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    *** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by NordicRaven, Sep 22, 2015.

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    I run 2 x 950 pros. One of them is my OS drive.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 17, 2017
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Wrong, it's NVMe ;) And why should yoo avoid NVMe? If yoo have the money. Why not?

    Form Factor - PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 2280
    Interface / Protocol - NVMe 1.2
     
    Papusan, Jul 17, 2017
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    After a night of research on the subject, I found out that there is a Samsung Pro 960, might go for that one as well, seems like it is more reliable :eek:

    Thank you!

    This is what I wanted to know :p
     
    Georgel, Jul 18, 2017
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    The 960 evo and the 960 pro are the two choices for high performance currently, I run the 961 the OEM version of the pro drive.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 18, 2017
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    960 Pro also looks quite reliable, 400 TBW of reliablity is pretty good for a large 512GB SSD, if you ask me. I wonder how much the general system performance will be affected by this transition though
     
    Georgel, Jul 18, 2017
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    Day to day they are not hugely different to SATA or AHCI based drives.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 18, 2017
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  7. Papusan

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    Almost impossible kill today's ssd's. You wouldn't see a big performance increase with the fastest ssd's vs. next fastest in ordinary use.

    I will continue buying ssd's with mlc nand(they are more costly, due a bit longer warranty). As I re-use my ssd's in next new computers (if I buy big enough ssd's), the extra cost will be spread over several years. A expensive small ssd will be thrown in in the drawer when you buy your next computer. Buy big enough instead of the most expensive small and fastest ssd.
     
    Papusan, Jul 18, 2017
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    That is the way to go! :)

    I was actually comparing the speeds with a SATA SSD, not with another NVMe or with another superspeed SSD though. Corsair XTI vs 960 Pro is what mostly wondering about.
     
    Georgel, Jul 19, 2017
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    I'd take multi layer TLC over single layer MLC due to cell size however.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 19, 2017
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    it would be nice if the BIOS got a microcode update or something for skylake....kabylake would be good too :D
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 19, 2017
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  11. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    If you absolutely need to have new updated microcode for the HT bug (I have never seen the performance problem). Download, then install this one.
     
    Papusan, Jul 20, 2017
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    Does it override the prema bios?

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 20, 2017
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    No. Only a change in Windoze OS. Run Install.bat in safe mode, then re-start. For uninstall do the same but run Uninstall.bat instead.
     
    Papusan, Jul 20, 2017
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    The micro code update will be integrated on each boot with the windows patch but the firmware itself is unchanged.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2017
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    OK, good to know!
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 20, 2017
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Sometimes my boot screen displays corruption in the form of white vertical bars over the bios splash screen.not sure if there's a problem as it boots into windows and operates fine.

    This doesn't happen all the time, just randomly.
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 21, 2017
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    Could be a slight memory issue. Possibly.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 22, 2017
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hmmm...ok. I've run out of thermal paste so will have to wait till i get the 4k screen to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 22, 2017
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    Hi guys
    I just have noticed there is something wrong with my laptop, shuts off immediately when unplugged??
    Battery icon shows 65% (charging ) all time and no % increasing at all.
    Laptop is still under warranty but I would like to avoid sending it to Germany...

    any ideas ?
     
    eslord, Jul 27, 2017
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    Is the machine under load when you do this? Can it boot on the battery?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 27, 2017
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    Can't boot on battery.
     
    eslord, Jul 27, 2017
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    take the battery out and just have the mains and see if that works :)
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 27, 2017
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    The battery is one of the things that bug me about the 870 series. I always preffer no batterys once its been charged when at home.

    Sent from my SM-P905 using Tapatalk
     
    Yaka, Jul 27, 2017
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    It works with AC plugged in but does not boot on battery and windows icon shows that battery is charging but battery %% stays untouched.

    Thanks guys..
     
    eslord, Jul 27, 2017
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    Either the charging circuit or the battery is dead then.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 28, 2017
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    So I managed to install the 1440p 120hz screen to this machine, but now I am having a problem of "Microsoft Display Adapter" being my main display and "NVidia Graphics Card" is no longer detected by Windows. It is however, detected in BIOS...
     
    LoneSyndal, Jul 28, 2017
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    01.0 or 01.4?
     
    bloodhawk, Jul 28, 2017
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    Most likely 1.0 if I based this on the vendor I got it from.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jul 28, 2017
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    Hmm weird. The 1.0 worked just fine on my DM1.
     
    bloodhawk, Jul 28, 2017
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    Yep...
     

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    Yeap was working fine on my system.
    The same panel however was having issues one someones else's Dm1 which was from Origin.
     
    bloodhawk, Jul 28, 2017
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    Mine's from XoticPC/Sager.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jul 28, 2017
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    Anyone know if I should just switch it back? Or will it not fix my current predicament? it seems like a software issue...

    @Prema @Meaker@Sager
     
    LoneSyndal, Jul 28, 2017
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    We tried a few special mods back then, but I don't remember if we where able to fix it...
     
    Prema, Jul 29, 2017
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    Yeah on his system, it still was having flickering / flashing issues when games were loading, other than that it was working fine.
    But on my system, both using the Hybrid and Stock Preamod, it was working just fine :D
     
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    Right now my main issue is that my GPU is considered "Microsoft Display Adapter". NVidia drivers and Windows wont detect it, but BIOS does. If the fix is screen replacement again, I guess I have to give up on the dream!
     
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    Did you try a modified INF driver with disabling driver signing?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 30, 2017
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    Tried, didn't work. That was the first step I took since it was something most of us did during the early Clevo days.
     
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    two-thirds of my 4K upgrade has arrived (received EDP cable and thermal paste)...just waiting on the 4K panel which is still MIA!
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 31, 2017
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    I just bought a p870 barebone that will be shipped in the next couple of days :)

    I have a couple of questions about it in order do decide what hardware to put in it now before it arrives.

    I can get the 7700k cheaper then the 6700k, does it support it?

    The keyboard on the one I am getting ia not my language, but I have a p751 that I am also using the GPU from, do the p751 and p870 have the same keyboard?

    I guess 32Gb of 2400Mhz RAM or a 512Gb NVME disk wont cause any problems?

    I am sorry if these qustions have been covered before.
     
    estens, Aug 1, 2017
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    Thank you for you reply.

    And the latest official clevo bios supports 7700k?
    Do I have to use another cpu to update the bios or will I be able to update bios with the 7700k installed?

    I see in the link that it fits both p750 and p870 so I guess they have the same keyboards.
    So then I'll just use the keyboard from my p751 that I am going to part out ;)
     
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    Nope
     
    bloodhawk, Aug 1, 2017
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    So I would need a prema bios then..
     
    estens, Aug 2, 2017
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    If there is a one with Kaby lake Support for the P870DM-G.
    @Prema
     
    bloodhawk, Aug 2, 2017
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    oh man, the wait for the 4K panel is killer.
     
    thegh0sts, Aug 2, 2017
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    Is there some way to get hold of the premabios somewhere now?

    How long have you been waiting?
     
    estens, Aug 3, 2017
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