*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

Think about it this way, you get to try your hand at the silicon lottery again. Not many get that chance.

 

Just incase if you guys havent heard enough, @Prema is a genius. There is an option to prevent too high clock making the bios unbootable!! Barring a second bios chip on board, this is the best safety net!

Hmmm, a dual bios laptop like the older precisions would be nice....

 

One option when you are out of warranty is getting a socket added to the motherboard in place of the bios chip and grabbing an external programmer which I have with my current machine.

 

I am so baffled as to why I am getting GPU driver crashes on the SAME OC I ran before the intel management update. Am I missing something here? I had zero issues with using the OC config I have been using and now all of the sudden artifacts and crash. What gives???

 

That is the exact same problem mine had before both GPUs failed. You're going to have to RMA it, sorry.

 

Your overclock might have been unstable for something you (your machine) wasn't using before and it is now. Happened to me many times.
I had the same motherboard and processor on my desktop (3930k) during some upgrades and I had to turn the Overclock down from 4,7Ghz to 4.6Ghz when updating from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and then on the first major OS update on Windows 10 I could dial it back to 4.7Ghz.


Oh, and Update on my Sky X9:
I had installed that thing that prevent my Windows 10 spywares and its windows update was turned off and I had forgot that with the excitment of my new machine. After I let Windows do some updates (and then turned it off again), my Sky X9 is singing again!

Now I'm only chasing the right gaming Overclock (because WItcher 3 can get my GPUs temps pretty high during a 3-4 hour gaming session in my 30C summer nights).
Using only +60mhz Core and +350MHZ vRAM, I'm achieving +10-15 fps than stock on Witcher 3, which is huge. My frames during gameplay with everything maxed plus many visual mods is being between 65 to 80 fps, which runs GORGEOUS on this 100hz overclocked monitor! My CPU is locked on 4.0 Ghz (without C states for stability, @Firebat246 that might also help you), with -80 offset on Prema Bios with adaptive voltage. It is geting around 70C playing Witcher and the GPUs, one stays around 73-79C and the other stays around 79-81C, this with all coolers on MAX, and I still don't have delided as I hadn't found CLU in Brazil =( and Amazon charges like 45USD for shipping.

 

Here are the safe/stable settings for a 4.2GHz overclock on all 4 cores with cache ratio set to 42, no throttling, max temps of 80-85C while gaming using stock IC Diamond / no CPU delid

System stability done using AID64 and monitoring using HWMonitor

Tested on my previous Eurocom Sky X9 and now the current Sky X9, so it was perfectly safe on 2 systems

Settings suggested by @Mr. Fox

 

@Phoenix what is your load VID?

 

check the last image in the screen above, during the stress test, it says max of 1.220V

 

Mine is at 4.5ghz with a load vid of 1.24v. I physically cant get it any lower as in the voltage is stuck there no matter what I do.

 

If I set the voltage to static the temps reach 100C and thus Throttle, so adaptive voltage worked for me better both on this system and the previous one which was stolen.

 

This is more than awesome!!

Thank you very much for this!!
(the Forum didn't allowed me to give you rep again, as I'm new I think I need to spread it more haha)

 

No problem bro, I hope these settings help you and others. Just by using those settings, my WPrime score went up from 6.4 seconds to 5.3 seconds. So at stock, the CPU really sucks as it throttles and doesn't have enough turbo/current power to hold a real 4.2 GHz clock speed.

 

If you use the exact same setting except changing the clock to stock, what VID do you get on load? I been noticing the stock and OC VID changes despite the exact same voltage config.

 

Hey @Phoenix , I copied your setup to see how it works for me. As I just started reLly messing with my system yesterday, I'm still very novice to that enourmous range of things that Prema Bios allows, and your settings were hugely enlightening.

As I'm concerned with my GPU temps, I let the CPU as coole as possible to give me more room to overclock the GPUs for long gaming sessions. Then I set the CPU only at 4ghz.

Like that, if I enable C states it become unstable, but with it disabled seems stable so far.

 

hi guys. I have a issue with my p870dm that I received 3 days ago. I have noticed the GPU fans won't crank up sometimes, making the temperature go above 80 degree Celsius while gaming so I have to manually put the fans on max speed (in control center), which then drops the temp in between 65-70 Celsius. this is getting pretty annoying as I always have to check the temp in control center. any help would be very appreciated.

BTW i am running everything on stock settings (no OC or mods). i have updated the control center to version 5.0000.0.35 but both the stock version and latest version is giving me this issue.

 

Did you install the Intel extreme tuning utility aka XTU? If so and you uninstalled it please reinstall it. If you remove your fans will stop responding.

Next you will want to select the overclock profile in the hot key control center utility. I have noticed if the system goes to sleep sometimes you have to flip the setting to automatic and then back to overclock otherwise it defaults to the automatic profile.

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Hey there!

First, with any overclock utility try setting -100 to -150 offset voltage, as this will help keep your CPU temps lower (as they came as if "overvoltaged"in stock settings), as they are in the same "packaging" this will help to cool your GPU as well.

For that people here recommend Throttle Stop instead of XTU, so avoid using XTU as it messes with Control Center fans system. But if came already installed in your machine its fine to use it, just never uninstall it.

Secondly, I'd like to say, that every time I'm going to start a long game session (as I will do in about 10 minutes) I set the max fan control on Gaming Center. I always play with a headset to use 7.1 surround (or through Razer surround or through the headset itself) so the fan's noise don't really bothers me. For short gaming sessions I'm not concerned with immersion enough for the fans noise spoil any fun ;-)

 

You should not need to max fan to run even a long session, it should handle itself properly. Make sure you are cleaned out heatsink wise and talk to your reseller, there may be updated firmware for the machine.

 

Thanks for the reply. I never installed XTU and my laptop didn't come with it preinstalled either. I will try the overclock profile like you suggested.

Thanks for the reply. I have no experience with overclocking so I would like to keep it stock I never had XTU in my laptop or throttlestop. Is it ok to run the fan on 100% during 5-6 hours of gaming session?

Thanks for the reply. I opened the laptop yesterday to install a ssd. The heat sinks and fans looks absolutely clean. I will contact the reseller regarding the firmware. Right now I have all the latest softwares from the Clevo website.

 

I know nothing about PCIe SSDs, so can anyone recommend me a decent PCIe SSD that will work in this machine?

Preferably one without the issue @phoneix is having. I get bad headaches looking at flashing images.

Also would this bag work for carrying this beast? http://www.ncix.com/detail/targus-17-inch-groove-backpack-3a-121271-1314.htm

If not, would this one work? http://www.ncix.com/detail/targus-voyager-17-3in-notebook-backpack-39-41149.htm

I rather not get a titan bag since it weighs so much just by itself.

 

We should be getting a few more options on the PCI-E SSD front in the coming months, at the moment there is not much choice.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/CybertronPC-unveils-Osiris-and-Anubis-gaming-notebooks.158751.0.html

looks like eurocom and other providers should follow soon. HYPE

 

As much as I want to upgrade to this, I think I will save my money for pascal.

I mean, I think I will go for the basic RAM, backpack, cooling pad, and possibly PCIe SSD but save whatever I can so I can get the new pascal as soon as they are released.

 

Hey, I found something nice!

Its not properly a "discovery" but its a very nice setting config for very heavy games like Witcher 3.

First, even if I max out my fan speed as I usually do, my GPU temps tend to get to 89-90C on hottest one even with stock clocks (consider that I'm in Brazil with 30C summer nights).

Then if I dialed my screen pixel clock back to 75hz, and turned ON Vertical Sync, even if I overclocked both my GPUs to amazing 1301mhz (+175core, +350vRAM, with no voltage increase), which is enough to compare them to GTX 980 Desktop with stock clocks, I wasn't barely hitting 85C, because with those clocks I could be like 90% of the time ABOVE the 75fps (and I'm talking about Witcher 3 with everything absolutely maxed and some mods to improve it evenfurther), which was caped with Vertical Sync, and then not using 99% GPU power and then the GPUs got colder than with stock settings.

Oh, and the screen at 75hz with G-Sync is absolutely smooth! It is such that I can feel the difference when the frames get close to 60-65fps, and from 75 to 100 (which was my previous setting) I couldn't feel almost no difference at all.

Also, as I said before, I was using the BIOS settings @Phoenix posted, but with 4Ghz and C states disabled. My CPU rarely got over 60C giving more room for the GPUs temps.

I'm really loving these settings (and this machine, which I'm playing with for only 3 days now!!). For lighter games I play like Fallout 4, Diablo or Dark Souls, I still need to find the right setup, but I believe I'll just use 100hz on the screen and not care much about temps, as I believe they won't be as high, but lets still see.

To overclock both my GTX980m to 1301-1311mhz I almost use all the room for cooling this laptop offers. I'm not even getting close to the max overclock these cards can do, as they get to their temp limits already easy enough. I'm talking about gaming sessions with heavy games as I said on the post before. I'm sure that this is completely different for benches.
At those clocks they get pretty comparable (if not surpass) to desktop 980 in SLI.
I wonder if with the cooling solution that it offers being the same, would be possible to overclock both 980-desktop SLI much further away from the heavily overclocked 980m in SLI like this.

 

^depends on the power consumption. I still maintain the position that if you want to sit on the same machine for 3 years, get the 980 desktops. If you are like me and have an OCD on always running the newest gpu setups, get the 980m SLI. Why? Well, the 980 desktop will cost a quite bit more then 980m, and a heavily OCed 980m can still compete. There is the second issue about selling the cards after you upgrade. I have no idea if the 980 desktop mini is compatible with any other laptops and it will be much harder to sell those cards off. If you are planning on upgrading to pascal once that releases, get 980m and save your money. If you want to wait until at least volta, go for the 980 desktop sli.

Also I bought this machine before any of this.

 

Imagine this (correct me if I'm wrong)

As it is still the same architecture, both 980 and 980m will have the same performance per clock per core, so, the power draw per each core with the same clock will be equal, so the power draw-per-performance will be veeery close, if not the same.

Then a p870/Sky X9/Phobos with two PSUs only to support its 980m in SLI overclcking will always outperform a GT80 with its 980desktop SLI with a single 330W PSU.

And then, with the same heat dissipation solution being maxed on the p870 by both the 980m SLI and 980desktop SLI, both solutions having near identical PowerDraw-per-Performance, and both having the same dissipation solution and this dissipation isn't enough for them both achieve their maximum power draw, both will perform very close in the hands of the same overclocker.

(again, I mean for long gaming sessions, not benchmarks which draws powers in "spikes" not long enough to overwhelm the dissipation solution)

EDIT: rewrote some parts to try to make myself clearer =P. Sometimes my english fails me.

 

Hello,
@Phoenix would you be so kind to share your 980 (desktop) temps after 20-25 minutes of running the Valley benchmark?
Mine hovers round 81-83C with 28 C room temperature.
I've used Gelid thermal paste.

I really don't mind more numbers from more people so please join in, the Valley benchmark is tough but not aggressive as Furmark so it's "safe"

Thank you all for your help !

 

Not too bad for 3DMark 11 considering it is Windows 8.1. Finally got the Physics score over 13K, which is not difficult under Windows 7.

 

I will never touch furmark, it can cause serious damage to your hardware.

I will let you know about the Valley Benchmarks momentarily.

 

I feel a pit in me wallet

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I use the stock IC Diamond that came with the laptop.

Fan profiles set to AUTOMATIC

Using U3 Cooling Pad under the laptop

Max Temp = 79C, average temp was around 72C

This is with the fans barely spinning they weren't on full blast

Wow, awesome bro, I am too scared to do that! Good job!

 

Happy new year everybody.
It's Asian New year~!

 

Chinese new year is today? I am chinese and I forgot LOL. Better order some dumplings for tonight.

 

I had a MSI GT72S before the Sky X9. To access the first 2 RAM modules you had to disassemble everyting as they were in the other side of the motherboard and the keyboard (as far as I know) did not pluged out. I had 4x8gb hyper X 2400 RAM modules that had never made into that computer because of my fear of disassembling it all hahah.

The hyper X modules are on my SkyX9 now ;-)

 

The master race has spoken.

 

...by the gods... D:

 

Does anyone know what Clevo machines these will be based on?

 

In the picture it is the p870dm.

 

"A separate Osiris 17x configuration will even be able to hold two GTX 980 GPUs, similar to the MSI GT80 Titan."

Being able to hold and able to use it effectively are not the same thing. After MSI set a really a bad example and made such a horrible mess of it based on Notebookcheck's review of the Titan, it is extremely unlikely that Clevo is going to burn any calories or R&D resources on releasing 980 SLI.

As far as fitting physically is concerned, we have known this all along and it's not new information. Unless I missed something in the article, there is nothing new here other than mention of a Clevo reseller I have never heard of before is now selling the P870DM. It's really odd that this article is being published as if there is a new system available when it's all old news except for the announcement of CybertronPC (the vendor I have never heard of) being fashionably late to the party. It reads like an advertisement that CybertronPC finally have current models for sale more than anything else. The article doesn't actually say CybertronPC is releasing it, does it?

Interesting that CybertronPC cannot get 17.3-inch 4K screens for those that want them.

 

I actually looked them up last night and their newest clevo offerings still have 880m. I am a little skeptical of them beating someone like eurocom with it to the market when eurocom had its own R&D team.

Not bashing them, just stating my views.

 

There are so many Clevo resellers--lots of unofficial distributors that buy machines "through the grapevine"--that it is impossible to keep track of them all. Their brand might be totally common and well-known in another country, plus I'm a recent Alienware convert. I never even paid attention to Clevo until @Prema BIOS made the P570WM run well enough to beat the M18xR2. Until that happened, M18xR2 was king of the hill and I didn't care about anything else, LOL.

 

Slightly OT.

Speaking of M18x R2, on your sig's link there is a thread for laptop bag that would fit a M18. Would a bag that fits a M18 also fit a phoenix fine?

 

Yes. The Sky X9 and Panther are both just a hair smaller than the M18xR1/R2 and several hairs smaller than the Alienware 18 (which is a couple of hairs bigger than the R1/R2). A bag that fits any of those 18" Alienware machines will easily accommodate the Sky X9.

 

I can vouch for this as I purchased the Alienware 18 Vindicator backpack and it fits the P870DM fine.

A sidenote, the Killer Wireless 1535AC after the update runs perfectly. No disconnects under load and ect. Gaming has extremely stable ping compared to the 8260AC issue I had.

Still waiting for the @Prema boat to arrive to I can finally post benchmarks that aren't stock.

 

For backpack, I'm using and loving the Everki Titan. It fits everything you throw at it confotably and some more. Really. I'm on my girlfriends house and brought on it my Sky X9, the two huge power adapters, a laptop table with two coolers and a few more personal things. It should be weighting around 14kg and it is still confortable!

Oh! And its beautiful and don't scream "I have a laptop inside"

 

That's what I have:

http://www.amazon.com/Everki-Checkp...8&qid=1454790629&sr=8-1&keywords=everki+titan

 

This thread is going way off-topic people.

 

This thread is going way off-topic people

 

This thread is going way off-topic people!