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So I been messing more with this OC.. stock OC no voltage or anything until I speak to the OC rep from Mythlogic tomorrow. I noticed when I applied the OC I was getting artifacts in the battle net launcher before even getting into the game. I kept messing with my Core and whether it was +130 or +100 I was STILL getting them. So then I started messing with memory and once I got it down to 100 the artifacts went away. Now I have no idea how this will be gaming until I test but I was kind of shocked to see I could bump my core back up to 130 and the memory down to 100 and so far so good.

Edit: Spoke to soon driver crashed soon as I got into game -_-

Is there any correlation to where the Core and Memory are at like a ratio?? I have never had many issues with stock GPU OCing before like I am now. It does run fine stock and the temps are nice and cool just a FYI.

 

This, so many times this. I've purchased a Sager NP9870-S with SLI 980M's and was going nuts for a week trying to figure out why one card ran at 83C at IDLE. Removed and reinstalled so much software and so many drivers, did a clean reinstall and installed the reference GeForce drivers again, same issue.

Finally, thanks to Phoenix (and his drivers mirror, that's brilliant) I've clean installed the 359.00 drivers from Clevo and boom, 42C at idle and no throttling. Cheers, Phoenix, you're a godsend.

 

thank you for the nice comments man. Rep added to you

 

Incredible score That's faster than stock 980m if I remember correctly.
Did you run this with max fans? Do you remember the temp it was hovering around ?

 

Well I had just core OCed to +130 and no memory and still getting driver crashing. I am on 359.14 do I need to try 359? Aren't they pretty much the same?

@Prema maybe you can offer some help with this since Mythlogic is a partner with you guys

 

Hello all, just joined up.
Having read the multiple discussions on this forum, I bought the XMG U726. Anyone interested in the configuration I have chosen?

 

Yeah, the temps are in the picture in the Spoiler. They were max. 53° & 52°, I was running Max Fans.

 

Does it run with those values on auto fan too? Temps would be around 65° I think.

 

Welcome dammit, lol

How're you finding it? Come on, no teasing, tell us all

 

Haven't tried it on Auto Fans. I'll give it a run tomorrow and see

 

I have the XMG 726 also, and it's pretty great....

 

Sorry, l meant l have ordered. Now comes the wait and the anticipation.

 

It is faster than a stock 980m

Fans were at max speed (FN+1)

Max temps on CPU were in the high 50s and GPU were also high 50s maybe peak was like 61C.

The cooling on the P570WM is the best.

 

Hello all. Planning to get one of these bad boys with my tax return, most likely with 980m SLI. Wanted to ask a couple questions to those who've already got one. My planned build:

6700k
16GB DDR4 2400
980m SLI
2x Samsung 950 Pro 256GB (Raid-0)
2x Samsung EVO 1TB
Windows 10

It will be primarily for gaming (FFXIV ARR, Overwatch, The Division, League of Legends, etc), but I'll also do the occasional tinkering with photoshop, recording & editing short videos for youtube & I'm planning to go back to school using this as well. I should also note that I plan to buy & hook it up to an Acer Predator x34 1440p ultrawide down the line.

Will I need a 2nd power brick & the converter to keep it from throttling under heavy gaming/load @ stock settings?

Is there a set of OC settings someone can recommend, that won't kill the temps, or put me at too much of a risk, that's actually enough of an improvement to be worth it?

How is the audio quality of the speakers in comparison to most built-in non-gaming specific monitor speakers?

Has anyone tried the Creative SB Omni with this thing, when using external speakers? Worth it?

Other then the usual advice I often see to wait for the next gen GPUs, does anyone have any info on an upcoming laptop (980 SLI, or better with internal G-Sync) that will Trump this, that may release in the next 3 months?

Any further recommendations in specific to my planned build (not interested in single 980)?

 

Clevo P870DM-G Review

 

A review that goes 29 pages means there is a lot that wasn't answered by the OP. The only question I got answered out of that review was for the audio.

 

Q1. Very much likely if you have prema bios that fixes current throttling.
Q2. Depends on Silicon lottery. Every oc setting is different.
Q3. Been answered.

 

Well to sum it all up for you

After owning the 980M SLI setup I regretted it so much due to bad support in some recent titles and due to microsuttering which I can feel, even when watching movies

I am not getting the same system again but with the desktop 980 GTX

Doing a RAID 0 out of the NVMe will only tax the CPU since laptops don't have a dedicaed RAID controller, you would be better off getting a single 950 PRO 512GB, it's fast as hell! and better access times, less headaches

if you RAID them, you won't even be able to use the Samsung NVMe driver you can only use the IRST driver which in turn, will decrease your 4K Random Read/Write by 10%. That is what matters most in terms of programs/OS snapinness not the stupidly high sequential speeds which you would only benefit from when copying gigantic files from one drive to the other. It's an NVMe SSD after all its speed on a single drive are close to RAID without the headaches of RAID.

If you are still determined to get the 980M, a dual power adapter is a must and even then, if you don't tweak the BIOS and have the PREMA BIOS, you will suffer from sever throttling down to 3.6 GHz on stock settings, with a desktok 980 GTX that won't happen and you can still have the convenience of using a single power adapter if you don't plan on any extreme overclock



PS: Eurocom will be releasing a new Sky X9 soon with Dual 980 desktop GPUs in SLI. But again, me personally, I will never buy SLI again

Single GPU FTW

 

TYVM Tgipier =^_^=
1. Guess I gotta get used to lugging around 2 bricks then. Gonna need a big bag.
2. Stock is probably enough for me, was just curious if I could find something simple to immitate. Even on my desktops I usually run stock. My pockets aren't that deep. I'm buying this thing with my tax return, with a little help from my new wife (I dumped a couple thousand on a wedding she just wanted sooo much, so she's helping repay me lol).
3 & 4. Yep. Glad to see they are so nice. I'll be able to put off purchasing speakers for a while, as they aren't a true necessity for this it seems. For headphones I'm going to be using this weird, but cute headset my wife got me:

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I'll be getting her a pair in return, in another color most likely, to match my old desktop I'm giving her. They're not bad at all, very unique, they light up, but the outer speakers for sharing your music don't have all the bass the cans do. The cans even turn, so they can rest flat on your upper chest, when you've got it just laying around your neck. Probably make my laptop's lighting match these blue ones I got. Guess I won't need the Omni.
5. I've read a few rumors about the 4K screen. Is there in fact a G-Sync one in the works, or is it just the plain old 4K one I believe may already be available?

 

Well I know FFXIV ARR should be OK with the SLI & LoL will be good with or without SLI on. Just not sure about Overwatch & The Division as they're not out yet. Microstuttering even in movies? really?

I'll be considering the single M.2, as it would free up a space & I could always get another 512GB and Raid-0 in the future if I'm still not happy. Not truly worried about the 10%, was just trying to go for max performance at stock, with the best parts I could afford.

So ya, getting the 2 bricks + converter then. I'm going to be selling my Titan-X I bought a while back, to help fund this laptop. Going back to school was a sudden decision, but long in the making. I originally had planned to build a desktop, but I'm just going to hand down the case & fans I bought to my wife & use them to raise the aesthetics of my old machine I'm giving her. I had already planned to get the Prema BIOS with all the high praise from everyone. Since I'm coming from a Titan-X, I didn't want to go down in GPU performance, so that is the main reason I want the 980m SLI over the single 980.

Any idea on a time period (month), when we might see that new Sky X9? Do you have any links to any articles about this? That sounds VERY tempting. April would be the latest I'd be willing to wait for it though. Having 2 980 though.... would definitely solve my GPU performance preference, as well as ensure that no matter what, I'd probably still be VR ready, since 980m SLI hasn't been declared viable yet.

The reasons I'm not considering the MSI GT80S Titan SLI-072 are:
1. No G-Sync!!!!!!
2. It lacks the desktop level processing power the P870DM-G brings to the table with the 6700K.
3. I like RGB & not being stuck with one color (Hate Red). Almost everything we own, including furniture is Blue, Hot Pink, or Black. I can't stand that MSI, Asus & others are making everything mostly black & red.
4. Not sure if the Clevo AC-100 Converter is compatible & would allow for 2 power bricks with this GT80S, to prevent throttling with those 2 980's.

 

It's not officially listed on Eurocom's site, but considering what they said in some emails, the dual 980 should already be available for purchase.

 

From what I heard from someone on this site, its 3 month from now.

 

would it be the same motherboard? like if I have a Sky x9 with a Single desktop 980, can I just add the 2nd one or it would be a whole diff. motherboard/chassis?

 

On Auto Fans it only runs a few Deg. warmer than with Max. Fans, highest was 57°/55°. Here's a picture of my highest score so far...13593. Haven't been able to repeat it again though...

Spoiler

 

I have no clue at this point but it peaks my interest for sure. Assumptions that it will most likely be the same board but the GPUS will not be the 200 watt monster 980, so the pcb will not be as big to allow 980 sli.

They are using a 180watt 980 in the sky x7 so I was asking eurocom if this is what they will be using in the sky x9 if the rumor is true but no reply yet.

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Well, it looks like I've found the OC'ing limits of my 970m's. It just won't go (or at least I can't get it to go any higher) above 13593 in Fire Strike, and that was only once...The've stabilizied between 13540 & 13569. The settings are BC +350, MC +480 & +125mV. If I push to 355/485 the Driver crashes and if I push the Voltage to +137,5mV it will BSOD. I'm pretty happy with the scores tough, it looks like the #1 FS score with 970m SLi is 13501 on 3DMark.

 

Wish this thing had Pascal. Tired of waiting...

 

Hey man, you are the one keep hyping yourself out.
Just enjoy what you have now and upgrade at the first/second gen of mobile pascal. I can almost guarantee the first gen pascal will have crippled parts.

 

Can't enjoy what I have because I don't have anything to enjoy.

 

Just got off chat with Josh from Mythlogic. Very helpful! He updated my vbios to allow me to have no restrictions for OCing. @Mr. Fox do you have any suggestions for voltage and a core/memory config I could try on gtx 980? I am starting low and working my way up but I was curious as to your thoughts?

 

Unless a new 980 is in the works, the 180W 980s are the ones we will see in SLI in the P870DM. There are no other candidates at this point.

 

Ok guys I need some expert feedback on this one. I have run about 20 firestrike benchmarks with my gpu set to +175/200 voltage +37.5mV with absolutely no problems. However within 5 minutes, usually within 2, in bioshock infinite for example the drivers crash. No BSOD just driver crash. What gives??


Edit: Here are some scores of FS and FS Extreme

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10448219?

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10448403?

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Hey guys, after a big of advice. Once i receive my refund from dell for my faulty alienware i'm looking at getting a cleavo-870. It's the same price to get dual 970m's or a single 980m. I've seen plenty of reviews with the 980m and my own benchmarks with the alienware, but i was looking at some first hand feedback from anyone that has the dual 970's.

 

Alright! As soon as I am back, I will chime in and provide some feedback about my 970m's!

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How about day to day? Gaming, performance? i've been out of the game for so long using a macbook with no dedicated desktop. Last gaming pc i had, had dual 8600gts haha

 

Ya if it makes it through firestrike that doesn't always mean it will be stable in all games. Gaming overclocked takes more stability in most cases as some games are not optimized bringing out the worst case scenario.

My recommendations is add a bit more voltage as long as your temps are ok and retest with your game. If you can run another game and you will see if it's this certain game or not.

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So you think it's probably voltage related??? My temps are awesome so I have room to work

 

Well that's a small overclock so you should be able to get it stable, stability is usually power and temp related if you are within obtainable clocks which those are.

But keep in mind some games will not like overclocks due to their optimization and drivers. GTA5 was a prime example of this at one time.

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I have gotten crashes in both BioShock and world of Warcraft... Yet never in firestrike. It's definitely not temp related I'm still in 60s and 70s. So I guess more voltage??

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Yup give it a shot there is nothing to loose by bumping the voltage just a notch or two.

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The "Fox Clocks" page on the Sky X9 review at Prema Mod.com is in draft form and will be live once approved for publication.

You may have noticed that our review title has been tweaked and an "E" has been tacked onto the end of the product name. We will be revealing the reasons (yes, there is more than one reason) for that very soon. Until then, feel free to let your imaginations run wild.

 

Confession is good for the soul @Mr. Fox. You will feel so much better when you share with us.

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Just checked Eurocom site. Looks like x9e("Extreme Edition") is basically the x9 with prema + Mr.Fox mods in the review! http://www.eurocom.com/ec/future()ec
@Mr. Fox that it or is there something more?

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Can't wait to see what that "E" stands for.
I am also thinking of extreme, extended, expanded, extraordinary.... haha

 

That is so cool, great achievement and great idea!

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I was imagining a system with SLI GTX980.

 

Hi.

You will NOT need a second power brick for stock CPU/GPU settings as far as I know.

You would likely need a second power brick to get a stable OC, but I'd go as far as to say that a +150MHz/300MHz OC (core/mem) will likely be stable for your 980Ms from what I've gathered on the forum. Your CPU will simply be temp limited more than anything, but 4.3GHz or so should be easily achieve-able without CLU or any modding etc but with the basic system capabilities.

This laptop should have 980 SLI in a few months, though only from Eurocom (so far) that I know of.

I would however make some suggestions on your intended selection.
- Don't bother raiding. Just grab one drive. When it comes to random read/write which makes up the bulk of things that happen on the SSD, you'll have the same (or worse) performance using RAID, but you'll be using up two slots. No bueno.
- If you're getting the 850 EVO drives to raid, or to use for the same thing, just get a single 2TB drive. The price works out to be near the same as buying separate drives. Even if you don't buy the drives from Eurocom or Mythlogic (they're usually cheaper on Amazon) and just get the one you want for your OS. The other drives will have long warranties on their own, so don't worry about that. That also frees up a second slot for a SATA drive.
- I suggest Wni 10 Pro if you want Windows 10.

You need not a new motherboard from what I know, however you will need new heatsinks. The single 980 is not designed to take up only one slot, so obviously a second one cannot simply be "added". You would need to buy the two 980s to use in SLI separately. Your current single 980 will need to be not in the system at all. A new motherboard design would make it NOT a P870DM.

First, let's dial it back. You've said that stock breaks things. Have you gotten stock under control? If not, get stock under control.

Run everything you want to run on stock. One after the other, don't allow the system to idle. Maybe after 30 minutes of one title, just save and move on to the next title. Get the system in a long gaming session with varying games. If you start crashing, check the drivers first. If no driver works properly with using DDU (359.00 or 359.06 works; maybe the Clevo 359.00 driver might work better than the normal download, I don't know) then RMA the machine. It's possible that the GPU took damage or simply died between their testing and shipping it out. I turned off my laptop and turned it back on about an hour later on Thursday and it refused to boot. Turns out a stick of RAM died in that hour. I'm down to 12GB for the time being. Stuff can happen anytime.

Now, if you DO get stock under control and you can't get overclocks to work, then let's try process of elimination. Does overvolting at stock clocks break it? Does raising the core alone break it? Does raising the memory alone break it? Does raising core and voltage with no memory break it? Does raising memory and voltage but leaving the core alone break it? We find out what the problem is. Check the heatsink contact once you narrow it down. Maybe the pats are improperly set, or the heatsink's contact is not great, and it's fine for some titles at stock but not for others, and the overclock gets broken. Who knows? I can't say. Find the cause and fix the problem. There can be no solution without knowledge of the cause. Any "solution" without addressing the cause is like just putting a band aid on it.

 

Working on some CPU tuning this morning before real work, I think this is a new record for the SKY x9 in physics!

 

Eurocom Sky X9 is like the energize bunny, keeps going and going...still at 4.6ghz but some additional fine tuning.

 

@GTVEVO are you using TS to overclock or bios?