*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

Please school us.

 

I just want to say, holy moly! It's arriving tomorrow(the beast)!!

 

You guys have me worried that this laptop has issues stock.

 

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger! Help I can't decide, it's come down to the monitor, which looks better the 4K G-Sync Monitor on the batman 2.0 or the IPS 17"? I'm really concerned that I won't like the 4K G-Sync Matte monitor I'm hoping it has good viewing angles etc..

 

thanks bro
is P870dm fine with win7?

 

Apparently not, just some dynamic clocking (not my favorite thing to look at) that XTU is falsely reporting as throttling. See what @unclewebb posted. It's false/misleading information that had us worried for a bit. The behavior is different in appearance, but the performance is correct. 18K 3DMark 11 with a single GPU is pretty hard to argue with.

I am using Windows 7/10 dual boot.

 

at the usual comments of Linus audience....grrrrrr!!

 

So my x6 apparently had a little problem in things and eurocom offered to ship me a x9 instead. Should I take it?

I wonder if single 980 is worth it compared with 2x 980m. Any one have some overclocking info on the 200w 980?

 

The 200W is pretty unlocked clock wise, the only thing is the voltage is limited. It will clock very well most likely.

2x 980M will perform better in games that get along with SLI however.

 

Skylake desktop, and 980 desktop in SLI... any manufacturer dares? cowards...

 

Lol, clevo/sager have made the systems in the past, however the demand was not there at the time, so if you like going back to the big beasts then voting with your wallet is the way to go.

 

The virtues are lacking one another, the MSI GT80S (the last...) have 980 Desktop in SLI, but not have Gsync or desktop processor, The clevo P870PM-G have desktop processor and Gsync (adorable gsync...), but not SLI for desktop GPU.

I look for a system that doesn't have gaps

I could hold a 980 M SLI, as long as I know that if they take future desktop GPU fit in the system, be able to connect without energy constraints (

 

So single 980 200w it is. Considering I got a free upgrade from p775dm to p870dm, I guess I shouldnt complain about the extra weight.

 

Future CPUs would be down to intel, but you can get dual 980M in this machine.

 

Yes yes, but we don't know if in the future nvidia launches desktop pascal (or another) in the same PCB size of 980M, us can connect in SLI.

So I wondered if before the inability to put 2 980 desktop in SLI is only for space (size of pcb), or for the energy that can give the motherboard.

 

I appreciate the enthusiastic answer, it seems apparent you have dedicated many hours to this topic. However Eurocom should market themselves more aggressively, otherwise a person like me that has no knowledge of what you are saying simply sees the price, the list price yes, but it still is the first thing you see before you even decide in contacting them.
If the Prema mod does not void the warranty on Eurocom laptops they should advertise it! I did not know this. However, I got the exact quote from Mythologic and it is still 1k less than theirs at list price, am in the process of contacting them. So, Mythologic also supports Prema, what warrants the extra $$ in Eurocom? It is still unclear to me to why they are different from other laptops. Are the parts OC'd? More dedicated customization?

 

@Mr. Fox Does the standard gsync panel run at 75hz stock ? is it possible to overclock to 100hz and how does this effect gsync.

 

Linus Tech did make it 100hz. I think mine is standar 60hz, atleast Multicom said so(hope not). And to all Prema Mod shoppers, patience, all will be able to use the mod down the river! Just gotta wait the wait.

 

Agreed this is why I went with mythlogic as well. I am all for companies wanting to generate more income off people who impulse purchase without shopping around, but assembling the same materials and charging almost 700 dollars more is highway robbery. From what I have seen there is literally no difference from mythlogic's build quality and eurocom except for price and product offerings.

 

how hard is it to overclock a panel ? the visual quality is night and day between a 60hz and 100hz from what i hear. even getting it to 75hz is a massive improvement.

 

The standard 1080p panel does run at 75mhz gsync , you can clock up or down from here. With gsync requirements being pretty strict I would bet 99% of them will overclock the same in refresh rates.

 

If I make it 100hz, then I'll have the ultimate laptop dream

 

Right but the more frame rate the more gpu you need and most latest release titles will struggle to run on ultimate at 100fps consistantly so you can't have your cake and eat it too unless you lower quality. Basically a certain amount of power will only produce a certain amount of results it's all in how the spread works best for you.

I honestly can't tell much difference between 75 and 100fps on a small screen but that's just me.

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Mine comes at 75Hz from the factory even if I format and reinstall the driver again, it's always 75 HZ . Yes you can overclock it, by how much depends on your specific panel / luck.

My screen is the 17.3" LG LP173WF4-SPF1 IPS FHD Matte Screen (G-SYNC)

 

True, for me, from 60hz to 75hz is a huge bump in smoothness. Anything above that is really difficult to tell. I find 75HZ to be the best sweet spot.

 

big thanks for the info. I am glad they are rolling these out with 75hz. It does make a big difference

 

I put on mine 980 desktop just for VR, regarding 980m sli yes is more better but even a lot of games doesn't support sli

About Pascal Gpu's I hope they will come on it.. In other case maybe they will release a gtx 980ti for laptop

 

Eurocom's default price is in CAD. As someone who just got a free upgrade by eurocom, their customer support is pretty good with things and very helpful. So I would recommend a x9 as well.

 

SLI is better for reducing frame latency. The GTX 980 was marketed for VR because as a single GPU, it exceeds Oculus' requirements of the desktop 970.

 

^How would SLI reduce frame latency?

 

Because it would use 1 GPU for each eye display rather than 1 GPU having to render 2 scenes. The more GPUs the better.

 

Oh. Its vr stuff

 

I think we are smart enough to switch it to USD before making these statements. The same exact specs and equipment, 3300 from mythlogic and 4000 from eurocom. mythlogic has great reviews, great customer service, and the best QA ive found.

 

You realize eurocom cad to usd exchange rate doesnt meet the current currency exchange rate right? As in, its about 20% off. Check the price in cad and convert it to usd.

I am pretty sure eurocom gets perma bios right away, might have to wait for mythologic.

 

thanks man, I just got my machine
with stock bios I tried to do a stress test (furmark+prime 95 with fpu only)
graphic card is doing fine
but I7 6700 is either running at 2.9GHZ with 60C or 3.4GHZ with 75C
there should be no thermal issue, any idea why the throttling happened?

 

Yes, but the owners of a clevo not know whether they can upgrade to future desktop gpu IN SLI, while the owners of the new MSI GT80 yes (but will not have gsync) that's my uncertainty.

That is, the only impediment for the Clevo hasn't 980 desktop in SLI is the size of the PCB (more width)? If future desktop GPU had the same size as the 980M (thanks to HMB memory) could be connected in SLI regardless of consumption?

 

They are both Prema Partners.
https://biosmods.wordpress.com/partner/

 

Neat.

 

Anyone selling the 150w MXM 980 separately yet? Any pics on the PCB?

 

The Prema vBIOS mod goes up to 1.300V and I've overclocked it to 1500 on core.

 

I was watching your diassembly video and wanted to ask if the 2.5 inch HDD/SSD caddy are included with the system even if I didnt ordered a second ssd. Thanks.

 

I don't know anything about 6700. 6700K should be running 4.0Ghz with all cores, but doesn't using stock power settings. Voltage is way too high and needs to be dropped below 1.200V for 4.0GHz and set to static. 6700 may need similar tweaking.

Probably so. You'll need to ask. I don't work for them, so all I can tell you is what I know from handling the review unit and every slot was populated by something awesome.

 

Typically most places will include any type of caddy that you would need to install drives later, as far as I know.

 

Thanks. It probably wont be an issue so its ok. I never know the Liquid metal stuff had to be applied with a brush. Learn something new everyday.

 

Official Clevo P870DM/P870DM-G Drivers

 

Could I please ask a favour for some numbers people have achieved for stable oc of the 980 with stock vbios?


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The modules still not possible to buy separately now (but yes in future).

This is the pcb of 980M

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1v0t3HVXXXXa8XFXXq6xXFXXXG/Ordenador-portátil-GTX-980-m-8-GB-tarjeta-gráfica-con-MXM.jpg

And this is de pcb of 980Descktop in mxm

http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/ar...top-graphics-chip-is-gtx-980-144291380205.jpg

It is wider

So I was wondering if the only impediment to the Clevo P870 don't put 2 desktop 980 in SLI is only size, if in the future nvidia launches desktop GPU in the size of de 980m (thanks to HMB memory), clevo support 2 in sli independently of the consumption?

 

The 200 watt PCB doesn't have an SLI connector is the first reason the size is the second. The 180 & 150 watt PCB does have an SLI connector, I would hope that in the future they are used to create an SLI version but no news about one other than the GT80S at this point.

 

And as they will in the MSI?

 

Currently we are unsure which version the GT80s will use or the specific specs such as core clock and memory simply because its not out but expected in December. I believe the GT72s is using the 150 watt version according to Prema but the PCB is smaller than others so it was noted as high density according to the thread.