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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. edryr

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    Yep, just saw this night after posting.
    Intel : we provide a new cpu for the same socket, but still incompatible. What else...
     
  2. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    I just got a wild BSOD, Driver IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL. Anyone knows what this is or how can I fix it?
     
  3. estens

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    I had the same bluescreen on my p775dm3.
    It was a defective cpu.
     
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  4. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Woah

    I'm sorry to hear that... This doesn't seem to be the case here though , it was a wild error that appeared once, not everything works alright. No idea what caused it or why, maybe something like a bad video driver?
     
  5. Sleepymas

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    What did it say in smaller text below the irql? Mine said synaptic something and updating the track pad diver fixed it.

    Look for that text next time and it will help guide you to the driver involved.

    You can also look at the event logs for more info on this one instead of waiting for another.


    Are you overclocking, under volting? I got my voltage to low and got bsod of death but I knew I caused that pushing to limits trying to cool things.
     
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  6. Papusan

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    Right after the latest Windoze Updates? If so, try roll back. @Phoenix @hmscott :rolleyes:
     
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  7. estens

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    It was under warranty so no problem ;)

    I think my was a worst case scenario, and that it is more likely to be a driver error.
    I also had some other issues then the BSOD's
     
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  8. Georgel

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    Nothing sesizable, -100mV on CPU and 4.0 GHz so a bit of underclock. It shouldn't have a panic attack, been working with those settings for a long time.



    I didn't have time to read what happened , the BSOD cleared too fast. I just reinstalled windows though...
     
  9. Georgel

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    No issues here. Happily, it is still under warrantty, so I've no reason to worry, I think that maybe the latest Nvidia drivers aren't up to the task.

    I was playing a video in madVR before this happened.
     
  10. Sleepymas

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    You can go to the Windows event viewer and read all the errors and warnings that happen. You can also get dmp dump logs from there for more info.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    This, those errors are usually more CPU/mem related but not always.
     
  12. Georgel

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    And now I find out why I shouldn't have diabled that virtual memory thing.

    Well then, if this happens again, at least I have virtual memory enabled and I'll know where to look now.

    This is the only thing I could find at the moment, doesn't seem to say much about what caused the error

    I have tons of errors in that list though, is this normal?

    Error that seems to be the shut down:

    - <Event xmlns=" http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    - <System>
    <Provider Name=" Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid=" {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
    <EventID>41</EventID>
    <Version>5</Version>
    <Level>1</Level>
    <Task>63</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000400000000002</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime=" 2017-08-05T12:01:53.737328500Z" />
    <EventRecordID>2722</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID=" 4" ThreadID=" 8" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>DESKTOP-P5VFQLB</Computer>
    <Security UserID=" S-1-5-18" />
    </System>
    - <EventData>
    <Data Name=" BugcheckCode">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" BugcheckParameter1">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name=" BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name=" BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name=" BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name=" SleepInProgress">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" BootAppStatus">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" Checkpoint">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" ConnectedStandbyInProgress">false</Data>
    <Data Name=" SystemSleepTransitionsToOn">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" CsEntryScenarioInstanceId">0</Data>
    <Data Name=" BugcheckInfoFromEFI">true</Data>
    </EventData>
    </Event>


    Also, my list seems kinda heavy. Is this normal?...

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Papusan

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    VERY NICE @Phoenix @hmscott @Mr. Fox
    Don't TRUST on Micro$haft:D
     
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  14. Sleepymas

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    Check the locations at end of this post, these are the files made while bsod says stand by while data is collected. There are dmp readers online I forget which one I used.

    My event log is always full of warnings and errors. On my desktop my monitors have been flashing off with a titan xp and event is nvidia driver crashing and recovering(I need to grab the new xp driver to see if it really helps like reviews say). I also have many kernel warnings on my desktop and laptop like you so unsure which are bad and which are just Windows being Windows.


    The default location of the dump file is %SystemRoot%memory. dmp or C:Windowsmemory. dmp if C: is the system drive. Windows can also capture small memory dumps which occupy less space. These dumps are created at %SystemRoot%Minidump. dmp(C:WindowsMinidump.dump if C: is the system drive)
     
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  15. Georgel

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    Not a single file .dmp format there, seems that it wasn't recorded, probably because I had the virtual Ram thingy turned off... Eh, if it doesn't happen agian, then it is all fine!
     
  16. danyune

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    P750DM2-G - Currently on 1.05.06 bios, and there's an overclock menu. I set to adaptive but I can't go negative, how do you set it to negative? It says the range is -500mV to 500mV on the sidebar, but the minimum it allows is 0
     
  17. Frits@LaptopParts4Less

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    You need a newer BIOS and/or EC. You then get the (+) and (-) Prefix option. I guess your supplier can provide this.
     
  18. danyune

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    I've left sager and digitalstorm an e-mail, haven't heard back, but it is also the weekend, so I'm hoping they'll respond. I did install 1.06.02, still didn't allow change to negative. You would think they'd fix that between the versions.

    I was told newest was 1.06.09, haven't been able to find it anywhere on this site, or anywhere on the net for that matter
     
  19. Papusan

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    Download and use THROTTLESTOP
     
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  20. Dede76

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    Hi Experts,

    I have a p775dm3-g with Bios 1.06.04 .I have problems with the w10 creators update on m.2 Samsung 950 pro.I always get to this screen " winload.efi corrupt or missing".There must be some issues with bios ahci,nvme driver .My ssd won´t be recognized either in the bios menu ,maybe it´s dying.If i go to the previous version of windows ,it boots up again even it is not present in the biosmenu but i can see it under device manager.

    Samsung magician tool shows no errors

    Any suggestions?
     
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  21. danyune

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    Just wanted to note incase it's searched, a new bios did fix the +/- overclock in bios for the P750DM2-G

    I was provided a 1.06.11 bios from John @ Obsidian PC
     
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  22. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    Yes indeed i provided you with the stock CLEVO BIOS.
    Those been available for a long time, even before version 1.06.09
     
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  23. 5P4MB0T

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    Don't worry about your SSD. I ran into the same issue some months ago and found a workaround:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...tman-3-0-lounge.794538/page-357#post-10508605

    Not sure if there is a way to force feed Windows the Intel RAID drivers without a reinstall, though.
     
  24. Dede76

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    Thank you for your help.The workaround seems only to work with a fresh reinstall but if i feel the need to update ,i will consider it.I think there is no performance gains gamewise anyway with the update .Cheers
     
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  25. Meaker@Sager

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    The creators update has hands down been one of the worst updates to ever come out of that office.
     
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  26. ZeroEx

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    What is so bad about it?
    I hear people cussing it all the time, but I dunno what's so bad about it.
     
  27. danyune

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    Yeah it was available, but the 1.05.06 and 1.06.02 (only versions i could find online without resellers) didn't allow a negative offset, despite the description saying "between -500mV to 500mV", it would minimize at 0, no matter what
     
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    @danyune, @XMG has just released a newer bios version for P75xDM2 1.06.10 but they did not include the newer EC version that was released in march. Is there a newer EC version in 1.06.11?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    If you update to a stock EC then your system is going back into throttle hell buddy. ;)
     
  30. steberg

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    Ouch, bummer... :oops:
     
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    This is crazy.

    I sent my laptop off for repair to Scan, they can't fix it themselves so they end up shipping to "the manufacturer to fix".
    2 - 3 weeks later I get my laptop back, GPU is fixed.
    But then never tested the CPU and my CPU is overheating...... f----!

    Now I gotta send it back again to be fixed and I need it for a job 10 days from now.....
     
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  32. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    lol, I cracked up.

    It's that bad eh ?
     
  33. aziraphaleUK

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    You will be very lucky if Scan can or will do anything about the overheat/throttle issue other than a repaste.

    I sent my P870DM2 for a overheat problem came back with a damaged screen that was the start of 10 weeks of waiting for a working replacement screen, it ended up having 4 screens fitted before they got a working one. The day before shipping it back to me one of the GPU's failed during testing and was quoted 2-3 weeks for a replacement. At that point I told them to replace the whole unit, which they did.

    New unit still had a overheat/throttle problem.

    There are a few threads about Scan in the forums, seems that the advice is get a refund and purchase from another supplier like Obsidian or fix the problem yourself (Prema bios/Delid/Shim fixes).
     
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  34. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    wow... not everyone can be so fortunate to be within walking distance of thier distributor, so times can increase exponentially when both parties have to communicate and then one side has to then take it up with another and go back and forth.
    I personally am very fortunate that Eurocom, my distributor is pretty much next door to me :p
    we're like on different side of the border between Ontario and Quebec. I wish I was on thier side of the line mind you... bah politics in quebec.. not getting into that one haha
     
  35. Georgel

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    Woaaah :confused:

    That would be quite bad!

    I wonder if there are new updates for Prema users :D

    I'm running on 4.0 GHz now, never touched more than 80C, but I'd like a bit less fans, seems that even if I manually throttle the CPU to 800 mHz while it is downloading something, I still would like a bit less noise :D
     
  36. Georgel

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    Woah...

    I'm really sad to hear those things. I hope that you'll get better later! One thing I would recommend is purchasing from a Prema partner shop, or Obsidian, they tend to test things in depth and avoid this kind of problems.

    the laptop itself is a fun thing, you're sure to have tens of hours of fun with it, just try to order from someone who tests it and solves heat issues :)

    Maybe lower CPU clocks to 4.0 GHz in case of too much heat, this lowers my temps to max 80C
     
  37. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    with the EUROCOM unlocked F5 bios I noticed I could set the fans manually temperature wise and what behavior/ percentage RPM wise etc...

    (fun fact, EUROCOM literally asked me to start spelling their name with all caps. Apparently thats a thing, thier name is full caps. )
     
  38. estens

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    That sounds like a usefull function that should find its way to other machines aswell
     
  39. Prema

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    That option in bios does nothing. FANs are controlled by the EC and not the bios.
     
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  40. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    This is pretty standard on many laptops, but recently they like hide this sort of menu.
     
  41. estens

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    Really!? Guess I am half blind or something then :p

    But I guess it doesn't matter of it doesn't do anything.
     
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    Fan options are certainly not standard in notebook BIOSs.
     
  43. ekkolp

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    I'm thinking on buying this laptop. My budget can't overpass 2200€.

    P775DM3-G w/ GTX1070, i7 7700k, 16Gb DDR4, etc = 2150€.

    What do you think about this combo? Do you think that should I wait untill Clevo release their Coffee-Lake iterations?
     
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    If you still have the laptop in your signature then you can wait a while.
     
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    Sadly I haven't that laptop anymore xD
     
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    If you don't have a gaming machine now then I would not wait.
     
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    That's what I did, thank you :).
     
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    I have now left this Old Liquid Ultra test prosject for almost 4 months. Now it is summer and soon fall. No changees, no downgrading of the quality. This 3 year old Liquid Ultra (now soon 3.5 years :)) is just as good as when I painted it May 9th this year. I painted on it with a paint brush and still liquid and useful.
    [​IMG]

    @Mr. Fox @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @bloodhawk @Phoenix @TBoneSan @iunlock @Mobius 1 @Vasudev
     
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    Sugoi senpai. A great day for science.
     
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    Greetings!

    I'm looking to buy a DTR gaming laptop, and I'm currently stuck choosing between a P751DM2-G or a P775DM3-G. With both units specced the same (i7-7700K, GTX 1070) the price difference is around 100€, so I'm trying to figure out which would suit me best.

    I've read a few reviews that mentioned the display on both units flexing noticeably. Is this enough to cause issues during travel? My job has me moving around every once in a while, so I'd like to know that the laptop can withstand a trip by car, plane or train.

    Aside from that, I'd like to know whether the cooling system on the P775 is significantly better than the P751. I've read that people have had issues with warped heatsinks on the P775.

    Ultimately, though, I believe the tiebreaker is going to be the display. Ideally, I'd like to get the P751 with a 120Hz G-Sync display, but I'm not sure how much more useful that's going to be a few years down the line when the 1070 won't be able to pull that off at 1080p. Compared to that, the P775 with a 75Hz display sounds a bit more sensible.

    I'd appreciate any insight or advice you have on the matter.
     
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