*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

You'd do better leaving enough parts in the P870DM laptop to make it sell-able and get your money back. Buy a nice new CPU, and if it clocks better keep that one.

 

No I get everything back I get my old chassis back to sell... They don't keep anything I'm basically buying 2 1080s and a chassis/screen motherboard. They do all the switching testing stressing etc. The move all the stuff over that can be reused. I'll just sell the rest... again I don't know when I'll do it but at least the option is there.

 

Fair enough. I prefer doing that part myself, but I can understand the value of not wanting to do it!

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Isnt Sager able to arrange things for you? For purchase i mean.

 

@Firebat246

Mythlogic probably wants to do the build and make sure it's supportable under their warranty - assuming you transfer your warranty over too

But, it does sound like you could just buy a complete new laptop, and swap the RAM/storage yourself so you have a working P870DM computer to sell.

You are getting another CPU and basic RAM/storage to sell a working P870DM?

 

Oh they they stressed to me how much they want to test the balls off the machine with how much power it's going to require. Thermals etc... I'd much rather have that level of QA like I did before.

 

It's not that long I have been directly with them

 

so i guess this thread is dead?

 

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Doesn't look too dead to me, many people keep their laptops and post about them even after there is a newer model, sometimes even years after. Although, obviously there is not as many posts now as new the newer model since the newer model has more hype, etc.

 

I feel like some of you: owning a P 870 DM-G, bought from EVOC six weeks ago, and it's old-fashioned already...

Even a single 980 GTX, the 2 x 330 W power unit, 2 x SM951 Raid 0, Prema Bios for CPU+GPU, an i7 6700K @ 4.5 Ghz on all cores and 32 Gb of Hyper X DDR4 @ 2666 Mhz are largely enough for my current needs, and nicely capable of running all games on the market now...

I feel privileged to own this machine but maybe, in the future, i could have 2 options:

- change the motherboard to fit 2 x 1080 SLI and the screen to go 120 Hz
- buy a new model

I'm blessed with what i have ( even if i feel a little fuc.ed by the quick release of the DM-3... )

It is human nature to desire, and such quest in the technology field is like trying to catch the wind: a never ending story.

 

I think a single 1080 will be doable with some effort. A single 1070 might be fairly simple too.

 

Well the problem would be sourcing the heatsink

 

Which heatsink?

 

The new t-shaped one or the previous one is compatible?

 

New T-Shaped. The card is different in shape this time around.

 

I was hoping that @Meaker@Sager would say that it is backwards compatible

 

An MSI card would need to re-purpose your existing heatsink. The 1080 T shape for the clevo 1080 will hit into the secondary fan position due to the different spacing of the mxm slots with the whole heatsink shifted which will cause alignment issues.

 

Thanks. By chance do you have a picture of the MSI one? Does it also need a hardmod to work inside the P870DM?

 

Check Prema's thread over at the tech inferno forums.

 

I only found the 1070 though. If the PCBs are the same, then that would be great

 

i am curious as to this!

 

I know it must a weird feeling having such a powerful laptop and yet also being able to consider it slightly out of date. All this new technology that NVIDIA is coming out with is cool and would be great to upgrade to if you could, but then at the same time your laptop is just as powerful as most gaming desktops, and way more powerful than the average desktop. NVIDIA has certainly put a lot of people in some weird situations.

 

Kinda, until there is more news on possible upgrades. I mean, even the other thread about the Phoenix 2, moves a bit off topic, since most people there don't even have a machine to pry open and experiment with.

 

@HTWingNut does! i've seen his vids and he could totally do a seating test of the card and heatsink and prove definitively that the parts don't fit or do fit.

 

I doubt he still has his original 870DM test unit to try that on. He also states in his current video that his DM3 is a demo unit that will be sent back to be sold.

 

Can a P870DM3 MOBO fit into a P870DM chassis?

If so, what are the prospects of just buying a new MOBO, along with a new 1080 and HSF? Are all three of those things sold individually?

Or are the internals all situated differently too, so far as chassis moldings and whatnot.

 

He added those earlier today i think. check it out.

The MSI cards seem to be much more robust than the CLEVO ones, but will require a fully custom heatsink.

EDIT : Check out Kenglish's post. He has shed some light on the power phases.

 

Not that weird, you're still paying extra for the mobility of a laptop even with the performance being the same.

 

Very true, but we didn't pay $3000+ just to be left stranded and cut off from future upgrades. Which really wasn't exactly the case before this. This time around they seem to have made that extra effort to lock out upgrades.

 

Not sure if the physical 'placement' has moved, but yes ports are different (off top of my head at least one TB3 was changed from USB 3.1). Might still work with a Dremel Tool

 

Will a prema biosed P870DM(G) with single 980 work if I bought a new single 1080 with the new heatsink?
Will it even fit without any mods? especially the new heatsink.
Also will the system recognise the 1080?

 

The heatsink won't fit and the card needs to be hard modded at a minimum to think it's getting an EC signal, I believe.

 

The Big SLI heatsink wont fit, but the new T-Shape heat sink will. Though you will need EC mods to get the card to work.

 

Actually, the MXM slot was shifted slightly, I believe, so the new heatsink would fit but not be properly aligned. The new 1060-1080 PCB won't physically fit in the new chassis either, according to @Mr. Fox.

 

The new heatsink accounts for that.
And the PCB will fit just fine because there is a lot of space on the left. Just not possible to have 2 of them.

 

I believe he was talking about the single GPU use case, but I could be mistaken.

I also don't get what you mean by accounts for that. The new slots are shifted relative to the radiators, which means that unless you're physically deforming the heat pipes, either the radiators will be offset or the contact surfaces.

 

The new FANs are smaller...at least compared to the old Master FAN.

 

Yeah, Prema also mentioned that the new heat sink fits the old P870DM-G and the contact surfaces are shifted to the left to account for the MXM slot displacement. And same thing for the card, 1060/1070/1080 fit just fine along with the T-Heat Sink from the DM2. The top of the old heat sink for the 980 200W is pretty much the same (and positioned similarly), bottom half has changed to fit the 1080.

 

Okay, I really must be missing something. If the new heatsink is designed for the MXM slot being shifted, what happens when you try to use it on a board where the MXM slot isn't shifted...? Unless the radiators are also shifted by the same amount, in which case I had a mistaken understanding of the layout of the DM2/3.

If @Prema says it's doable though, I'll defer to him on the matter.

 

Didn't someone here have the new DM3 and the original DM1? I'd be great if they tried to physically fit a single 1080 and take some pics so we can see.

 

Be sure and make a details video as you plug in the card to the DM - before you power On please pull back and set a wide view focus, we want to see *all* of the smoke and flames

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I think she waited too long...

 

I do. I'll try it at some point.

 

Try to make it as detailed as possible, ill send you a DOTA2 cookie to make it worth your time
No guarantee if its a dupe you already have or not.

 

oh f*** me! it's getting too complicated!

 

@bloodhawk , sorry for bugging you again...any news on the core with 1080?

 

Nope, i haven't been able to get my own core, and my friends Core turned out to be defective. So hes waiting on a RMA now.
He managed to get the 1080 Strix, but whenever he tries to connect the core to his Blade, it keep on turning on and off, in order to keep it on he has to press the latch really tightly against the back of the case.

There are cores available out there, but they are way too overpriced, and just not worth the experiment. Holding on tight for now, or trying to see if i can get my hands on the Akitio Thunder 3 PCIe Box. It was available on amazon last week , i even had it in my cart, thinking ill place the order over the weekend, but it unavailable as of Friday .

 

Where to get the external gpu cases?

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