
    Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-6700k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache
    Memory (RAM) 16GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 - 6.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1, G-SYNC
    1st Hard Disk NOT REQUIRED
    M.2 SSD Drive 512GB SAMSUNG SM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3200MB/R, 1700MB/W)
    DVD/BLU-RAY Drive NOT REQUIRED
    Memory Card Reader Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
    Power Supply 1 x 230W AC Adaptor
    Power Cable 2 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
    Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
    with windows 10 OS.

    affter using 06 months,came up an error when boot up the laptop ,"Reboot and select proper media or insert bootable device,and press a key." so i went to bios and in the boot device section it shows UEFI IP4 Killer PCIE Network controller / UEFI IP6 Killer PCIE Network controller

    and i set up bios to restore and restart few times,and ttry to reinstall Fresh windows copy ,using a flash drive and on the menu it didn't appears SSD Drive,after few restart it suddenly appears the SSD Drive so,what i did ,fully formated the SSD Drive and install fresh copy,and shut down..

    Today when i switched on the laptop the same error ; "Reboot and select proper media or insert bootable device,and press a key." ..apears again.

    any clue what's went wrong here with my laptop
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Intel will come with socket LGA 1151 v2. If yoo want next gen Intel, wait for Clevo's next models. 7700K is the last gen for LGA 1151
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Doesn't it just warms us to know that they are changing the sockets for no reason, just so we need to buy new hardware. You know, that type of warmth that burns one's soul when we can only watch as they do this...
     
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    If this is a consolation for you... Same ****y for desktops and laptops with Intel LGA. But a Hell lot worse if yoo go for BGA!!:cool:
     
  27. Ionising_Radiation

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    Or maybe AMD AM4. Supposed to be supported until at least 2020, that's a solid 3 years of upgrades...
     
  28. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    If BIOS looses settings (due to a reset or empty CMOS battery) it resets them to defaults. In return you will have to again set 'OS' to 'W8+' and UEFI to enabled, otherwise it will search for a Legacy Windows installation and not find the one which is present on your drive.
     
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    Just here to say that I ordered on monday a P775DM3-G with the following specs: 6700k, nvidia 1080, 16ddr 2400mhz, no disks. Being an upgrade of my previous P377SM-A I'll use its SSD's and eventually will be buying M.2 SSD's :)
    Didn't went to the P800 due to problems in gaming due to SLI and it would be a waste of money in my personal opinion. Such being said, I'll roam around more often :D
    Any tips for when I receive it?
     
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    See if everything is ok. Then Bench and look after what max temp you get on Cpu/Gpu. And congrats on new machine :)
     
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    As soon as I receive it I'll post a few tests so you guys can help me with it and check if it is fine :)
    CPU shouldn't need undervolt from factory or it does? I chose to buy the 6700k instead of the 7700k because it's basically the same stuff and 6 series runs cooler
     
  32. woodzstack

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    Yeah, I wish they'd just make them compatible, I bet theres little to no reason other than they want to sell more hardware, to do so.

    it's less overvolted generally, being a 6700K and the substrate that it is built on, the cpu itself, is much thicker and hardier, so you do not A- need shimming, and B it can handle more abuse anyways, and C has better thermals and is more efficient from my testing mainly due to poor support for a rushed 7700K/Kabylake rebrand
     
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    It isn't enough with only selling the processor. They want the whole package!! Remember Intel get around 40$ on top for every chipset they manage to push on the MB manufacturers. Every penny counts. Milking to last drop.
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Yeah make us spend thousands so they can have a few pennies, that makes me wanna barf.
     
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    Thank you very much @John@OBSIDIAN-PC, @woodzstack, @Meaker@Sager.

    Actually I own the P751DM2-G don't know if that makes any difference because of the warped heatsink.
    Thinking about getting the IC Diamond 7, Arctic MX-2/MX-4. Does it make a big difference? Not speaking of delidding just for replacing the factory paste...

    Am I right, that I have to remove screw 1 - 8 inorder to pull up the heatsink? (Image attached, small numbers on the label next to the screws)

    Thanks in advance
     

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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Yes, all 8 screws, and the heatsink shouldn't be warped, so much as not making proper contact if using kabylake.

    The better thermal pastes can make as much as 5-10C difference on perfect paste jobs, from my experience, the standard half-fast job OEMs do with ICD7 - you get usually 20-35C better temps repasting it with the best options out there.
    The variance is the fault of the OEMs that ship these out pasted like jerks, maybe not all do it, but some with no names mentioned in particular.

    It's always best to redo these yourself, the only benifit I see to ICD7 is if done right should last you 2 years. However, if performance is your goal, redo it every 6 months to a year with something much better, and avoid ICD7, it scratches the surfaces too, which is NOT good, because it then needs paste to fill in the microscopic gaps it creates itself.
     
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    so how to fix it,in more additional test,
    i thought i should try with another new hard disk ,and i brought a 1 TB,so after that few restart clickes,i can able to boot,after that ,delete all partitions in SSD Drive ,this time instead of installing into the SSD Drive, i've install into 1st Hard Disk and partitioned it and install fresh windows 10 OS .it's all went good until i switch on the laptop today,after 8 hrs.same error showing again.

    So is it error with laptop
     
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    Guys i am coming from an alienware 15 r3 and decided to give clevo a Chance, since my aw is pretty overheating (lm repaste done etc... but with more than 34c outside it gets too hot)
    I think i would order the i7 7700k with 1070. its mainly for Gaming purpose since i have no interest in OC or benchmarking.
    My Main concern is that the 7700k will overheat also... but there is another option: the 7700t with only 35w tdp.
    For better cooling i would delid the CPU and got another question:
    Is it possible to just delid and dont put back on the heatspreader?
    Thx for ur answers :)
     
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    I had same situation but i was owner of AW 15 R3 and Clevo 775 6700k 1080 , all what i can say that if you delid cpu it will give you big drop of temps. Mine AW 15 R3 7820hk was running at 85c+ on 4.2 Ghz . My Clevo 4.5 Ghz and never reach 80c . If i use stock clocks no more then 65c on Cpu . If you after performance with good temps (after couple mods) then go for CLEVO :)
     
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    And do i Need to put on the heatspreader again after delid or is it possible to use the heatsink directly on the die?
     
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    Did my first repaste with Kryonaut now on my P751DM2-G.

    specs:
    i7 6700K: -160mV / Stock clock
    GTX 1070: Stock
    Fanprofile: Overclock

    On the 3DMark Timespy test, I now reach a max of 70C on the CPU and a max of 59C on the GPU.


    Seems like the temperatures of the GPU dropped a little whereas the CPU nearly stayed the same as before the repaste. Did the dot method on the GPU and the cross method on the CPU.
    By looking at the old thermal paste on the cpu and heatsink, it looked like it was well spread on both of them, but I still belive that there is still kind of a pressure issue on the CPU? What do you think, are these temps okay?

    Thank you very much.
     
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    We offer delidded CPU option in all of our laptops with 7700K CPUs. Just request this when placing the order.
     
  43. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    what do you mean by pressure issue ? It's a 6700K so it should fit fine. The 7700K need to be shimmed.
    Your temps are fine, the 6700K and 7700K can run at like 100C and still be okay.
     
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    What does this mean: "the 7700k needs Ton bei shimmed"? Do i have to put a shim between the heatspreader and cpu-die for proper contact?
     
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    :bigyes: Because the height of IHS on Kaby is a bit lower vs. Skylake. A shim is needed. Or buy Bitspower IHS for Skylake.
     
  46. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    to be shimmed to make it thicker to have it make proper contact with the heatsink
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes the Skylake IHS from bitspower is the cleanest solution.
     
  48. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    The height is lower because the chip is thinner, not because the IHS is thinner.

    So putting a bitspower IHS on it, your really just wasting your money and getting the same situation again.
     
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    Stock Skylake IHS vs. Bitspower Skylake IHS :oops:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yep, making the copper plate of the IHS thicker means you don't need a shim eliminating the two extra thermal interfaces (pure copper will always transmit heat better than IHS -> Paste -> Shim -> Paste -> Heatsink.
     
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