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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

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    Should last a good while. It is good paste. Thicker than anything other than IC Diamond. As I mentioned before, apply a line of it on one edge of the CPU and use the spatula included to spread it across to the other side like spreading peanut butter on bread. If it is not enough, apply another line on the opposite edge of the CPU and spread it toward the paste already applied.

    I have never used Arcticlean or any other TIM solvent. I also just use ordinary isopropyl alcohol. If you haven't already bought it, I would say save the money for something else. Maybe buy two tubes of Phobya or just leave the money in the bank. It might be a good product, but I don't see a real reason to buy it. (Just my personal opinion.)
     
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    I can't find Isopropyl Alchool in here so easily, and that cleaner thingy is about 7$, while typical sanitary alchool can be around 3$, not sure if it really breaks the bank :D

    I'll go with your advice and return to tell how it went!
     
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  4. Papusan

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    You could also see if you can get a package with alcohool (small wipes) at the pharmacy for the cleaning. I'm sure You can get them cheap or with almost no cost(single or in small packages). They are useful for other things as well.

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    Indeed. I use them for all kinds of small cleaning tasks. They are very handy little wipes.
     
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    @Georgel
    so my promised mini-repaste guide is finally here, took my sadly longer cause my grandpa passed away this monday so i was at my grandma this week, but i'm here now and can do some stuff ;)

    Hopefully the quality of the pics is ok, have to use my spare Nexus 5 till i get my N6P back from RMA (battery issue :rolleyes:)


    1.)

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    my weapons of choice, just some alcohol + paper towels and ofc a screwdriver to open the bad girl. Before we start doing everyting disconnect the Battery

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    here was my pervious state of the thermal grease, temps were top notch but just in case, looks a bit dry here maybe due to the fact i had my NB with me but wasn't using it and left it in my car, so quite cold temps

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    here some close up pics

    3.)

    let's cleanup the previous thermal paste with the alcohol just dunk in some paper towel into the pot and let it soak for a bit, then just wipe of the old stuff from the GPU and CPU and the heatsink till everything start to look clean, reapply some alcohol if it takes a bit longer.

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    after you cleaned 95% of it off, i still continue to clean the HS and GPU/CPU as you can see in the pic there is quite some dirt left even when already seems fine, i continue to do that till nothing much more is coming off.

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    after everything is done i apply the paste in an X pattern on my CPU, i had the best results with that in terms of temperature and coverage, it can vary tho due to heatsink quality. I don't apply anything actively on the Heatsink itself mostly i just put the rest what's oozing out of the tube after the application onto my CPU heatspreader itself or on the HS.

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    on the GPU i use a little line in size bit bigger than a rice corn due to my heatsink (top GPU DIE side isn't covered if i'm not using a bit more), on this picture i used a bit too much however but more is better than too less.

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    after the application is done, i put my heatsink back on the components and screw the screws in counterclockwise so that they sit perfectly and then screw it clockwise lightly just so they hold in place and don't fall out. Then apply some slight preasure on the GPU and screw the screws in all the way.

    Do the same on the CPU part and you are done, just put back together your backcover and do some temperature tests like gaming or rendering whatever to validate that you did your applications correctly.

    Hope this quick and dirty Mini-Guide helped

    Edit: here the temps after the repaste and some quick 1024M testing in Throttlestop

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    Looks good to me, nice guide :)
     
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    +rep for showing @Georgel how to fix it :vbthumbsup:
     
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  9. Georgel

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    Really nice guide!!

    Thank you very much!

    How comes your temps are so good? You're having one of them delid CPUs? Also, 6700k or 7700k you have there? :D
     
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    My paste is coming Monday, I will apply it Monday, if I'm not tired, or Tuesday if Mondey I won't be able to.
     
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    I’m curious how those temps are so good too, even when I run my 7700k at 4.2 with 1.035V I hit 75c with the 1024 test, mind you it’s delidded and liquid metal from die all the way up to the heat sink


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    tbh i dunno, i never had CPU temp issues to begin with, i delidded the 6700k myself and used Conductonaut, my voltage is when stresstesting most of the times at about 1.2v which is quite good i noticed but on lower loads and or gaming it get's quite high 1.27-1.3v. Used only autofans too with that stresstest, but i have premamod so maybe that's why it's a bit cooler too due to the more aggressive fan curve, but it depends on CPU itself too i had a 3770k back then which was running @ 4ghz 95 °C instantly when using LinX, then i exchanged it to another one (which i have now) and was about 80 °C only (pre-delid) at 4.5ghz.

    Plus don't forget the ambient temps can make quite some impact, here in Austria it got quite cold already and my room temps are most of the times at about 19-21 °C + Heatsink gambling :D
     
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    I got a stuck screw... Aynbody knows how to deal with that?
     
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    Can you remove the screw at all, you've got to be careful with screws with semi-fine threads, you can cross- the threads easily, you could try a tiny drop of wd40 or similar and see if the screw comes loose, could also try muli-grips to grip the head of screw, you'll probably have to remove the remaining screws and start from scratch.

    Your better using a standard screwdiver after manually feeling for the thread, screw it slightly in the opposite direction until the screw drops into the top part of the thread and give it a couple of turns in the right direction and check that it's in correctly, then manually screw it in as far as needed before tightening the screws in the correct order. The screws should go in with the same tension as they came out, usually the only way to fix the hole is with the crrect size tap, if you can find longer scew with the same thread you can file a vee in the end to clean up the crossed thread.

    Hope this helps in some way, depends how much damage you've done. I wouldn't use a power driver until you know the screws started correctly.
     
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    quick question, the P775DM3-G with 1060 and the FHD 75hz Panel (LG?) does use the 30 pin EDP Cable right? Part Nr. 6-43-P7751-010-N
     
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    hello,

    do you have a download link to Clevo Control Center for P751 DM 2: v 5.0001.1.27 ?
     
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    Has anyone been having problems with Nvidia drivers as of late??
    The 1070 in my p750dm2 has been a power throttling pos since day one but it has gotten really bad the past few weeks. Used to settle around 1300-1400 but now I can run heaven and watch it work it’s way down from 1620 to around 250 in 3-5 minutes before black screening, throwing perfCap pwr pretty much the whole time.


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    Will using DDU in normal boot mode have any harmful affect on my system? I do not know but, is that the reason or the reason is i cleaned older driver without safe mode & updated driver the latest version then my gpu temp rises 85c. when in game & %100 use. Before this happens, my gpu temp goes around max 73-75c.
     
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    Have not noticed anything like that, but I would send it in for checking, some capacitors might have tried on the GPU...

    What you are experiencing is somewhat normal, those are pretty fair temps, if the load is high...
     
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    I mean somehow when i did fresh clean install the new nvidia driver with DDU, my gpu temp rises over to 80c. before that happens, the same high load it was goin up around 73-75.c (But another thing i updated my bios tho. do not know maybe that is the reason)
     
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    I am not sure how to help there :(

    I am not getting similar results, everything works fine for me...

    By the way, I've been struggling with the idea, but I might have to sell my P775. If anyone is interested in it, please let me know http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...tx1080-6700k-prema-bios.809773/#post-10615008

    I'd prefer to sell from Romania to Romania if possible...
     
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    Hi is anyone have colour profile for 4k screen AU Optronics B173ZAN01.0 ? original colors to strong and hurts my eyes .

    Thanks
     
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    I think you need a software or profile that maps the aRGB to sRGB rather than a color profile. I remember wanting to get an aRGB display, but having read about those issues, I gave up :confused:

    At the very least, I can give you this: https://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/U727.icm

    It is not made by me, but by the folks at Notebookcheck for this specific display, but they provide pretty fair color profiles and this should help you get colors back on track!
     
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    Thanks
    I manage to change colours using nvidia control panel and they for me now perfect :)
    Ill add screen shot with my settings may help others.
    Thanks
     

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    I am going to re-calibrate this weekend, will upload new version.
     
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    Another question is it hard to replace 4k screen to qhd or fhd 120 hz? and where i can get screen replacement in Europe? Are the cable are the same for 4k and qhd/fhd 120 hz?
    I found one of those and not sure if this is correct one
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-17-3-...Hz-/232331416175?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275
    my original screen is 4k screen AU Optronics B173ZAN01.0

    If anyone have 120 hz FHD/QHD fitted in Clevo P775DM3 can i have model number please ?
     
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    No, that is rather simple. The 4K, QHD 120Hz and FHD 120Hz screen require the same lcd cable.

    FHD 120Hz TN screen: ChiMei N173HHE-G32
    QHD 120Hz TN screen: AUO B173QTN01.0
     
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    What is your laptop model ? & let me see your gpu & cpu both temps if you can. thanks.
     
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    The last 2 Weeks i have massive Problems with Games. I tried several Drivers, Scan Windows for Problems, installed the Aniversary Update today, but nearly all Games crashes mostly with Black Screen. The Cooling System is clean. Got anybody same Problems? I uninstalled The 1080 from Hardware Manager and installed Driver that worked for Month. I‘m banned at Overwatch because of this **** :)
    My Rig:
    P775DM3-G
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    16Gb RAM
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    What are / were your temps?
     
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    GPU is at 90° in most Games. This is normal for my GPU and was never better at Full load(4K Gaming). But the Screen goes also black at 1080P and 60° in Overwatch for example :-(
    The CPU Temps are okay with 75-80°. Nothing is Oced.
     
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    GPU at 90C means it is not pasted well, you should either send it to where you bpought for tests, or test how much contact the heatsink makes.
     
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    Last Time i send it to my Reseller, they found nothing and when it come back to me it Works Fine. Maybe it was an Windows Update in the past or something else. Maybe they think im stupid :)
    When i play Games everything works fine. No graphic bugs an then Boom black screen. I wait 1 or 2 Weeks until i send it to my reseller. Whats funny too, is the fact that the screen goes also black in 1080p with much lower Temps(55-60c).
     
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    Georgel u are maybe right. I tested 1080p with limited Frames etc to lower the temperature. And the Games dont crash longer with Blackscreen for now. So it seems to be a cooling Problem :-( What temps are realistic with my 6600K and GTX 1080 when i repaste my RIg? Is it very dangerous, i dont want to send my Rig to my reseller again....i need to work with my System and i have many expirience with desktop PCs, Watercooling CPU, Titan X etc pp.
     
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    I think my little son broke the ethernet port of my p775dm3-g
    He is taking his first steps and i was a bit careless by letting the cable laying around connected to the laptop. He stumbled over it and pulled it out of the connection port.
    Trank god nothing happend to him.
    Now the patch cable doesnt hold to it anymore...
    Its definitely the port, cause i also swapped out the cable.
    Could some1 take a close up picture of the ethernet port please and post it here, so i can look up whats broken and try to fix it?
     
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    1080 should hover around 60 C - 70 C

    CPU should reach about 80 or 70 C max, 6600K is pretty cold compared to me 6700K or other CPUs.

    I wouldn't think that the mechanical parts are borken, but rather the electronics inside, judging from what you describe...
     
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    Electronics are fully functional. I already checked this
     
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    Oh, I see

    I'll take some photos and post tomorrow, if somebody else doesn't beat me to it!
     
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    Ok good news. I repaste this Beast and now its Dead! Its my Mistake okay, but this Systems went wrong from the first day. One 1080 crashes after one Week, the new one get 90 degree all the time, and last two weeks every Game crashes. I give this system the death okay, but im not sure to buy another better System. I came from Alienware and i think about to buy it again. When i buy a new 1080 for my Clevo, who knows it is running 90 degree again and die again after 6 Month. 1080 and 4K i think it is too Hardcore to work well in a Notebook.
    I dont know what went wrong at my repasting, the CPU runs over 10 degree cooler, but the GPU does not get a good contact too the Heathink. I remounted 3 Times and it crashed in Overtwatch at 85 degrees with a click and since then the screen is black :(
     
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    Are you working with your reseller?
     
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    This is what I'd recommend. That unit should go back to the reseller and they should fix those issues, this sounds like a pretty skewed experience overall.
     
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    U are right of course. I thought i can do it maybe better then the reseller, and im not fully wrong with my thoughts. The therlmal paste on the gpu was 30% dry out. Hard like Stone. My repaste was not a bad idea, but i think the thermal pads were the problem. There was not enough pressure on the GPU.

    I think i sent it to my reseller and ask for installing a new 1070. i hope this is the best option. Less power consumption and less ghermal throttling should not be so much lower the speed i think. And a 1070 is nearly half the price of a 1080.
     
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    The pad fit and paste job both have to be good for proper thermal performance.
     
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    Yes i know, i remount 3 Times the Heathink, because the contact to the GPU was not good. So i decided to take thermal Pads which have contact, but not much pressure. I controlled if there are negative Form of the Transistors etc. Minimal pressure but contact. Nothing worked very well. The GPU Contact was not good enough. The mount system of the GPU is so flexible, i think it should be harder like the CPU mount system. Ok its a GPU without heatspreader but its not perfect.
    I send the System to my reseller, and they look at my system. Maybe its Warranty. This would be very kind of them. Hope i have luck :)
     
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    You do need to look at the pads on the CPU side too.
     
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    So here is an interesting turn of events. A little while ago I posted about my GPU clocks going into a death spiral under heavy load, well I just reinstalled windows after having a problematic interaction between some of the development software I use and the Fall Creators Update. Poof, death spiral gone. I'm just going to assume it was some sort of registry bug or power table corruption, just happy I don't have to send my laptop in.
     
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    Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
     
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