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He probably mean Vat. A lot of countries have high taxes. Eg Norway = +25% on top of everything you purchase over $35 on web shops. But you know this It's often much cheaper to buy same computers home. But spare parts is very expensive.

 

I don't think they can get away with higher VAT just now as anyone who supported leave would then guarantee they loose their next election.

 

i don't know why the UK would leave the EU with the US threat of being thrown to the end of the line when it comes to who they deal with.

 

Really?, you can re-read what you wrote and not glean the smallest bit of insight as to why the UK left the EU?

You answered your own question, in your question; nicely stated, compact and directly to the point

 

put it this way: i am not politically-minded.

either way it's kinda getting off topic really.

 

OK, i have taken the plunge and purchased the Metabox Prime-X P870DM-G with the 1080p g-sync screen and a GTX 980 with g-sync. Hopefully i'll get a response on monday.

Looking forward to having a desktop skylake and a desktop 980

now to figure out what to do with the alienware 17!

 

You may very well change your sig now!! Good choice

 

better late than never!

EDIT: sig updated.

 

Shouldn't the screen in your sig be more like (1080p75)?

 

I dunno... Maybe?

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75HZ

 

NICE! Welcome to the club, Brother @thegh0sts. Congrats on the beast. I have to say this is my favorite laptop out of all that I have ever owned. If the chassis were made of anodized aluminum like the M18xR1/R2 it would be perfect in my opinion. But, the plastic is a small sacrifice considering how great everything else is. You're going to love it. Super easy to work on, too. You can clean the heat sink radiators or repaste the CPU/GPU and access all of the RAM modules and drives with almost no effort.

Unless you want to go the razor blade route like I did on my last 3 CPU de-lids, you might want to grab one of these along with some CLU so you can overclock the bejeezus out of the 6700K with great temps. (I ordered one even though I don't need it now, LOL... should be delivered on Monday.)

Rockit 88 - Intel CPU Delid Tool

I won't have an opportunity to use mine until I need to, but @TBoneSan ordered one and he will be using it to de-lid his 6700K. I'm sure he will be happy to share how that went with us.

 

De-liding can give pretty good results, but just be careful on doing it. Also, you may want to look in to see how that affects the warranty on your computer. Hopefully you'll love the computer when it arrives though.

 

I never get a high performance machine you can't open and easily service.

 

THIS. We have had 2 people who ruined their 6700k's, by being impatient and not paying attention.

 

DERP.

 

Modding always requires care and attention.

 

not sure about delidding.

 

I did razor blade on Haswell. What I say, if you are uncomfortable or worried about warranty, don't do it!

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is it standard practice of clevo to use CLU? there's no mention of thermal paste used on the site.

 

NO! CLU is only put on by resellers! Never by clevo or most distributors, which would be a mod from the factory.

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what's so good about CLU over say gelid extreme type of thermal compounds?

 

Couple degrees C. If delidded and clu in both, you can get 10-20 C headroom you didn't have before, depending on heat sink fit, concavity of ihs, etc. If you don't have a tight fit, go with regular tim. If you delid, use CLU between die and ihs. If the reseller offers delid and clu, take it unless you plan on lapping to flat, as they are guaranteeing if it fries something, they'll fix it (unless they put a carve out in the warranty, which may or may not be able to be waived, i'd have to read the provision to be sure and applicable laws of the jurisdiction).

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hmmm....probably won't be delidding it then if it isn't delidded already.

 

What country or region are you in? For example HIDevo is offering silicon lottery delidded cpu, but they limit cpu failure replacement compared to other components. I believe they may do clu, too, and are a prema partner.

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Advanced users only really otherwise you get a dead chip.

 

sounds fair. though general repasting should be ok?

 

Non-conductive paste, some resellers will allow it, others will not because you could do damage if you don't know what you are doing, so they don't want to warrant your mistakes. But, it is hard to tell if you did it right. Ask your reseller first before doing the maintenance, including repasting, to find out the effect on your warranty.

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ok, cos i want to keep using my gelid extreme if i need to do a repaste but will ask the reseller

EDIT: good to know that skylake is a pinless setup now so i shouldn't fear about bending pins on the cpu like before.

 

Unless reseller has applied ICD already... Buy ICD and apply when you get the machine. Would not used anything other than this, except Liquid metal.
And some users in the forum have already bend the pins in the cpu socket. Be careful

Edit... Read @Mr. Fox nice review of Sky X9 https://biosmods.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/sky-x9/5/
Expect this temp results, if the Heatsink is in ok condition. The temp result will be worse, with a standard good paste or crooked/warped heatsink!!

 

The pins are now on the motherboard, you have to watch those when inserting the cpu.

 

My chip need a good delidding. Right now 4.3 is about as far I can go in the current conditions.

 

What is max temp if you already have tried Wprime 1024/Cinbench? ICD the stock paste?

 

Hi there all....

May i know.. if taking the 4k screen is worth it? Does it have a big difference on gaming, watching movies and doing some microsoft office works vs the non 4k.. whats the main benefit?

 

It is pricey if done by a reseller. You can do it yourself for much cheaper if you want.

I would think for a normal user, who doesn't require the higher resolution for specific tasks, would be fine with the 1080 panel which has a higher refresh rate than the 4k. I think it can come with 75hz and many can be overclocked much further.

I do enjoy playing the games I can at 4k, and gsync helps make more games work at an acceptable framerate. It was worth the extra cost to me so when I switch back and forth between my desk with an external 4k display, and the built in display, I don't have to mess with all my game settings each time. I always prefer my internal and external be the same resolution and refresh(and both gsync).

 

Until recently, I had never de-lidded a CPU before. That became popular long after I had switched to laptops and mobile processors. I have done it three times within about 8 months and each time it turned out perfectly. It makes a huge improvement, overclocked nor not, and I would recommend everyone do it. It should only affect the warranty on the CPU, but still worth it. I would still do it if doing so voided the warrant on the whole machine.

 

Wow thanks for the reply.. really appreciate it... and yeahh.... i saw on ebay they are selling 4k screens for p870d really cheap like 200+ dollars... aight.. understood what i should do now hehe.. and.. im wondering if the swift rog 34" 21:9 screen is actually 4k or what kind of K is it.. im really noob at resolution.. ahhh

 

I do have the cable for sale here : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-40-pin-4k-edp-cable-for-clevo-p870dm-g.790469/

Its the cheapest available anywhere. And the displays are going for around $150 on eBay.

 

Thanks man.. ive screen shoted it.. and save it well.. definately buying it after getting my laptop... and may i know something.. im really a newbie in this... whats with prema vbios? And the normal bios which the reseller dont have? Whats the difference? If the reseller is not prema partner... can i install it on my own?

 

Prema BIOS is basically a the unlocked BIOS with a lot of under the hood tweaks. Gives you a lot of options to OC the processor and change a lot of advanced setting that stock BIOS wont let you.
For now its only available through re sellers that are Prema Partners.

 

Wow okay thanks... ill make sure to ask the Malaysian illegear reseller about it.. hope they have it.. but if they dont.. the only option i have is to go for the prema partners resellers ahhh that is suks.. the postage is a bomb...

 

Let me get back to you on that chief. Yeah I had been doing a little trouble shooting up to now. I've changed the paste already. Trying out JunPus X1.. Until my delidder arrives, then the metal will go on .

 

Interesting to see how this paste is compared to ICD @Mr. Fox first tested under the review of Sky X9. Try the most important benchmarks he benched. How is the consistency of this paste? And what paste was it on cpu first time?


Try also with XTU. But don't make an Xtu profile

Spoiler: Stock paste and stock settings from Mr. Fox's review of Sky X9

 

Just did a few runs of wPrime at current setting so you can see where I'm at.

32M 5.856 sec @ 4.3
Temps 90-95 with full fans
Ambient temps 30 degree's Celsius

XTU.. ew.. yeah.. OK. Not happy with using XTU much these days. I think that's what helped goof up my BIOS up until I did a CMOS reset. Brother @Mr. Fox coincidently had a similar thing happen to him.
I did do a bench yesterday and got 1300 @ 4.3 with some heavy
thermal throttling.

All early days yet. I'm totally thermally limited right now until this lid comes off. Especially since the weather is very hot and humid here now.
Question to anyone - I'm curious .. Taking my current ambient temps into account - Were you this thermally challenged prior to your delid ?

That JunPus X1 is pretty much a placeholder paste until Liquid Ultra goes on .It's the first time I've seen it. I had quick google before I bought it and it seemed decent enough. They claim it's a diamond compound, but it's consistency was about that of Gelid / AS4. It will probably do the trick for GPU's down the road unless I'm really thermally challenged.

Nothing is going to impress me anymore going on a CPU when compared to Metal. I'm not too sure what TIM was on before, but it was about as good as this JunPus X1. I actually wanted more Gelid but they were sold out.

 

Damn that's hot. Keep us posted once you delid.

But with ambient around 20C in SF, my 4.6Ghz would top out at 73C using Kryonaut. Here in LA i hit around 78C-80C.(ambient around 27C-30C)

 

30 degrees ambient is very much if you bench in this temp . Try to compare results with the review of Sky X9 with stock paste, clock speed and ambient temp. Ask @Mr. Fox how high the ambient temp was when he tested. Not sure he remembers it now https://biosmods.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/sky-x9/3/

32M 5.856 sec @ 4.3 is a way too low score for 4.3 GHz. Is it throttling due to high temperature or something else?

I've never tested my machine without liquid metal. I delidded and switched to Clu once I opened the package of my machine .
And Yeah. Dont make a OC profile in XTU

Edit. Did you remove the black covers on the bottom lid? If not. Do it.

 

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I actually contacted Metabox a couple of weeks ago asking if they could provide @Prema sBios/vBios and never got a reply. I've since placed and order (and it is in "Production Q&A" status... thinking I'd just have to forgo the extra benefits, as I wanted a local warranty machine after previous problems shipping an Alienware back to the USA for service).

Did you have to specifically ask for the @Prema bios to be installed or is it something they do by default?

I've again sent them a message asking if it is an option they can apply before they ship it and what extra cost etc, but again not heard back yet.

 

What sort of scores were you seeing with that. I'm discovering Skylake isn't so picky about voltages..at least when it comes to crashing. Too much it just gets too hot. Too little it seems to gimp performance rather than BSOD.
eg. I can run 4.6 and see similar temps but it doesn't increase my score. 4.3 seems almost right. I can probably shave off a little voltage.

Thottling is due to high temps. What sort of score should I be seeing for 4.3ghz?
Like you I'm not too keen on trying to chase numbers without liquid metal. I'll have my delidder any day now. If temps are high after that it might possibly be a crappy Heatsink.

 

i specifically left instructions when placing the order and the name of the rep i was in contact with.

 

Did it cost you any extra on top of the standard Metabox order?