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I was concerned about ordering from outside Romania back then... Now it would be more than fine.

 

@Georgel

As the PremaMod version removes the board throttle the FANs are tuned to be capable of speeding up to full blast on their own in order to compensate for the extra power and keep the system cool.
The stock BIOS also forces a CPU undervolt of 100mV and blocks BIOS voltage changes.
Since we removed that lock, you now you have to manually undervolt to 100mV- if you don't plan on OCing.

If performance isn't what you are after I could also make a version with quieter FANs as well...but you may first want to set CCC to Entertainment mode rather than performance in order to get quieter FAN profiles out of the EC. Also what CCC revision are you running atm? The version from the beta testing group forces overclocked FAN profiles.

 

If you do it right it won't mind being hauled around a lot. I'm a pilot and I take mine everywhere and it gets mighty bumpy in that trolley sometimes. And when the copilot lands...

 

Sure, it's always the copilot with the bumpy landings

 

Hi,

Summoning the great @Prema, my current BIOS version is 1.06.04. Is there a way to update it and flash yours to my machine ?

Thanks

 

Is there a way to buy Prema Mod? I bought my laptop from the PC Specialist in the UK.

 

At the moment no official way.

 

@Meaker@Sager do you know if sager has plans to work with prema(if you're allowed to talk about it). I asked in support email when I was having temp issues but didn't get much info.

Sadly they said they need it back to review temps but I can't have that kind of downtime. I ordered this laptop because my 8651 was having issues with the gpu, if my job finds out this one has issues also I might never be able to get sager again. Most of my co-workers use msi as they prefer it's build but I wanted better cpu gpu combo.

 

Well, have you ever had a rough landing as a passenger and thought the captain did it? Exactly

Besides, if I do make one, it's only Boeing recommended as a too soft a landing is actually really bad for the tires. Back on topic

 

No plans I am aware of. Temperatures should be controllable on the stock BIOS if the hardware is all OK.

How comfortable are you working on the heatsink?

 

Hi,

I reinstalled EVERYTHING and went from 10 fps to 200 in League of Legends, which is kind of a nice change.
Problem is, I get random crashes from time to time (crashed in League in 4K but not 1080p, and in Fortnite (4K) after a while).
Using HWiNFO and RivaTuner, I monitored CPU and GPU temps. GPU hit a stable 80-81°C, but the CPU... Well I saw it at under 80° when glancing at the temps while gaming, but according to HWiNFO it hit 89° without me seeing it in-game, which is a bit high.
Could it be the reason of the crashes ?

I'll try undervolting/underclocking to see if anything changes.

Thanks.

 

Whenever life permits I am going through PMs and help wherever possible...

 

@Meaker@Sager I am very comfortable with working on the laptop. I don't open too deep though as it's officially a company computer and they like it having a warranty.

Usually I need to upgrade the video card every year so I just have to limp through until warranty is up then hopefully swap the video card with next gen. If I can get the next gen and it works then I will delid while it's apart.

At least that is why I bought this model. Hopes of upgrading parts instead of getting a new one. This is my 4th laptop in 3 years because I was caught up in light bga before I found this site. I told my job let me get the better one so they can pay 1500 next time instead of 5000, hopefully it's true. I would even send it in for a motherboard swap if that becomes an option. Anything to help not get everything new.

 

Well, looks like CL won't run in 2xx/1xx chipsets so you'll be forced to change laptop when you want to upgrade your CPU...

 

No CCC actually, they just blow like that... I am not sure if that should happen, right now I have ~10 NBR pages open, Facebook, Discord, 3 Windows Explorer windows, and that is pretty much it. The fans are blowing at ~60% - 80% of their max speed.

Right now I don't know if I have any kind of undervolt, I think, I just left most BIOS settins on default, the core speed is about 4.0 GHz at all times, 1.235V max Voltage, but I am getting a weird behavior, and I want to ask what might be causing it.

I ran a Cinebench R15 session with all my web pages loaded and such, with 4.0 GHz and such, and while the test ended well, with 865 score, max temps 81C, the screen was frozen for most of the test, the mouse was not moving, nothing happened, I pressed CTRL+ALT+DEL, and in ~1 minute, when it finished the R15 run, it resulted in a finished run with a good score.

I don't know if I did anything in special that might have caused this.

One thing I might want to ask now, is where do I get the latest, good working CCC?

That sounds like you're having quite the adventure there!

 

Like I said:

In BIOS set voltage offset manually to negative (-) and 100mV.

Set CCC to entertainment or quiet mode:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/latest-control-center-5-0001-1-46-link-included.808853/

 

I have given up on CL but hoping that the video card might have a chance to be upgraded. If not then I'm going back to bga, if I have to replace whole thing every year anyhow why should I pay for the heavier hotter running laptop with minimal gain in processing power? Fingers crossed I can salvage something, maybe I can just get a new mb from the reseller and update video card and cpu but not holding my breath.

<edit>
I understand why as I can fix broken parts easier and if I buy the right years I can update parts. Just stinks to pick the wrong year to finally move up to better hardware so frustrated at moment but it does blow away my 8651

 

Downloaded and installed it, seems that the fans still spin at 60% - 70% of their top speed, CCC didn't change anything related to the fans... Curious why though...

Setting CCC to Entertainment, Quiet, or other settings does change the brightness of the display, but doesn't change the speed of the fans...

To mention again what the main problem is, the fans spin to ~70% with light loads, like 15% of the CPU used. I have nothing against fans spinning up with heavy loads, but opening chrome tabs is a pretty light load, yet it pushes the fans a bit more than it should, resulting in some activities like movies watching being less fun because I cannot hear the speakers of the laptop.

EDIT2: I am really sorry to be a nuisance with this one, but I cannot find any kind of solution by myself, tried literally anything I could have thought of...

 

This is the only... somewhat working solution I found, but now the fans jump from really slow to really fast, the solution is not very efficient, and the CPU fan stops, then runs, then stops, but the GPU fan keeps going...

 

The basic issue is that with typical loads, the fan spin up to 50% - 60% of their max speed, which is really high for most activities.

I have around 20 Chrome tabs open at all times, but the CPU usage appears to be around 5% - 10% most of times, the temps are under 50C, but the fans really spin a lot.

This is the HWNfo and Task Manager status when the fans are at 50% - 60%

The main point I'm probably trying to make is that with CPU usage at ~15 - ~25%, I think that the fan speed should be a tad lower. CCC + Entertainment + Auto mode / Quited mode didn't solve this issue, and I am not sure why.

 

I had a similar issue when I upgraded my CCC to some newer version (don't recall which one). Most irritating.
Nothing I did could get the fans as quiet as my old version did and the CPU temp was also negligible at around 50c.

I came from v5000.1.1.09 and eventually went back to that again. Once I reverted to .09 the problem disappeared and the system is once again whisper quiet. I use the Quiet profile with fans on Automatic.

I did seem to notice that the fans stayed a lot more quiet if I didn't open CCC from the tray. Once I opened it from the tray it became noisier...

Perhaps the XTU 'interference' doesn't activate before you pull CCC up... just a guess.

 

With me, it might also be due to my unusual high loads, but the fan speed thingy happens when the CCC is not installed as well, and I did the reset thingy, you press

FN + D + Power until it restarts and you get the message that the BIOS was reset.

 

Clevo's stock EC doesn't keep the system cool enough as many automatically only spin up to about a total of 75% of their capacity unless FN+1 is used. Since power throttle is removed from the premamod we let the FANs automatically spin to 100% at a temperature of 85c.

On your specific EC mod the CPU & GPU FANs start spinning at 40c to 25% duty.
At 5xc this is increased to 33%, at lower 6xs to 42% and at the higher 6xs to 50% FAN duty.
Now if the CPU/GPU heat up quickly or spike from below 40c to over 60c it may feel as if the FANs start spinning right to 50%.

If you want I can make another mod where it lets your system run hotter and spin up later, but it won't be good for overclocking...drop me a mail and I'll cook something for you once I get a chance.

 

Woah, thank you very much for explaining the fan tables for P775!

I think that it is a great job that you made it run at 100% at 85C, that really helps! It doesn't really go over 85 - 90C in most tasks, even during R15 runs.

Uhm... The main issue for me is that it idles at 50C or so, so most of the time I can hear pretty loudly. Seems that my issue right now is that I have temp spikes and this makes it heat and spin more than it should.

I can try repasting once more, but I'm not sure if this would help that much. I already have -100mV in there, not sure if I can push any more without risking my work. I wonder if there is anything else I can do for now.

 

Exactly same problem here. And same goes for gpu fan. On, off, on, off. Even in automatic, quiet, manual or anything.
I tried litteraly all CCC versions, from the oldest to new ones, reset bios, etc etc.
The only way to solve fan issue is to totally remove CCC. Now the fans are full stock, really quiet, but i have no control over backlit keyboard.

What drives me crazy is that even under burn test (prime 95), my cpu never reach above 63 degrees at stock fans ( without fn + 1 ). 6700K @4.2ghz, -225mv (1.06v vid), delid with liquid metal.

The more i go with clevo, the more i am disapointed with them. Only good thing is cooling.

 

Can you confirm that you also tried the non-XTU enabled CCC? (Obsidian disabled XTU in their CCC version).

 

yes i confirm

 

All right, and what bios are you using? Is it a Prema one or stock?

 

stock one. wanted a prema bios but impossible.

 

Few things are really impossible, this also is just hard. Why do you say it's impossible?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10602105

 

Balls finally dropped and I delidded my 7700K using the Rockit 88.
Great tool, you just put the CPU in the tool, and stop when you hear the IHS pop.
Bad paste job ofc (there was even thermal paste between two socket pins), repasted between the die and the IHS, the IHS and the heatsink and the GPU chip and the heatsink with Grizzly Conductonaut.
I didn't have enough (part of the syringe went straight to my curtains) but the paste job is still better than the original (and with a better quality product).

Doing the same things I was doing previously that were crashing my computer, I experienced no crashes yes and lost approximately 10 degrees (GPU from 90 to 80). Not that much but given my paste job I'm happy the laptop even booted.

 

When you say you did not have enough it should only be the thinnest of layers you are using.

 

You should really try a re-paste Georgel.

 

I am done with this 6700K CPU, I am doing a repaste!

I am fed up with this, just having 5 tabs of Chrome with NBR will make the fans go crazy and the temps are 70 on average on GPU and 60 on average on CPU, with no load!!

OK, asking this for the last time (hopefully). What paste is the best and the safest? I am a noob, never did a proper paste job, I have no idea what I'm doing, I need something really easy to apply and something for noobs. I have some Arctic mx4 or something still left from the other paste job(s), but I think that this one is not very good. I don't want to try diamond that can scratch, and I don't want to try liquid metal because if I screw up, I can't fix it. Just something for a noob please...

 

I would try... Phobya NanoGrease Extreme 16 W/mK, as we don't know if your heatsink is top notch or not(this paste is similar in viscosity as ICD). See also Which Thermal Paste to buy and apply. Grizzly Kyronaut or Gelid Extreme is also a good option if the heatsink you have is even aka of good quality. Easier to apply if you want to spread paste on die / IHS. Thermal paste as Grizzly and Gelid, who is lower viscosity paste, will spread easier whatever application method you will use. Maybe start with this two if you haven't done this before. All options mentioned will be a lot better than your +1.5 years old Arctic Mx-4.

 

Okay, moving to that thread, and ordered a NanoGrease Extreme because I am not sure how good the contact is and if Nanogrease would ensure best performance, even with a not so good heatsink, then let's try it.

I have to ask this though, it comes with a spatula... Can it be applied without that spatula?

 

Sure if it comes in syringe form, i once ordered gelid extreme in litte cup form with a spatula THAT was a pain in the butt to apply.

But back to your question, i apply the thermal paste in an X form on CPU and a mediumish blob on the GPU. If you want i can even make some Demonstration pictures, right now my last application was 3 or 4 months ago with Grizzly Kryonaut and my max temps are about 83 °C CPU and 72 °C GPU while playing the new Guild Wars 2 addon and thats my killer game in terms of temps.

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Thank you!

Some photos would help a lot!

what are your idle temps?

 

will do the photos tomorrow in the evening, already bedtime for me

idle temps, dunno i never look at them but last time i checked my systray, where TS is running in the background and shows CPU temps, it wasn't above 40 °C i think about 36-39 °C

 

Any chance for a BIOS mod? I think this was mentioned as a possibility on the WAN show by Steve from Gamers Nexus.

 

I think not because for what I'm reading from @Prema ...

 

Would 8700K be possible in this machine?

 

nope

 

Rumours suggest that Intel is only allowing the latest CPUs to work with the latest chipsets and vice versa too.

 

Has anybody here done Coolanes vBios mod?
Been thinking about unlocking the 1070 in my p750dm2 to 200W to take off the ball and chain that is Nvidias power limit, let the damn thing run free.

Looking for opinions on the process and any problem yall might have run into.

 

So I've been reading stuff about liquid metal recently...
People pretending it's moving inside their computers because of gravity, shorting out motherboards and stuff like that. Is it really possible ?

 

Some people are using Liquid Metal, but my understanding is that they

- Have a perfect heatsink

- They also take extra measures to be able to use it.

 

I fix it for you, bruh

 

I'm using LM for shunt modding my GPU and even now after several months, ofc with transporting, hot and cold environment it didn't move 1mm and i didn't really secured it besides some spare thermal pad i put on my mainboard so IF some LM would fall of the underside of the GPU PCB it would hopefully catch it, but still untainted since.


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