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For measuring u re using in a wall Wattmeter or like me with hwinfo? in gta5 1080p ultra without overclock i got 128W but i reach 76*c. Maybe i should replace grizzly for Clu

 

Without a utilisation % its hard to know how hard your GPU is working
Or can you remove the frame caps (vsync / gsync, in game frame limiter?) and run again

 

I just did a quick test BF1 (when i should be sleeping) uncapped the utilisation is 99.5-100% but while capped it's 40-50%. the lack of an upclock to 1900+ when uncapped but not when capped is still evident.

the wattage use for the game is still accurate though HWinfo has recorded a max of 120.281W. mind you the game does not sustain this high level and usually fluctuates as per the video.

i'll do an updated video when i get home after work.

 

Wich soft u re using? i am using afterburner

 

i wonder if there's any chance of the BIOS being updated to use Kaby lake? the only real reason is to use the built-in HEVC decoder for netflix 4k.

 

RTSS + HWinfo.

 

i would love a bios update for my 1070 + 4k.....

 

And the the built-in HEVC decoder for Netflix 4k is added to iGPU. Forget it

 

just for @bennyg

 

Thanks

My bad - I didn't realise you uncapped it halfway thru your 1st vid

 

when uncapped the utilisation is high but the clocks don't get to 1900+ but when it's capped the clocks go up but the utilisation goes to about half.

odd.

 

Because you're hitting the TDP and it's downclocking itself in response.

 

never happened with previous card architectures.

 

Pascal also throttles with temperature starting from like 50C.

 

Because you where using vBIOS Mods...

 

is it possible to get a custom vbios made for the MSI 1070? I sent the file over to see if it was possible (when you have the time). i'm no expert in vbios modification but if anyone can do it, it's you @Prema. I'll even donate some cash to get you started, if you get started. heck, it may even get more people on board to buy the GPU.

on another note, anyone seen what the 1080 that's going into the Tornado F5 looks like? i want to see if it's plug n play just like the 1070 and if it has the same layout as the 1070 so that heatsinks would fit correctly. Eurocom said it needs a new motherboard so it could mean anything from extra space to possibly extra power.

 

not looking good.

https://imgur.com/w12W5mc

looks like the only GPU upgrade possible is the 1070 unless there's a 1080 that looks like the 1070.

 

You can't fit a 1080 with GDDR5X into a standard MXM format due to the required memory layout.

 

the heatsink won't match for sure but it'll still sit into the slot

 

Standard MXM format would have the core positioned the same

 

i ain't fussed about getting the 1080.

 

We will have to see how future memory technologies impact the shape of cards.

 

But it looks like the MSI 1070 is THE ONLY upgrade that can be done.

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There is also the Zotac ZBox 1070 which is 100% standard MXM, but doesn't have a SLI connector and isn't sold separately from the machine. Someone just got one working 100% in an older Alienware 17.

 

interestingly enough even though i have a gsync panel the 1070 just recognises it as a normal 60hz panel instead.

no idea why.

 

Every GPU/panel combo needs its own gsync $ertifi¢ation - maybe MSI never paid nvidia for certification as the standard p870dm 1080p 75hz panel you've got is not used in any of their 1070 laptops?

 

possible, it does mean i could install a 4K screen without having to worry about gsync

so far everything runs like a boss...even with the +127 OC.

i'm not super fussed because the laptop still works even though i think it's life will end in a year or 2 or whenever the GTX 11 series is available....i'll be sure to get 2 1180s in SLI for SNGs!

 

A tweaked 1070 should get you there for now

 

Looks like that time has come my friend...

Edit, but you still get windows 7

 

Yeees, Sir

 

I wonder how much of the bios needs to be changed to get kaby lake working?

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Quite a bit.

 

Is it safe to delid a 6700k?

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Nope.















/S

 

Your computer will literally explode.

 

Serious answer please cos I am thinking of buying a delidding tool.

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There is minimal to no risk when using a delidding tool. The risk comes from if you misapply liquid metal afterwards or seriously messing up the IHS alignment when mounting, as well as the lack of a warranty if your CPU dies in the future.

 

It's a must if you really want to push the processor to decent clocks for 24/7 use.
Now is it safe or not will depend entirely on your hands and what you use to delid it.
The Rockit88 slid tool is one of the safest options out there.
This has been discussed in multiple thread though

 

If I delid, wouldn't the gap between the die and heatsink be bigger? Does it only have to be CLU when delidded?

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No, it's usually smaller. If it was bigger then liquid metal would be completely unusable. If you don't use liquid metal, you're going to get minimal gains.

EDIT: If you don't use liquid metal between the die and IHS.

 

Nope. You reduce the gap between the Die and IHS. = Better contact and heat transfer.
The gap between the Heat sink and IHS will be a little bit bigger, but not enough to cause issues.
You do not have to use CLU on the IHS and heatsink, that requires a perfectly flat heat sink to be of any use. If you do not overclock much, then just use something like Kryonaut or ICD or GeLid GCE.
Though if your contact is flat, then CLU will give you the best results. Only use it if you k ow exactly what you are doing and know how to handle and apply it properly it.

 

My 6700k is clocked at 4.4ghz and I am wondering if it's worth it since I see some of the core peak over 70 degrees sometimes. It may just be a simple case of repasting but I like the idea of having less surface area and removing the middle man.

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At 70C it's hardly worth worrying about. Might as well hold onto your warranty.

 

If you don't do tasks that push the processor much or if your ambient temps are always good. Might as well keep it that way.

#Ninjad

 

If I stress the FPUs I get thermal throttling in under a minute at 4.5GHz (-25mV adaptive)

I have Conductonaut between IHS and heatsink so the thermal 'weakest link' must be the goop under the IHS, that's why I'm planning to delid soon

Though I'm gonna use a tool rather than risk this happening; http://imgur.com/lg9THMw

 

Only if you use "C4" "Thermal Paste" under the IHS

The Thermal Paste that "Cares"...

 

Yes, if you did it with the right way, I did it 2 days ago in less than 5 minutes. Using my teacher @Mr. Fox video. The heat was reduced by almost 20c..., using CLU under and above the IHS.
EDIT:
I did stress testing for the CPU and the result was amazing the heat after 15 min was only 75c, it was 96c before. I did all what I can to stress the CPU and still the same. No special tool just a Classic shaving blade .
One of my friends he is an architect using Autocad and some 3D software, when he test the laptop and saw the result, he just bought it from me with no price discussion. Reducing the heat for a powerful desktop CPU in a laptop is a good selling point.

 

you gonna buy a 1070? you'll lose gsync because the board isn't compatible but it still works without gsync.

 

No I'll not upgrade to 1070, I don't have time for that much of customization and tuning, I'll just wait for my Sky X9E new 980m's GPU's to arrives, and I'll test the whole laptop very well to make sure there is no other problems with it, then sell it, and I'll buy a new machine with 1080 or 1080 SLI.

 

no problem. wait till the GTX 11 series to make the sale worth while.