Not really due to the plug design, the dual PSU adapter adds a little bit on the brick side but most people extend it to the brick.
Part of the problem is extending a 12V cable running 30 amps means the gauge of the wire has to jump pretty quick.
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Vincent-Xavier Chaffron Notebook Enthusiast
Okay, thank you for your answer.
I just bought a USB-C secondary monitor, the ASUS MB169C+.
It works flawlessly when connected to a MacBook Pro, without any extra drivers, but impossible to get it to work on my P775DM3-G.
Installing ASUS MultiFrame didn't help since the display is not recognized by the laptop.
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Have you followed page 1-24 of your manual to get the displayport running on the thunderbolt port? The regular USB ports do not run displayport over USB3.0 so it's effectively directly connected to the GPU.
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Vincent-Xavier Chaffron Notebook Enthusiast
Even better, I have returned it. Thanks for the help anyway.
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The Macs have to do this otherwise they would not have any outputs. -
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Is it changing from insertion to insertion? It can obviously go very loud if you max it out.
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My bigger question is whether I can safely uninstall CCC. I don't use any of the "features" except to turn off my keyboard lights and map 6 keys (which can be done with AutoHotkey). The amp problem behaves similar to the other issues I'm experiencing with the power profile switching to hibernate from sleep and the keymapping only working intermittently. All it's done is trip the system up. -
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So it is adapting to each device plugged in and being consistent, I would just be careful of levels as you plug in since that is the design of the amp to optimise the range obviously headphones can vary a lot.
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Do you know whether uninstalling CCC would be detrimental to my hardware? I'm fine managing all of the features it offers via Windows, etc. I've read other threads where uninstalling CCC adversely affects native fan management. I've not touched any of the fan profiles or overclock settings. -
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Isn't that a proprietary dock for lumia phones?
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on P775DM3-G it only usb port work, HDMI and DP port not work
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I spotted a few signatures here with our laptops and 7700K. I thought it was not supported. Am I missing something?
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P751DM2-G with 8700k and 1070 from Obsidian incoming!
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Is there a P870T thingy with 8700K thread >?
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the i7 7700k have Max # of PCI Express Lanes is 16
so GTX 1080 use PCIEx 16x with 16 lanes
if i have 2x nvme use 2x4 = 8 lanes
@@. when i have 2 nvme ssd, GTX 1080 only run on 8 lanes, is that right ?
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(i find them on BIOS)
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Be careful with 19.3.4.72 touchpad drivers, SYNTP.sys BSOD on Windows 10
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http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/synaptics-causes-bsod-on-p650se.770938/page-16#post-10235938 -
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
When we deal with hardware we built we know what to expect and it´s easy to do a remote connection and give support.
For instance, some while back our OBSIDIAN TOOLS app would allow you to automatically apply our pre-made CPU profile, and well, this did not go well.
Our profile for a CPU like the 7700K is a good base for OUR builds, because we always do our set of mods like Delid, Liquid Metal, Cooler gap correction if needed, disabled XTU in BIOS, etc. Well, the the same profile, while on our units would give perfect temperatures, on most re-sellers it would throttle like crazy. This made users write complaints to their re-sellers, and caused a "sensible" situation.
Same thing with the Ultimate Version license we have for our app, i´m sorry to say this, but a lot of people pay 60€ for our app and for having our team connect to their unit to make a TS CPU profile, and most of the times it ends up with "I´m sorry but this laptop is useless, you need to service it or do a repaste..." Do not get me wrong we have also seen amazing work from some re-sellers the problem is the HUGE amount of scary awful work from others, and that´s why i usually take it with a grain of salt when someone just blames "CLEVO".
On one hand i could not care less if this makes other re-seller "unhappy" because they have to deal with client complaints, but on the other hand it makes it REALLY hard for us to have to support all this users that then come to us dozens of times and for many hours of online chat so that we can help them (our structure is not big enough to deal with all this), in the past we even accepted non-clients to send laptops for a re-assembly.
As things stand we need to be realistic, my lack of capability to properly manage time is costing me way too much, now on the second year with a total of two weeks vacations and always arriving home around 21:00... i just cant deal with with all that comes with releasing/developing stuff for other re-sellers, the drivers app is as far as i can go.
Sorry for the long post but i get so many messages and emails with similar questions and requests for help that i just decided to make a proper text.
TL;DR? Short answer: No, our structure is not big enough to allow us to support non-clients with anything else besides our already available drivers app.Dennismungai, Kelvin2k5, a.Techie and 3 others like this. -
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I think you have struck a good balance at this point John
We all want to try to be helpful to the community but reach too far and you tend to get burned.
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No seller would service a laptop sold by another seller, for service and temp improvements, no?
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How are the temps and overclocking on our machines with 7700K?
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That depends on the chip and the frequencies and voltage you are hitting.
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I have sager np9172 and with stock paste I have to run at -142 and 4.2 to keep it under 90c when gaming and that's on a u3 and overclock fan profile.
I can run 45, 44, 44, 44, -126 but it runs at 100c easy when gaming on u3 and overclock profile.
I can use max fans and get it down some but it's obnoxiously loud.
Long story short I have 0 overclock ability with my laptop unless I run it inside a refrigerator with ear plugs in.
I might delid eventually but it's still under warranty and my job bought it for me. I'm thinking of getting a processor from silicon lottery already delided and repaste sometime next year.
My gpu I can overclock some and keep around 80c but just does not seem worth the risk at this point. Every game I throw at it runs fine at highest settings and 4k and the render engine I work on runs fine without oc.
Hopefully that helps some... Oh and my Samsung pcie runs around 90c often for temperature 2, cooling and this machine is a joke but I still think this is an amazing laptop. I'm currently running 3 4k monitors with it and a 1440 portrait for code and it runs fine other than temps and even with those it does not throttle much. -
Any body tell me, Please!
How can I enable "GPIO3 Force Pwr" for thunderbotli can find any option for that on BIOS
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Get a mini-DP to DisplayPort cable (if your selected external monitor doesn't support mini-DP input).
Extra notes:
1. To output 1080p content at 144Hz, you typically use a dual link DVI-D cable or, in your case, a DisplayPort cable. You can also use a HDMI 1.3 or higher cable. Running 1080p content at 144Hz can be a very demanding task. Contrary to popular belief, a standard HDMI 1.2 cable cannot be used to output 144Hz 1080p content on a monitor.
2. For 2D viewing – which is what almost all gamers mean when they want “ 120Hz” (As is the case with NVIDIA 3D Vision and AMD's stereoscopic technology, HD3D) – HDMI 1.4b is stuck at just 60Hz for 1080p. It is possible for 1080p to be supported at 120Hz on HDMI 2.0; unfortunately, very few solutions on-market are capable of actually utilizing this potential.
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What version of the Clevo BIOS are you running? Stock, or Prema's?
If you're on stock, the best way to overcome that limitation would be to plug in a Thunderbolt 3 device to either port of the machine and then proceed with the Thunderbolt Firmware update process.
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Should you use any other method of enabling the "GPIO 3 Force Pwr" setting, be it through the BIOS (stock or modded), ensure that you leave the setting disabled when you're done with the firmware update. Leaving it on bypasses the Thunderbolt security levels and makes the system vulnerable to DMA attacks. -
For one, your system does not utilize the integrated GPU in any way.
Your GPU (The Pascal-based GM10-series) already meets these requirements (PlayReady 3.0) with a recent driver update.
What you should be concerned with is enabling Intel's SGX in your BIOS settings as the Netflix's DRM module is dependent on it on Windows 10. You can find that setting under Processor Features in the BIOS menu. And stick to Microsoft's Edge browser for that particular purpose.steberg likes this. -
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Being forced to use edge is like going to the cinema but being forced to hold a wet fish through it.
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Recently my 1 year old P775DM3-G with 6700k and GTX has been noticably hotter while playing games. The current peak while playing Overwatch on low settings at 120hz is 90 degrees (both GPU and CPU). I already cleaned the fans from dust (removing the bottom cover), to no avail. Might this be a driver problem, something related to the fans or should I look into doing a repaste?
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First clean it with compressed air, a repaste may not be needed. Just make sure to be careful not to spin the fans by either removing them or holding them still.
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I don't wanna do it for any firmware, I'm try to enable it ( always like my previous laptop Tornado F5 Thunderbolt always on at boots).
I want Usb 3.1 controller alway ready without plug device.
On Clevo P775DM3-G the USB 3.1 controller only run when have device plug in, do you know that ?.
I think we no need any custom BIOS. P775DM3-G use ami ver 5 BIOS, extract current BIOS i have the variable address of GPIO3 Force Pwr on BIOS. So easy way to set it by EFI Shell
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And form extract string of BIOS, i can see option use intel HD graphic, can choise primary graphics on that. and all standar option of Z170 motherboard.
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And about BIOS modding, should you take the plunge: The #1 rule in all this is, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
Knowing how to "mod" a BIOS and actually doing it right are not the same thing. It's why we have @Prema .
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2. Read my last comment again please ! i'm not moding or flash mod BIOS, EFI shell is not mod tool, you can research about it.
with efi shell to set variable, all variable will be reset to default when unplug CMOS battery.
3. again : i'm not modinf or flash mod BIOS.
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