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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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is there a method for using nvme drives as the OS? i have the modded BIOS so it doesn't seem to like detecting it.
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NVME drives dont show up in the BIOS, since there is no on board controller.
But they work just fine. Most of us are using 950 Pro's as boot drivers. Heck im using my NVME drive hooked up over TB3.
http://imgur.com/a/1KYaTPapusan likes this. -
oh ok so a BIOS update wouldn't amount to anything?
but the drive is still visible when you install windows? -
Nope and Yes but only after you load the NVMe driver from disk when you install Windows .
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oh ok cos i am thinking of getting some higher capacity drives.
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Observations so far from playing with one of these
- undervolting the 6700K is just ridiculous. Doing wPrime 1024M at stock was 87C (fan on auto, spooled up to max) and ~72W Core TDP. -150mV, no other change, is 71C (auto - no audible fan!) and ~49W TDP.
- long unsupported heatpipes are frail and easy to bend if you're not careful, and a fraction of a mm is all it takes to get a thermal throttle after 5 seconds
- The SLI cable was installed backwards when I got it, confusing me greatly for a while about which was master/GPU #0 & slave/GPU #1... and it makes no difference at all.
- I have to learn something else now... how to flash vbios on SLI. Power limits are annoying me, throttling down from max turbo at 73C is silly
The 980M SLI in this is like 5-6X the power of the previous 680M. The CPU and RAM... not so much maybe 50%. But I did push the previous 3720QM all the way up to a sustained 3600+MHZ multicore so not really a fair comparison.hmscott and CaerCadarn like this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
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Just make sure the old drive with the boot partitions is removed when you trying to install Windows with an NVME drive..It ****s up everything!
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Yeah bruh, I confirmitate! I'm running 2 (count them 2!) Samsung NVME 950 Pros (256Gb) in Raid 0! My compy is so fast at them boot ups, and you know, at them read/write computations it burns my eyes out of my skull sometimes... and I can't see them in that BIOS thingy, never could. But they their, or my computer like to boot on non-recognized drives somehow!!!
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Oh bruh! dis be the true true. I installed OS on Samsung 950 NVME pro, but had SATA 3 850 EVO connected at installtioning. Holy crap, Win 10 puts them boot files on drive 2! this made the wierdest problem for me for a long time, turn computer on, it gets boot instruction from 950 NVME pro, but has to look on SATA 3 drive for boot, I'd get that weird partial blue screen (blue screen was not complete) with no error recorded, then it would shutdown and reboot no problem. Happened for months, then I read about windows install and 2 drives boot files problem. Clean install with no second drive connected and no problems ever since!
That be the true-true bruh!TomJGX likes this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
=|-|4+ m34n$ j00 haven't read this guide:
NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide
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if i wanted to install onto an NVME SSD, where is the driver i would need to load when i install the OS?
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Onto which OS?
The drivers are diff. for Windows 7 vs Windows 10
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win 10 since that's what i am using.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
For Windows 10, you don't necessarily need to load the driver during installation as the basic NVMe Driver in Windows 10 will do the job until you are in Windows then you can install it.
The Windows installer is here: http://www.samsung.com/semiconducto.../software/Samsung_NVMExpress_Driver_rev11.zip
If you must load the driver during installation, then the INF Driver is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/az5l41o502tz6np/Samsung_NVMe_Driver_v1.4.7.17_(Windows_10).zip -
Yeah Phoenix bruh! Your post there is actually where I solve-itated my problem. Thanks for that infor bruh!Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
w3lc0m3 t0 t3h 1337 t34m
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I have stock from Mythlogic. never did any OC'ing or updating BIOS. Def have to do that. Did you get a new vbios for the gtx 980?
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The Prema BIOS or vBIOS for P870DM-G releases are not for public release. Since your system is from Mythlogic, they should be able to provide you with a newer version, if one is available.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Assuming you have a samsung drive of course. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Yeah duh . the drivers I linked were Samsung drivers and the user asked for the Samsung driver.
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anyone know about these 1070's and whether they'll fit into the P870DM-G?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GTX-...df4fd01&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=182332055744 -
yeop
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oh that's right. the card is still too expensive. wish there was a cheaper reseller cos $1300 AUD is WAY TOO MUCH!
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Where did you see that? -
Try here http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-msi-1070n-n17e-a2-g2.797652/ It's not the resellers - it's the ridiculous wholesale cost of MXM boards for the last decade that's the problem
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Just emailed them!
Do you happen to know if there is an update on the Control Center? I'm running the default one but I don't like the fact that if I leave it on Automatic it runs the fans at 100% when I'm playing BF1.
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I do not use the Clevo Control Center, all of its versions mess around with services it shouldn't. At least for me.
I leave the fans at automatic (Fn+1) and manually max them out when i want to run a benchmark or something.Papusan likes this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
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if i were to get a 1070 is there any modifications i would need to do before installing like i did the alienware and the 980M?
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Watched the eurocom video on YouTube of the upgrade? Basically, other than thermal pads in the right spots, no.
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not so much that as do i need to tweak any settings in the BIOS for it to work cos i remember i had to tweak the BIOS in the alienware to get the 980M to work.bennyg likes this.
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Just wanted to double check specs on the 4x small screws attaching heatsink to MXM board. The service manual, for single 980M on page 54 part 9 says they are M2.5x4L whereas page 55 and 56 for 980 and 980M SLI the same part 9 says M1.6x2.5L. Since the SM looks like it's in error here can someone confirm for me please they are M1.6 - part 9 is supposed to be shared with screws all over the motherboard which aren't tiny M1.6's...
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Eurocom.
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I may consider getting the MSI 1070 if i have the money....maybe in december.
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is there any real increase from a 980 to a 1070?
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All depends http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia...-1080-SLI-GTX-1070-and-GTX-1060.171566.0.html
How high is your 24/7 overclock on graphics? You can narrow the gap slightly toward a stock 1070 if you OC.Last edited: Nov 12, 2016 -
it's all back on stock clocks. most games run well like BF1.Georgel likes this.
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$ 1300 for an increase from 980 to 1070 around 23-29% is not worth it. 1080 Oh' yes. Or from 980M. Try to clock the card you already have. To narrow the gap a bit.TomJGX, Spartan@HIDevolution, Georgel and 1 other person like this.
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not all games like the overclocks i set so that's a shame.
a 30-40% increase is not good? I don't get that really....maybe in terms of a value proposition but that aside i would think that a 30-40% or more would constitute as good.
i may try when i get the money and see if it suits.Last edited: Nov 12, 2016Georgel likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Depends on the display you are on. 1440p going from 45fps to 60fps is a very nice increase.
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1080p is overkill for a 1070? I see some games struggle a bit at times like DX:MD so yeah I am interested in trying to see if it suits me though I don't think i can sell my 980 at all since i have a 2 year warranty (which is probably useless anyway...i dunno. the warranty upgrade was free).
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
For now the 1070 is a bit overkill for 60Hz 1080p yes, but if you OC your display up to 100hz for instance it can help now already.
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Depends on games... Metro 2033 Redux, Quantum Break, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, aaand a few other titles don't get 60 fps in FHD with everything to max with GTX 1080...
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Everything to the max is usually a silly way to run with no real visual benefit of course
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well, i am interested in trying when i get the money
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When I can get a 1070 that fits and has SLI, or a 1080 that fits, I'll do it. At least I have the 980M SLI which I can resell and make it cost-neutral... ish
For now, I found the limit of one of my 330W power adapters
AC-100 incoming
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anyone installed a 1070 into a P870DM-G?
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