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Do you know why?
Is it possible that new drivers from Nvidia doesnt work in the future, so we need a new vbios?
Or have nvidia make some sh*t in the new driver?

Btw.
Have send you a pm

 

That's what happens when you introduce a lot of control crap into your driver and vBIOS and constantly keep changing values as complains by OEMs come in that it needs to be adjusted...
You end up having a hard time getting it all under one roof and working for all revisions.

TBH, I think the 361 driver is the first sign that they have lost the plot and are having to compromise by focusing on compatibility for the latest vBIOS/BIOS values they sent to their customer or loose it all.

 

All signs they need to man up and stop listening to OEMs and just make everything as control-free, simple, open access and generic as possible. Just make it work and tell 'em to shut up. And, for the love of God, stop trying to play god/nanny with overclocking and let us do whatever the heck we feel like doing. I put this in the "mind your own damned business and stop minding mine" category. If I want to break my stuff, let me. I'd rather break my own stuff than have them do it before I even have a chance to use it, LOL. Keep the GeForce Experience bloatware, screw the G-SYNC, just give us good, stable drivers and an uncrippled vBIOS that blindly follows all orders without asking any questions for pity's sake. The kids that need help need to stay in their bedrooms and play games on their XBOX or PlayStation and stop screwing with our beast machines.

 

My laptop isn't sleeping or turning off I have to manually hold the power button down for it to go off ive tried resetting windows and it has made no difference any suggestions as to what I might do to fix it please

 

Do you have a large overclock or cstates disabled? If so both of these can cause the restart process to fail.

This prob has also been identified with win10 and nvidia drivers.

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@indup - do you have Windows 10? If so, you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to turn it off. How on earth is Micro$lop supposed to spy on you and push malware updates to your system if it is turned off? Hmmm? Sorry pal, it has to stay turned on. That's just part of the deal now. Check the EULA. " Thou shalt not own thine own computer from henceforce, even forever. Thy data is not thy data, and thou agreest that Lord Redmond owneth thy bottom from this day forth."

 

No overclock or anything it's basically stock as it came and yes Windows 10 was working perfectly fine up to the few days ago and it just started do you think a clean install of Windows would make any difference as I've already tried a Windows reset and It didn't have any effect
I'm always Coming to and from the
laptop so it's a necessity that I at least have sleep ability

 

I was just clowning with you, bro. It could be something as simple as a driver not playing nice. Resolving sleep and hibernation problems can be difficult. As Brother @GTVEVO mentioned, others are having similar issues with NVIDIA's latest craptastic drivers. Doing a clean OS install would be a good way of cutting to the chase instead of wasting hours troubleshooting. As you are installing drivers, test between each driver installation to see if the problem returns, and that will identify if one of the drivers you are using is the culprit.

 

I wonder if I can run that 4.4 setup when I get my machine in with one 330psu. Single 980 desktop on mine. Although I'll have the adapter and extra psu if needed.


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Yes one PSU with a GTX 980 AND GPU overclocked will run.

2x980Ms use much more power.

So I just did a battery drain run.

High performance, full brightness (AUO 4K panel), no display timeout, throttlestop profile for 3.8ghz on all cores on load, wi-fi on with a light web browsing load constantly.

I managed to get an hour and 10 minutes LOL.

 

@Mr. Fox

How does this memory benchmark look? Running my Samsung 64GB @ 2666 MHz.

 

Looks fantastic, bro. You got that 2133 memory just screaming. Nice job.

 

Indeed, overclocked you can get each 980M in the 175W region so they chow down on more than a single 330W brick by themselves.

 

What exactly do you mean? I don't fully understand this bit. Is it that they've added so much crap that old vBIOSes no longer work with new drivers which are tuned specifically for new vBIOSes (which have more stupid crap in them)? And what does that mean for me as a 780M user right now? Or someone with a non-gsync 900M card? Will we find problem after problem with 361.43 without a fresh new throttle-ready vBIOS, having the last driver useful for the card be 359.06 (or 359.12)?

I'm not really in the business of updating for no benefit anymore since they insist on not actually doing anything but breaking PCs, so I'm still on 355.60, but I will EVENTUALLY need to update in the future, and then there's the issue with 980 and 900M users with this, and all the DM-G notebooks of this gen.

 

@Mr. Fox Been running my Samsung 64GB 2133 MHz @ 2666 MHz for over 4 hours with no crash and I even increased my CPU overclock from 42x4 to 43x4.

Adaptive voltage, -140mV offset on both the CPU and cache, Cache Ratio = 43, all cores = 43 multiplier

Here are the wPRIME scores / max temps in HWMonitor

 

How did you OC the memory so much?

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Change one value in the BIOS... leave 133 ratio and change multiplier to 10 (2133 is 8 by default, 2400 is 9 by default) and *BOOM* 2133 magically becomes 2666. Of course, this assumes the memory modules will handle it. With the Samsung and Kingston sticks the 2133 default timings are good up to 2666 with no other changes.

 

Samsung memory is good imo.

My desktop 2133mhz ddr4 overclocked to 2400mhz easily and probably could have gone higher (crippled alienware bios only goes up to 2400).

@Mr. Fox do you run 2666mhz or 2800mhz on the kingston 2400mhz memory?

 

My Kingston 2400 won't overclock to 2666 just black screens

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Try 2800MHz instead.

I'm serious.

 

I don't have any spare ddr4 dims so is there any risk?

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About as much risk as there was going to 2666 I'd say.

 

Most of the time, 2666. Fire Strike does OK with 2800, but 3DMark 11 doesn't play nice with the RAM at that speed. I think the 1.200V limit isn't enough for 3DMark 11, since it is so much more demanding.

Might as well try it. Worst case scenario, you'll have to pull the CMOS battery to reset NVRAM. May have to do it a few times to get it to take a huge crap on itself and revert to BIOS defaults, but it might work. You might want to try 2666 with just two sticks installed. If it black screens, swap them out and test again. You may have one stick that is buggered up.

For 2800, set the ratio to 100 and the multiplier to 14. Bump the timings to 15-15-15-37 for testing (won't boot with CL14) or try 16-16-16-39 if CL15 is not stable.

If you are running RAID versus AHCI, spam the snot out of the F2 key and jump into the BIOS to change it back to RAID before loading Windows or it might totally hose your RAID volume. The BIOS default is AHCI and that has utterly destroyed my RAID volumes about a half dozen times now. That was always after flashing a new mod, but I finally set aside my lifelong preference for RAID0 because reinstalling Windows so many times and losing all of my data files was just a massive pain in the butt. If you're quick on the draw and flip it back to RAID before the Windows Boot Manager tries to kick in it should be fine.

 

Should we have received thermal pads with our P870DM for the M.2 drives? I bought my M.2 drive separately but there were no thermal pads for it. Wondering how hot it is running.

 

No way to overvolt SODIMMs I assume? Can't even get to 1.3v, let alone 1.35v?

 

Only via XMP profiles written with Thaiphoon Burner...

 

*sigh* I guess we need to wait for even better laptops then?

I don't get why so many locks are necessary in a $2000+ machine DESIGNED for high performance T_T.

 

Here's the Kingston DDR4 2400 @ 2666Mhz:

 

very similar results to mine @ 2666 MHz.

Margin of error maybe:

 

Yup and we both were @ 4.3Ghz so the results are very similar.

 

Well pushed a bit further today as I get comfortable with my settings, 4.6ghz still because its rock solid stable was used for these test pushing me up to an all time high score for my @Prema Equipped Eurocom Sky x9

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7058318

17676

 

I'm gonna put this 1080P screen EDID backup right here, just in case. If I don't then somebody may need it. Since I am using server space to store this file to be prepared for a Precision X mishap, then it is likely nobody will ever have any use for it. If @ssj92 wants to put a backup of his here also, then nobody with a 4K screen will have any use for it.

 

AUO B173ZAN01.0 EDID for 4K 17.3" P870DM model.

 

Hey guys, has anyone else experienced rattling or buzzing with their speakers?

 

Nice!
Do you still have an old stock BIOS/EC/ME/vBIOS/RAM bench @ stock clocks that you could directly compare it against?

Would be really nice to see how far this system has come after 2 months work!

 

I will see what I can dig up, I should have something to compare

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I have the stock benchmarks, tomorrow I'll create the new benchmarks and post them.

I know that I got 1000 extra 3DMarks in 3DMark 11, 650 3DMarks in FireStrike, 100 points more in AS SSD Benchmark, that's at the same 4.2 GHz but the difference is, with the stock BIOS/EC, the throttling was killing the performance, and now the added OC from the RAM made a bit of a difference as well.

 

Playing around with a single 980M with my 24/7 CPU clock:

+270Mhz Core/+500Mhz Memory:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10760182

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10086954?

Just some benches I did early on, they do show the difference. Of course later on I'll push the system even further to widen that gap.

Stock:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6996002

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10741099

Prema Magic:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10743618

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7010221

And here's 4.7Ghz CPU in 3DM FS:



Sorry they're not exactly at the same clocks. lol

 

Found it! Stock Vs. Community:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7058318/fs/6760076#

 

Stock with max gpu overclock Vs. Community

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/6465554/fs/7058318

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Seeing as how it's fresh in my mind since my friend just bought a 980Ti superclocked card, I can say 980Ti cards with about 1300 base clock (plus boost) get somewhere around 4000 points less on the GPU score than that. Nice 980M SLI score.

Now if that's stable for 24/7 usage, you'd be golden.

 

It's slightly ahead of my fully overclocked titan-x at that resolution.

 

In hindsight, this might have been from Precision X bricking the LCD. Gonna have to check this again in a few days now that the screen is fixed (only have one GPU in the Panther right now).

 

What is wrong since the 1024M score is so low(167,878 sec)with 43X4?

 

And because of these services you provide us, and your general awesomeness, DONATION has been sent to you!

Show your appreciation, people, if you can

 

@Prema @Mr. Fox @toughasnails @Ethrem

Just to show you what the PREMA BIOS does, with the stock settings, if I run an AIDA64 stability test, the clock speeds drop down to a freakin' 3.6 GHz for God's Sake! With the PREMA BIOS, and upping the OC Ratio on all cores to 42, increasing the current limit to 250A and a few small tweaks, while running the AIDA64 benchmark stability test, the clock SPEEDS never EVER drop below 4.2 GHz and the max temp is 88C which is under extreme load, and this is with the 64GB Samsung 2133 MHz RAM overclocked to 2666 MHz

I didn't try 2800 MHz but I will soon just for kicks

Prema, your magic is a gift sent from heaven

 

Seems that your prayers had been answered at last....

 

Heads up guys 44 hours and counting = http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/oculus-rift-news-and-pre-orders.786281/

 

@Phoenix
The Fanspeed Auto or Full?


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During the benchmark, full, for my everyday use, Auto. That is because the stress bench places abnormal load on the CPU that is not what happens in normal day to day usage scenarios.