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You mean with the MSI card? There should be no issue though G-sync may not work.

 

So, I've seen the Razer Core Desktop Graphics Enclosure, being sold on HIDevolution. Whatever happened to that experiment? Does it really work on our laptops? Is it worth it? I remember some time ago, somebody was experimenting on this thing. But I never heard much about it afterwards. Any ideas people?

 

Pretty much the same thing, minus the LAN and USB ports.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-g-gtx1080-tb3-hdk-pe4c-v4-1-m-2-ngff.796773/

 

And $400 cheaper lol...

 

@Prema @all_Clevo_Gurus

Calling for help from Phoenix users!

 

Now it makes sense why clevo cards don't work in Gen 1 P870DM-Gs.

EDIT: I used the MSI 1070 as a reference since that's known to work with the Gen 1 P870DM-Gs.

 

hmmm....I had a look at some reference photos and did some rough measurements and you can't do SLI with the MSI 1070 since the RAM is in the way.

is it possible to combo a desktop GPU with a mobile GPU like MSI GTX 1070 + GTX 980M?

EDIT: Bah! i need a new heatsink since the 980 DT doesn't cover everything.

 

Nvidia require exact identical cores for SLI (same core generation and shader count).

 

OK, can it be like one card be for physx?

 

Yes you could do that I suppose, it's a lot just for the few games that do it though.

 

fair enough. gonna need to replace the heatsink though

 

The MSI board should fit with the existing heatsink, the clevo one I would leave.

 

it doesn't cover the mosfets in the top right.

 

A small ramsink should do the job there, 6 phases is more than the desktop 1070 after all.

 

how to stick ram sinks onto the exposed areas?

A quick overlay of the 980 DT heatsink + the MSI 1070. It's not even accounting for the contours of the heatsink covers. the top strip of chips and bit of the grey chip thingy (not sure what that's called) but that's also visible but will probably be covered up by the thermal pads anyway.

what are the chips in the top right?

 

You should be using a 980M heatsink for the GTX 1070 MSI model, not the GTX 980 heatsink.

 

Ah but the cooling on that heatsink is better.

Those chips are the VRMs, if you could get a copper shim and heatpipe to extend the heatsink that would be ideal but some ramsinks on those top chips would work too unless you wanted to smash the regular clocks with overclocking.

 

Eurocom confirmed that the 980Dt heatsink is a bust for the msi 1070.

I wonder if, with a bit of modding, I can install and run dual MSI 1070s in SLI?

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I've been wondering this since early on
1) physical fit? - need exact dimensions to assess overlap between cards; overlap between slave + ram; and whether mounting holes line up
2) no MSI 1070 with SLI has yet been confirmed. Though they MUST exist since the GT73VR is available with SLI 1070's

I'm thinking a 1080 would be a better idea.

My hard drive/SSD are nudging above 50C with the 980M SLI, I'm suspecting heat radiation from the backplates having nowhere to go, I'm not happy with that at all. That cant be a side effect of removing the bottom foil/coverings surely?

 

It depends on the gap between the master and slave slots. The MSI card sticks out about 4mm on the left and 7mm to the right with that nub in the to right corner. My guess is that it's a no.

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@woodzstack just told me that I can even use my 980m heatsinks as well with adding some additional thermal pads, this is what he said to me:
"You have everything you need already. The heatsinks your using for the 980M should be fine, you will have to shim them with extra thermal pads in the right place. Just send me a PM and I can get you started,."

 

I ordered the 980m heatsink along with the MSI 1070 from @woodzstack so hoping it comes soon.

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Good news. Please update us with your experience.
Wish you all the best.

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Will see how this upgrade goes and maybe I'll even consider upgrading to a 4K screen.

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Good luck wish you all success.

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I`m eagerly waiting for you findings, results and tests. And post pictures, many pictures please

 

4K screen, with 1070? What's the point? Thought your interest was most possible fps. It's not exactly a 1080 You buy

 

if prema can pull it off with a BIOS update it'll be an i7 7700k.

 

@thegh0sts
this is P870DM(G) master mobile GPU heatsink with MSI single non SLI 1070:


It fits perfectely
(lolz @ my photoshop kung foo)

 

i knew it would fit cos they did it in the eurocom video.

 

I have one of them on the way b173zan01.0 iirc the model #otoh. I know it'll fit since this exact laptop is the one from the tech inferno thread

So you'll have an idea of how it'll perform since the 1070 is a bit faster than 980M SLI

 

I`m wondering why they modded the 1070 vBIOS, was it non functional with stock one or there were some issues with it.

@ Eurocom Support
can you share info about it?

 

i wonder what the thing on the top right does?

 

What thing?

 

The nub that sticks out on the right side of the MSI 1070.

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It's a part of the PCB, on the rear it has a voltage controller on it.

 

Ok cool. Was wondering what it was.

EDIT: If that nub was redesigned to not stick out then you might have a chance of doing SLI in the P870DM-G with a bit of case modding.

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Hi everyone,

I did a more more measuring of the P870DM-G G1 (the G that got screwed over by nvidia) MXM slots. I found some specs for the size of the MXM interface and measured the slots and the gap between the slots. Here is my diagram and please remember it's still just a big guess.

Left is the slave and the right is the master. I've highlighted the questionable areas like the left of the slave GPU (which is just internal framing that can be cut out) and the overlap where the slave card and master card meet. If you could shave off just < 1mm from the nub on the slave GPU i think it will be possible to do MSI 1070s in SLI....the only problem now is just power.



EDIT: looks like i was dreaming again cos on closer inspection the MSI 1070 DOESN'T have an SLI connector on the board so no wonder we haven't seen 1070 SLI laptops.

 

Wow, shaving PCB off freshly bought $1000 dollar cards, that would take large cojones

Correct
except there ARE - the GT73VR 6RE Titan SLI and the GT83VR 6RE Titan SLI are SLI 1070's.

Except by the time you've forked out for two of them (plus, in your case, heatsinks as well) you may as well consider selling your DM(1) and buying a DM2/DM3... a DM2 barebone from RJTech with 1070 SLI (Clevo cards ofc) is $2300USD for reference

 

Also the core positions differ on those cards IIRC.

 

I saw the MSI GT80 with 1070 SLI Yesterday

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Do they differ between master and slave?

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Not sure what youre asking here, the cards are the same, the heatsinks are the same where they contact the card, they aren't interchangeable in the chassis due to heat pipe/heat exchanger area.

Are you saying the heatsinks won't mount on the card in the same place as the 980M?

 

That's what I mean, is there a slave version that has its layout tweaked compared to the master which is standard? And why go through all that trouble of tweaking the board layout anyway?

Regardless the 1070 can't do SLI anyway since there's no SLI connector.

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No the MXM boards are interchangeable (I did it last month troubleshooting a 10C diff in temps)

 

Since I had to open it to install a M.2 here's some measurements.

10.4mm between the edges of the 980M PCBs
7.9mm between the plastic covering on the MXM slots
7.5mm from end of 980M PCB to nearest point (surround of screw hole just left of centre of slave card)
11.4mm from end of 980M PCB to horizontal internal chassis frame (both M & S)
~1.5mm between slave PCB and chassis
~6.5mm between slave PCB and nearest part of RAM (the spring loaded retainer)
~8mm between slave PCB and "MB" connector (possible clearance issue for a backplate)
14mm between slave PCB and the screw housing on the battery
23.5mm between slave PCB and battery
34mm between master PCB and side internal chassis

I'll put these in a diagram because this will be 1000% easier to understand with a picture

 

Read back, people were talking about the MSI SLI cards. The 1080 is the same shape but the core is moved to fir the ram arrangement around it.

Checking the SLI 1070 and its fine, same shape just with the connector. Not that two physically fit however.

 

Nice work. Rep added.

 

well, you'll need to shave off a bit of the right nub and cut out the plastic framing on that parallels the slave card. it will mean the slave GPU is next to the RAM though.

 

There is a 1070 sli version I just saw it in one Chinese website


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