*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

Sounds like you only have the standard Intel rapid storage drive installed and not an NVME driver
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...ds/software/Samsung_NVM_Express_Driver_22.zip

 

Yeah I have never touched the driver so it's what came on it. It said Windows generic when I got that value. Thanks for link I will apply that and see what happens.

About cooler to use, I just got that u3 above but have not modded and am seeing 10c cooler cpu temps and 5c gpu. I am very pleased with the purchase.

 

Applied the driver above and now it hits 95c with ATTO for temperature 2 so worse than before...

 

I don't have a temp 1 and two in HWmonitor, I have just one and I use HWmonitor, crystal disk info and aida64, all give me the same SMART temps. My guess is something is doing tons of tiny reads/writes on yours and that why it never cools down. if you want to go back to the old one just delete the driver and force update again.
Are you using ACHI or Intel Raid in your BIOS?

 

Hey guys, am tempted to buy one of this laptop, especially P775DM2 model. Do we have any review about this machine? As I did go around and can't find one.

 

Guys, how do I connect an external 4K screen to the P775DM3-G and use it in extended desktop mode at 60 Hz ? With HDMI I seem to be limited to 30 Hz in that mode compared to 60 Hz in duplicate mode.

 

The mini dp will output at 60 in extended desktop.

 

Hi all. Honestly, I'm still a bit worried about in-game temperatures, especially the 1070 ones (the cpu rarely reaches those peaks and it usually stays around 85°). Ok, room temp is around 25°, and this only happens with high-demanding games, but it still seems strange to me as the notebook is only 11 months old. The back is lifted and I also did a dust cleaning. My vendor kept telling me they are "normal".
What do you think? Thanks in advance.

(Fan profile set to auto via clevo control center, not on max-speed through fn+f1)

 

Talk with brother @Georgel as he has the machine.

If you have seen increased temp lately and with same ambient temp home who can't be lowered back again with dust cleaning, then you will have to put on new quality thermal paste. I expect ambient temp is not changed. Buy you a quality thermal paste and change out the old one. See what Thermal paste you should opt for Here

Remember your laptop model have heatsink with shared heat pipes between Cpu and Gpu. Aka Unified heatsink design. With worsened temp on Cpu, will this affect the Graphics temp. As well can this be the opposite if graphics temp go up. Thermal paste doesn't live forever, bruh. If your heatsink is uneven and doesn't fit very well on hardware, you risk that the thermal paste will pump out faster than normal aka will dry out and temp will increase.

 

So you think temps are not normal, even on this season?
Anyway, I started noticing it at the beginning of summer, after my vendor replaced me the 1070 (it had a problem when it was too cool, notebook screen remained black). Before that, temps were fine, GPU never went over 81-83°, but it was autumn-winter and the room temp was around 17-18°... so I don't know what to think.
The CPU never gave me any problems. I know the heatsink is unified, so I guess the problem might be the 1070 at this point. I always use MX-4 as thermal paste, but the fact is... the notebook is barely a year old, isn't it strange that is already necessary to change thermal paste? :-/

 

I can't tell if the temp is normal or not. Haven't the laptop model. But if you seeing increased temp even with no dust in fans/heatsink grills... Only culprit can be higher ambient temp home vs. before or the thermal paste is starting wearing out. It can also be the thermal pads wasn't put on correctly when the vendor replaced your 1070 graphics card!! A known problem.

Bad/wrong fit of thermal pads will raise the heatsink from the die/IHS. And this will again increase temp higher than normal.

Remember also Mx-4 ain't a very good thermal paste. It is known for pumping out very fast due laptops worse cooling. Even on desktops. I would change it regardless of your temp problem or not!! It's junk on laptops!!

If your heatsink isn't fully even/flat, the thermal paste will start pump out a lot faster than normal. It's completely normal. And Mx-4 doesn't make it any better!!

 

so i've been looking at the service manual for the 775dm3 and in the system block schematic
and there where the block diagram is for the NGFF(m2) slot that is under the keyboard is marked out for a 3g/4g lte card and that there is also supposedly a sim card slot near the sata3 hdd port (near circuit wise)
so my question is what m2 lte cards (if any) are compatible with this?
am i correct in assuming that any non-model specific (non-oem firmware loaded) LTE card in the NGFF format will load up and work once drivers are installed?

 

Honestly, I really didn't know that... my vendor also uses that same thermal paste (mx-4) as I used it on my previous model (p150em). As for the heatsink thermal pads, they seem placed well to me but, who knows.
I looked at the link you gave me, I think I'll definitely go with the Phobya Nanogrease Extreme, it seems really good. Maybe I'll test it on the p150em first to see the results. But, at the moment there is only a (huge) problem: I cannot repaste until another 2 years, or my warranty would be void (I cannot pull off the heatsink without breaking the warranty seals, unfortunately). So I have no choice but to wait autumn/winter and see how temperatures performs, and then inform my vendor asking them the permission to break the seals for repasting.

 

delidded cpu?

edit
not k cpu sorry. repaste!

 

Delid can still help the non-K SKUs.

 

Remember to keep track of temp. If it gets too bad, call your vendor support. But now you know the reasons and what to buy. Good luck, Sir

Are you sleeping?

Exactly

 

I was a little tired

 

Hello all!

I've ordered a P775DM3-G and I'm hoping for delivery to happen sometime next week. In the meantime I've been looking for a laptop bag or backpack that would be able to fit the machine and a few accessories (G13 gameboard, over-ear headset, mouse, external HDD and others). Now, this unit is pretty hefty, so most 17.3" bags and backpacks I've found would seem to be inadequate (even my very spacious Hama Vienna 17.3").

Do you have any recommendations in this regard? As far as quality standards go, people seem to be praising the Everki Titan 18.4, but that backpack seems simply massive to me. My other worry is that, because of its size, it would be denied as carry-on lugggage on European airlines. This isn't too much of a dealbreaker for me, since I don't travel by air that often, but it would be nice to have that option without sacrificing build quality.

 

I use this one: https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B0007V75CS
You can carry the laptop+brick and some other stuff.

 

The belkin slim is not bad either, it can fit a fair bit even given the name.

 

I recommend SWISS laptop bags, they're the best IMO.

 

Can we revisit the WQHD screens for a second? Is there any inprovement on the banding issue?

 

Banding issue ? Explain ?

 

Where have yoo been?

 

No disrespect intended, but it seems you're some sort of a reseller... how can you not know about the banding issue? It's been an issue for over a year now.

Small recap: the WQHD screens have, by multiple reports and my own unfortunate experience, an issue where the horizontal lines seem of alternating non-uniform brightness, resulting in what looks like as if it is interlaced and clearly visible stripes under certain circumstances (when looking close enough).

Very visible in a desktop environment up to the point of being unacceptable (useless for photo or artwork) but much less noticeable while gaming, it seems to be a hit and miss kind of thing, though that might be because some people are just less picky and not neccesarily because some screens are that much better than others.

With it being such a 'well known issue' (although not with all of us it seems) I'd expect the manufacturer to have come up with an updated model that doesn't display these issues. I mean, how hard can it be?

So, if anybody knows anything, I'd like to be clued in

 

banned for few days for advertising, doesn't matter where, I made mistake, I paid the price. But yeah what did I miss ?

I seriously never saw it and never knew what people were talking about.

The issue might not have come to me, because I get my own panels, and maybe the panels affected that you speak of are like OEM ones from the sellers/distributors ?

My stock panels, that I take are usually the 1080P FHD g-sync eDP panels , and they never had this issue that I am aware of.

Maybe I oddly avoided this, not many laptops I sell have WQHD, if ever any. Costs too much, and I can get 4K for less with better picture, so I always went 4K.

Remember I haven't been an official reseller for very long, initially this started as a hobby, I just wanted to help people not get screwed when buying videocards online.

I had purchased like 3-4 videocards and they were all sold as new, and they were used, and died, and people just pawn off thier garbage hoping someone will buy thier issues,
I got fed up a few years ago and got in contact with a supplier and started helping out the way I thought I could. one thing led to another, and so here I am.

But now I will make mental note to skip anything in the middle of 1080P and 4K. Sort of always did anyways.

 

The one WQHD panel I got was from my own reseller, a reputable local brand called BTO. I've also read about these panels and their banding issues on many occasions and it ails even Alienware and the likes so it's not localized to untrustworthy B grade pushers.
I do fear that buying a WQHD screen from eBay or Aliexpress is a near guarantee to be disappointed.

I do love my UHD screen though, so not sure if I would go back to WQHD... but 120Hz does lure me...

 

I've never heard of this brand...

 

They've been "Takin' Care of Business" for some time now!

For those of you who get it, Sorry... I couldn't resist. For those of you who don't, it's a Canadian Rock Band thingy.

LOL!

 

Doesn't matter, it's a local reseller, just like all the other resellers.

 

Ah, well I am a reseller, but I swear I get less than 1% business locally.

 

Temps are fairly good on P775, especially with some Prema magic. Depends on what you're doing and what you plan to do with it. Might be a bit noisy at times, looking for a new update about this issue, if it can be helped in any way @Prema , since now it is a bit hard to watch movies using the laptop's speakers.

 

Where can we get this Prema magic ?

According to the Obsidian tool my BIOS is 1.06.04, the latest is 1.06.11. Because of my lack of knowledge in this domain and the fact I'm not an OBSIDIAN-PC client (and maybe the warning about potentially destroying non-OBSIDIAN-PC laptops) I have no idea how to update it.

I've read somewhere in here the Prema BIOS helped with the temps, which is why it looks interesting.

Thanks

 

Don;t mind me asking, but how does the bios help your listening ?

I do not know about the bios helping with temps, since it's really up to undervolting to get these newer CPU's to work properly (like within proper performance and temps wise)

Maybe I should do a video of post some screenies...

what is it about temps that have you guys concerned ?

 

The fan noise is the issue, it is extremely loud even on very light loads, like having a few chrome tabs open, I can't watch a movie because the fans are almost on full blast.

The temps are good, about 80 - 85C max with 4.0 GHz, but they reach 99C if I go to 4.2 GHz max.

 

Prema helps with a better control of everything, but it doesn't mean that it just lowers the temps, you can do that by fine tuning things.

If you know how to use it, it is one of the strongest tools in the universe, @Prema @Papusan @Mr. Fox can probably explain much better than me.

You aren't supposed to have it with Obsidian, but they have a unique BIOS of their own, which is supposed to be pretty good as well!

 

Ah yiss that makes sense. You should have lower temps mind you, running a movie, at only 4.0Ghz./ I suggest trying an undervolt.

 

I and several others have already suggested what @Georgel have to do for getting better temps. Now, it's up to him. Lowering voltage ain't enough if you want decent temp.

 

Good? Really? I get 74 max at 4.4 with fans maybe half speed. Loving my liquid metal!

 

I have to set my 7700K to 4.2 all cores and -144 to stay below 85 gaming at 4k.

I can push to 44, 43,43,43 and -126 to stay at 90 4k gaming.

That is with overclock fans setting and u3 cooler.

If I run 45 and -100 I will hit 102 in seconds.

My gpu maxes around 85. My wife hates the fan noise but she puts up with it. If I run max fan I can push more but she would murder me

I tend to adjust my cpu per game or what I'm doing. When compiling code or running vm's I run at 47, Wolfenstein 44, doom 42.

Temps suck but I've learned how to make best of it since its my jobs laptop I can't delid.

 

Yeah, nothing beat liquid metal. 42x shouldn't go much over low 50's with liquid metal and fully fans in bench. Ordinarily good thermal paste, does not even come close. But 99C with 42x is all too much even with medium quality thermal paste.

 

Those temps are under full load, movie watching is intense on the GPU (not the CPU) for me because I use madVR with fancy settings.

I am working on it actually, still can't go much lower than this. Now I just wish the fans were quieter, even at the price of higher temps...

Well, I carry this laptop around quite a lot, Liquid Metal won't do it....

 

Delid is the key for cpu. Really.

 

Well, I need to keep it whole because #warranty and #Romania.

Next time I am really considering going with either HID or Obsidian, because they can ensure the temperature control and delid and OC and zero dead pixels (I still have one with my laptop, hate it), and perfect display colors, and everthing else!!!

I wish I wasn't so afraid to order from outside the first time.

 

I'm very happy with Obsidian tbh, no regrets.

 

But you can re-paste with conventional high quality thermal paste + lapping the HS. First step, bruh

 

I was in your situation, and in the end I decided to go with Obsidian over the Romanian reseller for the same reasons you listed. I'd rather wait longer for international shipping and pay more for pick-up and return in case I have to send it back than try my hand at doing all the necessary steps to manage the thermals on one of these machines and risk ending up with an overpriced paperweight.

Why are you worried about buying from abroad, btw? As long as you buy from within the EU there's no import tax, and online payments work the same.

Wouldn't lapping the heatsink void the warranty?

 

Lapping the heatsink means more polished/glossy copper. No different than a new good quality HS.

 

I know, but wouldn't that still void the warranty on the laptop, seeing as how it's irreversible? Or have I misread this situation, and you're talking about the CPU itself.

 

Physical modifications would void the warranty yes.