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    *** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by NordicRaven, Sep 22, 2015.

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    Wrong posting, please delete!
     
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    Where on your site can this be found? I'm not that fond of reading through the whole Terms of Use. ;)

    And I wasn't able to figure out what the meaning of your second Statement was about?

    Agreed on that one! No offense intended....
     
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    Bravo

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G935F mit Tapatalk
     
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    Is that German, or English? :D
     
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    International

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    Italian, actually... for Bold, or Brave. And, you are correct :cool:
     
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    Heh come on guys its not that hard to follow what he has said.
     
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    For you maybe :)

    This is the one I had problems with:
    Would you please elaborate / clarify what he said for us?
     
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    It might do very tiny scratches, but it isn't anything that really affects performance or voids warranty (I know people have brought that up before that it will void a CPU warranty, it doesn't). Overall, it is one of the better pastes that is out there, and consistently shows up as recommend by people on the forums here.

    There are no differences in the different carat versions as mentioned, just the size of the tube.
     
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    oh and I thought the more carats the better so I went for full bling bling version! :D
     
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    Iv pretty much moved on from not liking the keyboard. It's the least of my worries. It's only a keyboard... hasn't made or broken my experience at at. Right with you on that!
     
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    Hater.

    Just did, not even a single mention of CLU.
     
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    That is from 2012, around when CLP started becoming popular, even then what they mention is about it "resembling" solder. I haven't seen any case where CLU has solidified and bonded 2 surfaces.

    Early Liquid PRO had a few kinks to be worked out, Liquid ULTRA however has had no issues, unless some one royally ****s up during the application.

    Also the comment you are referring to, says that it being close to solder is a good thing, also it solidifies only at really low temperatures, im not sure where he is drawing his conclusion of CLU/CLP solidifying at high temperatures. I personally haven't read or heard of any such cases. Maybe a certain batch ?

    I am using it on my GPU right now, and have had it on my CPU die for a quite a few months now. No issues what so ever, and same for the others using it here.
     
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    That comment is more about Coolaboratory Liquid **Pro**, which is different from Coolaboratory Liquid **Ultra**.

    I cannot say to what happens if the viscosity of the material changes over time, but I think I've seen most ppl say they will repaste the CLU every 12 months or so if it loses its heat transferability properties. I'm uncertain what those who've delidded, applied CLU between CPU and IHS, and then applied adhesive to re-seat the IHS will do. I don't think they've had the CPU delidded for that period of time to know what will happen. In June 2017, things might become more clear.
     
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    I wonder how long it takes to go from order initiated to production & QA with metabox?

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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    My little beast massively thermal cycles the material and it has had no issues.
     
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    Mine took 2 days to go from initiated to production. It was supposed to ship Monday but I contacted them Mon morning and asked for the @Prema bios to be installed, and they pushed it back to today as they are waiting for @Prema to come back from holidays. As of today but they're still waiting for @Prema to send them the updated sBios and vBios files so they can flash my already completed laptop and ship it. They just updated my expected shipping date to 4/07/2016, so if you're waiting for the same sBios/vBios yours will probably be the same.
     
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    What is a good core/voltage setting for 980m
     
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    They said mine was still on track for July 5th but we'll have to see about that.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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    I don't talk about KRYONAUT!!! CONDUCTONAUT bro :) Only Liquid metal for me :D
     
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    conducto who? :D LOL :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah I know :D Therefore I go with Liquid metal :p I don't touch other thermal paste... ICD is the best choice for warped/uneven heatsink!! Or go for CLU Liquid Metal thermal pads.
     
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    Actually, if the heatsink is making good contact, Kryonaut behaves similar to ICD from what I experienced so far. Using it since two months for comparison purposes on my wife's rig, no decrease in heat dissipation until now! *knocking on wood*
     
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    After my temps were great with IC Diamond, I tried Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and the temps went up by 10C and I couldn't even keep my 4.6 GHz. overclock stable
     
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    Did you have a warped heatsink at that time? Kryonaut is not so sticky, in fact very fluidly, and i presume using it on crappy heatsinks results in crappy temps much like CLU on warped heatsinks.

    On my Panther I never would use Kryonaut only ICD because of that!
     
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    The difference between a good paste an a bad one is if you push processor over 100w and lifespan.Push Hotwell and you know what I mean :D why choose the second one? :oops: 3 days with benching and all other thermal paste is a BIG waste!! I love benching and need the best you can get :cool:
     
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    anyone know how to set up a custom fan curve? im trying to get my Gpu fan to hit 100% after 75c..i have prema mod
     
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    i would just run at 100% all the time.

    the more my order sits at 'order initiated' the more i get sad. :p
     
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    double post.
     
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    My first heatsink was a warped one but the replacement heatsink was much better. It's too thin I knew I wouldn't like it as I was applying it, I had a feeling it wouldn't make great contact like IC Diamond.

    Did you try IC Diamond with the X Cross application method? That's what I'm using and it's given me the best results.

    [​IMG]
     
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    So..Do you think if my 980m is having trouble at +250 on core with 62+ mv it cant handle more? Maybe ill have to stick with 200..
     
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    X-cross is the best method for desktop cpu's imo. Have ever done so!
     
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    Where can i find 980m overclocking? sorry to bother..but its the last thing i gotta figure out! heh..
     
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    You have to find the sweet spot for yourself. Every card behaves differently.

    Just raise core voltage until you got freezes or BSOD's and then raise voltage for another 12,5mv, until you get no further.
    After your highest stable oc on core dial back for 50mhz and do the same for memory.
     
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    Is there any way to make a custom fan curve?
     
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    Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut and Phobya Liquid Metal and Coollaboratory Liquid Pro are excellent products and all work just as well as Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra in terms of cooling. However, the only one I continue to use and recommend is Liquid Ultra because the others are very thin and watery, and I have already seen evidence of their not staying where I put them. All three of them have "run" outside the boundaries of the CPU IHS and/or GPU die. If there is nothing nearby to be affected, or you have the danger zones covered with silicon or varnish, no big deal. I just don't like the remote possibility of something going wrong. In contrast, Liquid Ultra actually has a decent viscosity to it, slightly creamy, easier to apply, and it has never once moved from where I placed it on any of my laptops.
     
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    Yeah It's not very wise to put on more Liquid metal like Grizzly or Phobya on your cpu/gpu if you don't get the temperature drops you expect from first application.
     
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    Basically CLU is the IC Diamond for Liquid Metal! ;)
     
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    Please post your question here bro but not directed at me as I don't have much experience with the 980M overclocking. Just post there and other members will help:

    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge
     
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    It needs a more careful hand that's for sure! Contact pattern checking etc is advised.
     
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    Starting to get a bit nervous now.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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    Does anyone know where i can buy a second 330w adapter and where this power converter is to combine both adapters for 600w?
     
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    I think that most Clevo resellers should be selling both adaptors and converter boxes. You should check, depending on region, with your local reseller, or stores like HIDevolution (EVOC), XoticPC, XMG, Sager, ClevoCenter, TEKadvice, etc.
     
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    I bought mine from HIDEvolution, I was assisted by @Ted@HIDevolution :) They were very helpful. The converter costs $65 and the 330W adapter is $185.

    Regards,
    Mark
     
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    Any Clevo seller should be able to provide that. There can be a wide range of prices for the same part depending on where you buy it. On anything that is a standard service part, and especially universal fit pieces that span many years and models, do some comparison shopping to find the best deal you can. This 330W AC adapter has been around for a long time. Prices should be lower than it typically is sold for after this many years of being in production. HIDevolution is a great choice.
     
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    okay thanks..And question, i have my 6700k at 4.5ghz, and it does throttle abit due to me only having a 330 adapter, now could this be a reason why my 980m is having trouble overclocking..I did an overclock as simple as 150mhz on core and 200 mem, with small voltage increase, and during 3dmark stress test it will end up making my screen black sometimes where i have to power off... I assume its power, cause i have not let the 980m get damaged by heat according to an andtech review the 980m can hit 180w on stock settings and over 200w with OC and voltage increases
     
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    No, single 330W AC adapter is more than enough for what you're doing. It takes a pretty insane CPU and GPU overclock to exhaust the 330W adapter and when it does the machine turns off, not throttle. The black screen is either the GPU is getting too hot or it is being pushed beyond its safe functional limit, or both. It can also be caused by using excessive voltage that overheats other components even though the core itself is not too hot. The CPU throttling can be a retarded Intel power balance thing (which will be remedied by ThrottleStop), overheating (thermal throttling) or using wrong overclock settings (too much voltage or amps/watts set too low).
     
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