*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

Just add a few more LED's and pull off a panoramic Justice League sticker on the back like the guys at Comicon...


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Not in any way suggesting that someone is doing something wrong but it's a bit of a surprise to hear that - the stickers like Nvidia and Soundblaster on the touchpad area are applied by Clevo and actually have to be on there as part of the component agreement terms!

 

Has anyone heard anything else about the EC firmware being released? I have requested a different version from Eurocom but don't know if I will get anywhere with it so I wanted to ask what others have done or experienced if anything. I am aware this won't be an issue with the @Prema bios but for the meantime it would be nice not to worry about as I believe that I am seeing performance loss and some inconsistency in scores because of it.

My current version, the harder you push the GPUS the more the CPU clocks down.

 

So I removed the heatsink and noticed it was not touching the IHS at all...so the heatsink was perfectly clean from the CLU. I removed and applied ICDiamond and had significantly better results. This is of course after -150mV on XTU.

 

I also was hoping to utilize the thunderbolt 3, but no accessories are yet available for it. I did end up buying an Unitek usb 3.1 external dock(amazon link) to edit video from(comes out of a blackmagic camera so it is just a standard 2.5" SSD drive). When I ran crystalmark it did get pretty good speeds, like 50-70% better than usb 3.0. The odd part was the usb 3.1 connector was actually on the dock itself instead of using the usb 3.1c port on the laptop...so that confused me some. I guess I assumed that the dock would go from usb 3.1c to usb 3.1c instead of going from usb 3.1c on the dock to usb 3.1(?) type-a. If someone would clarify this that would be great.

 

i had this exact same thing happen to me when first applying clu on my dark knight! let me tell you, you need A LOT of clu to properly cover the desktop cpu IHS! also, ive found that u can ensure complete coverage, if you apply clu on both contact areas, thus IHS and heatsink. i know it sounds silly, but in order to properly cover the cpu die, the lower and upper side of the ihs AND the heatsink area that makes contact with the ihs i used up two and a half friggin tubes of clu! but my temps have never been better and i saw a drop of 5C compared to my previous setup with clu between ihs/die and gc extreme between ihs/heatsink

one thing is for sure: i wont repaste anymore for the next 6-12 months!

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Impressive! Any chance to copy your XTU profile?

Yesterday I did my first "teardown" of the machine, and my first paste job(thank you mrFox for your video).
The delidded CPU(Thank you Silicone Lottery) got to be friend with CLU between the cpu and heatsink, and so far so good.
Need to test Prime95 I guess?
I also repasted the GPU with Grizzly Thermal Paste. I actualy had to do it twice, practise makes perfect.
But here I didnt notice any temp difference at all, so maybe I got it wrong. Since I'm now getting Ok at the paste jobs, maybe I'll try ICD, just to check if there's a real difference.

Edit: Are you guys using ICD 7 or 24 carat?

 

I think 24 just means it's the bigger tube.

 

Hi guys I have a big problem please help me .. I choose to install again windows but one moment i was busy and my son push on delete partition on the recovery partition, I realized that He deleted the bios system by mistake, and when i start again my eurocom x9 dont start.. Only fans and leds how do I fix? Thanks guys

 

My BIOS is older than yours

 

You wont have deleted your BIOS unless your son did something really special, just your hard disk partition. Just start windows setup again.

I think you can access the BIOS via F2 on boot to make sure its still there. Since its all UEFI boot nowadays, you don't get the normal BIOS screens on startup now telling you what its looking at.

You probably wiped your hard disk and have no OS. Enter BIOS via F2 on startup (with your USB or DVD connected with windows), then select boot from that drive on one of the menus. You should then start windows setup and be able to install.

 

Thanks for answer but unfortunaly I cannot enter into my bios that the problem.. Laptop just running and thats it

 

Disconnect Battery and power bank then, hold power button in on position for sometime, afterwards let it sit for about 30 seconds.Somewhere earlier in the thread has instructions for an nvram reset i'd try that.Begin the F2 ritual immediately after powering on (that's after you instert your bat) don't wait to long to have uefi try to initialize anything.

Can also try booting with uefi install media attached,if uefi is feeling the christmas spirit it will just boot the next available device considering nvram is feeling the spirit to.

 

Try it with this one!

 

Thanks for answer i will try when i go back at home, i let you know thanks again

 

thats correct, 24 carats is just the designation for the larger tube, the contents are the same though

ICD, when applied exactly the same, should perform a little bit worse than GC Extreme and TG Kryonaut (were still only talking about 2-3C at most though), whereas the latter two are almost identical in temps (with kryonaut having a slight temperature advantage according to reviews). CLU on the other hand gives another whopping 5C+ advantage depending on application compared to GC Extreme / Kryonaut in my case that was a whole multi worth of OC!

 

Does paste play an important role in basic usage(like nothing blood sucking,say browsing none media heavy content) , or is it mainly in performance that you begin seeing the result? like would icd stock idle at say 40C be like 37C same idle stock with clu.Or mainly when you beging pumping performance out that the lines begin to draw in the sand?

 

It mostly matters under full load. On Idle you won't experience any differences though.

Temps on mine with ICD and later with CLU on idle were mostly the same BUT when doing the heavy stuff I see differences between 10-15 degrees, depending on what I am doing (gaming or benching).

 

yeah, i know what ure getting at

its usually the case that ull see the largest differences at load. the higher the load, the larger the difference. in my case i already noticed a temp drop at idle, but dont be concerned if your idle temps turn out to be the same before and after. best is to check at stress situations to really make the temp differences POP out

edit: aw, got ninja´d by @CaerCadarn

 

With our EC being the same, Hopefully we can get the version number that is earlier so we can ask for the right one. Have you contacted HID about your EC?

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I did and they said that they will contact Clevo and then zzzzz, not heard anything yet.

 

Thanks hopefully you hear something soon @hidevolution

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@Mr. Fox

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Hallelujah... I finally got it.... What a beautiful beast it is. Weight wise it's about the same as my Qosmio X505, Heavy...Now I am trying to install Win 7 and am running into problems The USB drive will boot and the Win7 install starts, I can select my Language and KB Language and then this pops up....


I have the external DVD but it's not plugged in and I can't find the driver it wants in any of the folders that are installed on the Boot Partition. If I plug the DVD in it will see it in the BIOS but not in the Win 7 install screen when I select Browse. I have the UFEI disabled. Hopefully someone knows how to get around this.

Edit: Ok, I googled it and the problem is the USB 3.0, since we don't have USB 2.0 or the ability to control the Legacy mode in the Bios, what's the fix? I've slipstreamed the USB 3.0 Drivers into the install package but they're not to be found in the Boot partition on the computer.

 

Nothing happen with the procedure
Some more help??

 

Ok i found the solution.. I remove one ddr4 ram and the procedure working.. If i try to put again the ram nothing happen.. Bios read very good the ram.. But if i try to install windows there is a kernel error.. Maybe is the Ram that is compromised?

UPDATE:
Ram port 3 100% doesn't work.. I just put the ram inside port 4 and pc running again.. So i think i have to sent my pc to eurocom..

 

At least it's something you can point to as the issue and hopefully get it sorted quickly.

 

Makes me want to test my two unused RAM slots...


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Before you send it back. Try reseating the cpu a few times first. This can also cause a ram slot to not work or start throwing errors.

 

Hi everyone. I just got my clevo p870dm-g this wednesday (through Xidax computers, they call it the XM-11 SS) Today my ram came 64GB (4x16) It's the Gskill ripjaws series 64GB 260 pin sodimm variant. I bought them off newegg.

So on and so I turned off my computer and removed the ram it came with and installed them only to find afterwards my computer won't boot even into the bios.

They're the 2666 variant but I read on eurocom the laptop supports up to that speed. I re-installed my old ram and it still won't boot and I even removed the battery. Please help if you've dealt with this sort of thing before. What should my next step be?

Thanks.

edit: Below is a picture of the new ram module.

 

If you feel confident doing it then yes, worth a shot. Physically inspect the pins for alignment and the base of the cpu for dirt.

 

Then why was the motherboard designed for two power cables instead of one for the video cards. And as I say that, I realize they put the four pin power connector on the zm/dm series located under the plastic edge by the cmos battery while not providing the extra heatsink coverage on the heatsink to support the 980 variant except on the 775. The heatsink for this machine use thicker thermal pads, meaning an original design to have extra space as needed for other components not found on the 980m, or so I assume. Except for firmware or power draw, I'm not seeing the technical reason to do those things (extra heatsink coverage or the second power connector) unless it was planned and scrapped after the mb was designed or maybe testing on the graphic cards began... Just saying could you please give me more...

 

Finally got my Phoenix today, I am happy beyond belief, this laptop is FAST.
Just installed all drivers and ran a quick CPU benchmark.

Undervolting 6700k works wonders: as someone earlier in this thread I set voltage to 1.0 static (1.1-1.15 real), and it never goes above 70 under XTU stress test. This is insane.

The only concern so far: to install Windows 7 I had to disable UEFI, is it normal?

 

The only csm seeing that must be in legacy is the video. All other csm settings can be in pure uefi! This only applies to win 7.

Also, are you sure you're not on adaptive with a set voltage? 100-150mV extra draw is a lot!
Edit: I'm used to seeing 20mV flux on my ZM with a dynamic undervolt in adaptive, while static has much less play over what was set (couple mV then the blues)... Just getting a feel for the mb adaptive settings and cpu allowance...

 

Don't know why the readings are higher. This is what I have in XTU and HWMonitor

 

Do you have Prema's sbios? Because that is perfectly acceptable for adaptive on these chips, but static shouldn't allow that much extra pull. Meanwhile, the ZM is a different firmware and Haswell. It has a surprisingly tight adaptive setting, compared to desktop MBs and firmware. 100-200 mV is normal for many desktop mb under stress tests and is well within operating conditions for all of your hardware, so you have nothing to worry about!

I just find it interesting...

 

Nobody has @Prema BIOS yet. I have the RC1 and he received a brand new BIOS that he is in the process of coding all the changes to right now. This will be available very soon to all that have a qualifying machine purchased from a PremaMod partner. If everything on the new BIOS versions works like the sweet thing I have right now the work will be done with my verification testing. Here's hoping the new BIOS is as good as the one we started with and no more gyrations are needed. I am able to do all of the CPU overclocking without even having XTU installed. Everything needed can be done through the BIOS, so Linux overclockers will be happy campers as well. The use of XTU is totally optional.

Even with static voltage set Skylake has some fluctuation. With the unlocked BIOS you can set minimum and maximum and it will stay within those parameters. With Skylake the idle voltage is high and load voltage is lower, and VDROOP crashing is basically never an issue with this behavior. This is actually fine and helps with stability at high overclocks. It helps so much that I am very happy (and extremely surprised, in fact,) to report that in all of the insane overclocking I have done there has not been a single (no, not even one, LOL) BSOD on the Sky X9. Skylake manages voltage very well... better than anything I have seen so far.

If you give it too much voltage it throttles massively to protect itself, and if you don't give it enough it shuts the machine off instead of throwing a BSOD. I think that's impressive because in addition to no BSOD, I have also not had any of the annoying Checkdisk scanning that always follows behind a series of BSOD in order to fix drive corruption. I've never seen a machine that overclocks the CPU this easy and with so few "natural" errors that normally accompany all of the the trial and error that is required to find your max overclock settings.

Edit: Other than a few tests for Prema (also got a new vBIOS mod) I have been running 4.7GHz pretty much all day, opening and closing the browser, random benchmarks, blah, blah, blah... hasn't missed a beat or gotten hot yet, LOL. And, "look ma, no XTU" 47x4 core, c-states deader than a doornail, 45x cache and 1.320V load voltage. Nice!

 

If i put the ram again inside the slot 3 the laptop read the memory but after starting windows it going in crash "blue screen"
Very strange..

 

Here's a quicky to give everyone something to look forward to... But, bear in mind, this is RC1 and the final version might be a little different. Lots of sweet menus. I'm not going to show all of them, just the highlights. BGA turdbook owners, eat your hearts out.

Side note: I have 980M SLI parts incoming. FedEx tracking number from Eurocom indicates delivery should be Tuesday. So, we should have some wicked PremaMod vBIOS overclocked SLI madness to share really soon.

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XTU? Whats that? never heard of it!. Who needs it ...
After seeing those menus think i'm gonna spend more time in there as to actually booting the os

SSD's are fast yep,but maybe soon will need our bench software right as part of the bios,booting spyware (some msft os) to test would seem like taking ages

Great informative video as always man thanks for your time and effort you put into those.

 

That was a very nice video, Mr Fox! Damn.

I miss testing Prema's bioses. He did well with the p570wm, that laptop was hard work

 

Just...wow. That might be the most comprehensive BIOS I've ever laid eyes on. Thanks for the sneak peek!

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RMA the memory stick.. It's probably faulty and causing these problems...

 

What you think? There is a solution? I can do something ?

 

Who and what is a PremaMod partner in this context?

 

Basically a Clevo reseller that gives you the option of having PremaMod in your machine pre-installed by the shop, and providing full support for the BIOS.

 

Eurocom for sure, as they are sponsoring this work. Only a small number of Clevo resellers are PremaMod partners, and I am not aware of any Sager dealers that are. I am not privy to any details of his partner agreements or how his partners plan to roll it out to their customers. There is a list on his web site. It may vary by partner... have no idea. Some may choose to charge for a warranty to accompany the firmware upgrades due to the increased risk of damage associated with noobs overclocking. Obviously, that presents added risk for them that some may choose not to assume as a freebie. At some point the firmware should be freely available (donation suggested) to those that wish to unleash the beast without any warranty from the vendor they purchased their machine from. Some vendors may actually void the warranty if any firmware or hardware mods are applied.

Just finished 7 consecutive Tower victories with Goro handing out fatalities like candy canes at Christmas.

 

Yes contact your reseller and tell them to replace the RAM stick for you, it is faulty...

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Looks like with some prema love,non k processor carriers will be able to do some form of minor BCLK overclocking.Though may not be near anything compared to a K i guess its something to toy with.Maybe @ Mr. Fox can offer his expertise on the matter. Asrock has released some firmware for their boards with some interesting details.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1108-intel-locked-skylake-cpu-bclk-overclocking/

 

All right.. I will sent to them everything.. I hope they will check seriusly next time.. However thanks Tom you give me a big help