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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Well I eat my words partially, I thought the bitspower Skylake IHS was same height as regular Skylake IHS, and they were just selling it to Kabylake owners. I literally asked them this 2 months ago, maybe they didn't understand or I worded it poorly.

    So the bitspower IHS sounds perfect then - if you do not have to use a copper shim, then might be able to improved a few degree's, I think I will pick a few up then.

    Thanks !

    @Papusan lol, thanks.

    do you know if it's copper that is plated or just chromium or aluminium or what ?

    I've said it before, it does look like it was heavily machines and has many grooves to smooth out though. Bet it can get a perfect mirror on it easily though too.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I believe nickel plated copper, just to a shiny finish compared to the Intel IHS.
     
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  3. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    I'm going to pick one up then, they were cheap a few months back, but I honestly thought it was identical to the Skylake one.

    I have an F5 to test soon, if I can get it by then and maybe test this Phobya paste too, should have something more constructive to add to this thread. Feels like it's been a while , haha
     
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  4. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You're welcome bruh :vbthumbsup: What would happen if Bitspower's IHS had been aluminium, and yoo used Liquid metal?:biggrin:
    upload_2017-6-19_1-33-48.png
     
  5. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Silly man, everyone knows it would heatup and transport you back to the future like the Delorian because of chemical flux capacitor reactor !!!
     
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  6. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    [​IMG]
    interesting find o Twitter for the 7740K.

    We just need a similar graph for the 6700K and 7700K in the F5...
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Just a note the kabylake IHS is identical to the original, make sure you do order the skylake version.
     
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  8. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    so yeah it is the silicon chip the CPU is made of thats thinner, also why I tell people do not delid it with a cheap tool.

    Swear we had a guy who had a 15$ tool he bought on ebay and he showed us before he attempted it, and most of us were warning him of danger, but we didn't expect to see what happened next - the silicon the chip was on was all crumpled and destroyed - I think someone else managed to pull off the delid, but still damaged the pcb substrate silicon wtvr its called.

    I've been worried the rockit delidder might even damage the Kabylakes if your not careful, however a Skylake cpu - thing is a beast !
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yes the package the chip is mounted on is thinner and more fragile.
     
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    Hi guys, was looking for a bit advice on this laptop. So I am in the UK and either going to order an AW 17r4 QHD 1070 or purchase the P775 from Obsidian PC with 1080, i7K, QHD 120hz etc..
    I really can't decide between the two :S
    The only reason I lean towards AW is it runs out of the box great and the customer service is efficient.
    How much tweaking does the P775 require to get good temps and not a jet taking off sound from the fans? Longevity wise will it last longer than AW as the gpu is mxm and desktop cpu?
    Cheers
     
  11. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    AW is it runs out of the box great? :no:And yoo will find more if you search. + it's BGA.
    Rather opt for Obsidian PC and ask for Clevo with decent socket hardware. And he will tveak your machine + give you proper support. RUN!!
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Dont think so, its a tiny bit different in dimensions but not thinner for sure.

    PCB and Substrate are not thinner. :\
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Whoops that was skylake :)
     
  14. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Pretty convenient and quick solution!

    Oh yes, are there updates to the prema Bios out there? Asking mostly because Obsidian shows my version as 1.6.05 PM and shows updates available to 1.6.09 and I was curious if you added new features to the Bios?
     
  15. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Done :D
    Now you have working + & - voltage offsets in BIOS on your P775DM3, no more automatic and enforced undervolt as we ripped out Clevo's overrides, your CPU code is up to date and Intel's ME backdoor closed among some layout and other changes here and there...
     
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  16. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thank you very much!! :D

    Now to configure it since I forgot how what was done last time... :oops:

    @Mr. Fox 's videos will surely come in handy for properly configuring the BIOS!
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wanted to ask this - compared to the older BIOS, are the new fan curves more sensitive? The temps are pretty low, ~under 70C for the most part, but the fans spin up a bit more than with the 1.6.05, curious if I messed up the settings or if the fan curves changed
     
  18. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    They are bumped up a notch to adjust to play alongside the removed forced undervolt...you can just set CCC to Entertainment mode if you want them to slowdown or set manual FAN curves.
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thank you for your answer! :D

    Guess I'll have to get used to it - better safe than sorry when it comes to fan curves!

    CCC is... not installed so far... It is absolutely safe to install with Prema Bios? Like, it doesn't leave anything after uninstall?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    NP
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Is there any way to make the fans stay a bit more silent? Kinda how like they used to stay silent if the clocks were under 4.0 GHz ?

    I don't need any OC and have some negative voltage offset, temps are 45 - 50 C, but the fans spin pretty fast, even though there is nothing going on

    The system runs very smooth, nothing to complain so far, other than the fans being a bit loud
     
  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Already answered that for you buddy...use CCC.

    Edit: Have requested the mods to move this into the P775DM3 thread as it has nothing to do with the KM1. ;)
     
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  23. raiden87

    raiden87 Notebook Evangelist

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    ok i received my clevo p775dm3-g today and everything seems to be fine except for the bios oc. I cant change the multiplicators or the voltage offset... is this normal? do i have to do it with xtu?!
     
  24. aziraphaleUK

    aziraphaleUK Notebook Consultant

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    Forget XTU use Throttlestop. As for the voltage offset you can properly add voltage but not use negative values, common issue with the current clevo bioses
     
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  25. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    If you have one K CPU like 7700K or 6700K you should be able to do both.
    We even defaulted the voltage offset to a negative value.
    Inside Windows don´t install XTU, use throttlestop!
     
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    yeah it works with throttlestop :/ mh pretty strange... is there a prema bios for the p775dm3-g?
     
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    game07 Newbie

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    hi guys

    i have P775DM2-G and facing with cpu overheating problem. I sent my laptop to service but they just updated bios and nothing changed.

    tests

    https://i.hizliresim.com/okr3l7.png (their tests on service)

    https://i.hizliresim.com/nWLMoa.png (i tested a few minitues ago)

    is this temps are normal? how can i fix this? what are the normal temps?
     
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    Its very hot. Try undervolting, that should help bring down those temps.

    Use Throttlestop for that
     
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    I have never tried undervolting before, which values should i set?
     
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    Wow that is hot.
    Well if you have a 7700K start with around -75mv, if you have 6700K start around -100mv.
    If a 7700K with -100mv does not keep you out of throttle city then there´s nothing more you can do, just limit the cores (reduce speed)... But well, what´s the point in buying such a powerful system if you are loosing a big chunk of the performance due to overheat, you would be better saving money and buying something with lower specs that would still perform the same.
    That´s what i call a Max-Q CPU :p
     
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    Check the pattern left by the paste and that all heatpipes get hot equally quickly.
     
  32. Tony Palmer

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    I delidded my p775dm3-g and it cooled down however due to a warped heatsink my seller sent out a replacement. Installed it myself with Grizzly paste and it's ten times worse. Throttling, temp shut downs the lot. Before anyone says I have undervolted with throttleshop and my paste job is fine. The heatsink itself doesn't even align into the screws properly so I can only guess it's not aligned at all. Its being picked up Monday to go back for them to look into but I can see this being a long long process they are so slow at everything even email replies. I'm waiting for them to get it back and blame the delid done on the CPU. Really disappointed in this laptop. Powerful components are useless if the laptop sounds like a jet engine and still isn't cool enough to do anything on.
     
  33. Xavier2612

    Xavier2612 Notebook Consultant

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    Where did you purchase your laptop? I purchase second P775DM3 from Novatech uk . Out of the box was getting GPU 91 CPU 85-90 . I delidded my CPU and applied LM Grizzly Cond . On GPU and CPU head i use Grizzly Kryonaut . Automatic profile (laptop is very quiet compare to same model from my signature) temps after long gaming period won't pass 75 on GPU and same on CPU. OC Profile
    laptop is loud but ..... GPU temps after long gaming period GPU 67-69 and CPU 62-65 lol . I play mostly Battlefield 1 . And those temps are without any CoolerMaster
     
  34. Tony Palmer

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    PCSpecialist. Out of the box my laptop was hitting 100 without undervolt etc. I repasted myself and applied an undervolt. The temps still hit high 80/90 even with OC. So I delidded and used CLU inside. I used CLU on the outside also and got some good temps for a while. Then PCSpecialist got in touch because the heatsink itself had dents and was warped when I bought it. They sent me the new heatsink on Tuesday and it is even worse. I applied Grizzly kryonaut to both chips and the temps are awful. The heatsink itself doesn't align to the threads properly and has dents all over it. Before the replacement Heatsink I was gaming with temps never going above 70-75 and very quiet fans even on OC profile.

    Now they're asking me to send it back for an unknown amount of time and I've got the feeling they are going to blame the DELID which was done perfectly and on the old heatsink dropped temps almost 15 degrees immediately. The IHS is sealed fine and they wouldn't even notice it has been done. The only thing thats changed from out of the box is the plastic covering around the GPU has peeled back due to be taped and retaped to paste. I've recovered it in insulating tape to cover the important parts.

    If I could go back in time I'd not have bought this laptop
     
  35. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    That´s an amazing laptop.
    Your problem is not related in any way with the laptop itself.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Were there signs of abuse on the outside of the package with the heatsink in it?
     
  37. Tony Palmer

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    What do you mean John?
     
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    There was no signs of damage but it went from package to laptop and the threads didn't line up. The gpu side of the plate was visibly lower on one side. Using paste and lifting it up there was very poor contact. Dents on the heatpipes again and the fan vents didn't fit flush to the fans. How can quality of such an important part be so poor?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It should not be like that is the simple answer, it's not normal to be like that. There will be some variation but no physical abuse signs.
     
  40. Tony Palmer

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    Maeker and John do either of you sell the heatsinks? I'd be happy to buy one that has been QC'd by yourselves. I've looked to no avail
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I don't handle parts deliveries, talk to your reseller again and point out your concerns.
     
  42. Xavier2612

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    I had couple of P775DM3 and i think this is like heatsink lottery lol . Some of them are crap and some of (smaller %) fit great. I sold one from Dream Machines and ill keep that from Novatech.
     
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    Funny thing is that some even fit too well. My CPU now stays at 72c with 4.5GHz x264ing 24/7 with fan nearly inaudible from ten feet away. That's great already, but my 1080 loves the cooking so much it creeps up to 1964MHz (yeah, a GTX1080 at nearly 2GHz in a laptop) at a nice comfy 80c. All the heat dumped into that heat sink so effectively from the GPU sends my CPU to 90c when both are maxed (fan max too, otherwise it pushes 99c).

    My heat sink is perfect, it just doesn't have the capacity to get rid of all the heat.
     
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    This is one of the best machines i've had in years! 6700k running at 74ºC in full load, 1080 running at 78ºC

    Clevo is doing a great job with the heatsinks and Arctic too of course with the MX4 ;)
     
  45. tijgert

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    What's so special about the Aetina 1080?
     
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    i have a question for you sir, the first part of this post talks about a FASer window, that i noticed was glossed over by the second part concerning prema bios stuff, did you ever find a solution to that? i ask because i have the same exact problem with my PD870dm3. if not, you are more than welcome to find my posts in the 9873 thread and add your 2 cents, or 'join the fray' as i so aptly put it. 'circle them wagons boys, we gots injuns comin' :D
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    They provide GPU solutions to military and medical industries and have the older 3.0 form factor, and charge a massive premium for it.
     
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    I do think it is a bit of a lottery the new heatsink came safely packaged but wasn't correct straight away. Bad quality control on a system that sorely needs an efficient heatsink
     
  49. joluke

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    Guys i have a problem and dunno where to ask:

    When flashing 1.06.02 from Clevo i get an error saying the file: P7xxDM3.BIN will not be flashed because the region it will be flashed is smaller

    any ideas on how to fix it?
     
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    Where did you get the file from?
     
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