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I looked at the images in your post & seen that you modded too. I'm looking for one with a high height adjustment bar though, which is why I'm so concerned about the durability & height of the stop bar(s). I don't have an external monitor and probably won't have one for a while, so I'm planning to raise it up as high as I can, without resorting to gaudy things like stacking books, or anything under it.

 

I never use an external monitor. One thing in the mod I did later that is not shown in those images is add a black 1.5 inch strip of wood with rubber feet under the front edge to keep the platform level rather than angled. When I do the third mod (probably by this weekend) I will take photos and show that. I also use the cooler sitting in my lap on my recliner. The top of the arms are wide and flat, and that surface is perfect for my rigid mouse pad. The cooler keeps the machine and my lap from getting hot and bothered.

Thermaltake makes a nice cooler that should be big enough with sturdy height adjustment. @Takaezo has one of them. Let me look for information on that one for you.

 

Well I bought the one in the picture. It was only $18, so I'll give it a try. I was also looking at the Ergostand III, but couldn't find a cheap price, even on eBay. At least this one sports 6 fans.

 

Here is the one @Takaezo has if I am not mistaken. He has a Eurocom Panther/P570WM on his (much heavier than the Sky X9).

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-I...63&sr=8-1&keywords=thermaltake+massive+cooler

 

OC is not a hard task. It just needs time.
To make it easy for you, let me explain a few things.

power(W; watt) = voltage(V; volt) x current(A; ampere)

so set current to about 150A or higher. You dont need more than this if you are under 4.7 or so. This will be enough for most cases.
Now set the power limit to something like 150W too. This will be enough too.


Think of these two (current and power) as "available source".
If "source" is not enough, CPU will throttle down. But not crash.
(The one that makes your CPU crash is voltage.)

Now the only variable that matter is voltage.
And to lower the power needed for CPU for specific clock, voltage should be lowered too.
But if you lower down the voltage too much, CPU will crash as I mentioned above.

Sweet spot voltage is usually defined as "lowest voltage of CPU that can handle ANY task without ANY crash."
How can one know if it is stable i.e. no crash?

Stress tests like Linx, Prime are usually used to check the stability.
Cinebench, XTU, 3dmark physics tests can also be used but these usually consume less power and voltage which means they are less stressful tests.
You have to pass the "most stressful tests" to make it sure your OC is 100% rock-stable. Passing XTU, or cinebench or 3dmark physics aren't enough to think "the OC settting" is stable. It just means your CPU was able to pass the "less stressful" test.

Good luck.

 

Well its not ugly looking, but it's also not very high. The stands are kind of short and stubby lol. Would not suit my purposes at all.

 

Excellent advice, Brother @godfafa_kr

To add to your comments, some additional food for thought... The hotter a CPU or GPU gets, the more voltage it takes to remain stable. Keeping things cool allows you to retain stability at lower voltage.

 

Absolutely right, brother. I heard if temps goes down, resistance goes down too and as a result, voltage to remain stable also goes down.

 

I'm doing my own CPU-heavy task right now.

I'm baking the lightmap of a HUGE scenery of the air-combat-MOBA game my company is developing.

Its very CPU and RAM intensive task and it takes a whiiiile to finish with this big scenery with more than two million vertices.
It is going pretty well so far, it seems the CPU is pretty stable at 4.3ghz with -150mv. Next time I'll try 4.4.

My temps are reaching 80C, but they rarely pass this point. I'm not delidded (yet) with no CLU (yet).

 

Pretty much, hotter it gets, more leakage, ,more voltage needed etc.

 

Can someone with the division beta here gives me a heads up on SLI scaling for it? its gonna be a huge factor in my purchasing decision.

 

Friend of mine tried it on 980m sli think average fps for max settings was around 55-60. Not fully sure on that one. There are some youtube videos up for it from other people. I know it gets a good 15fps over a 980 desktop card.


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I put up a OC on my new Killer-Edition aka BGA Killer as in the desktop logo . Maximum temperature in Cinebench 11.5 was 74 degrees Celsius. Is maximum temperature too high in Cinebench 11.5 ? Cinebench 11.5 score is perhaps ok because I use 2133 ram, Raid 0 and Win X Me.

 

Hi guys
How many fps do you have in Rainbow six siege on ultra ? I have gtx980 and it can't go more than 75fps I've seen on youtube even gtx970 has around 120fps....

 

That's probably because you have G-SYNC enabled which caps your frame rate to a max of your screen's refresh rate which should be 75hz. Disable G-SYNC and try although I'd never run anything without G-SYNC after having experienced its buttery smooth motion

 

Hmm
But sometimes framerate drops to about 65 fps so this isn't constant 75fps .
Isn't a better choice to have framerate between 100-140 fps rather than 75-60 ?

 

if the FPS drops to 65 at one point, that is because there was a lot of graphical content/effects in that particular scene. Even if you had your FPS uncapped with GSYNC/VSYNC off, if you reached a point where the graphical content caused the FPS to drop that low, it will still drop that low in that same scene no matter what.

 

Even at 200fps, you can have screen tearing.

Having it capped at 75FPS with V-sync/G-sync will give you a much smoother experience, aka no screen tearing.

Ultimately it's up to you. If you don't mind portions of the screen being out of sync with the rest of your screen, then go for higher FPS.

I personally can't stand the tearing though. Makes the game look glitchy. But that's just me.

 

Thanks guys I need to checked it...

 

He can also overclock the screen up to 100hz. ;-)

 

O this is interesting is this difficult to overclock lcd ?

 

Just go to the Nvidia Control panel and select Custom Refresh Rate 100Hz.

In the NVIDIA Control Panel, click on “Change Resolution” under Display Tasks followed by “Customize”. That will show a list of all the currently available screen modes. From here, you click on “Create Custom Resolutions” and increase the Hz until you get synchronization errors. When this limit is reached, back down a few ticks and save it there.

I don't know if it can possibly go higher or not though, but most everyone seems to say 100Hz is confirmed stable. You could always experiment with it. Then you can have your V-sync/G-sync FPS cap raised to 100FPS. But again, it's not LOCKED at 100fps, just CAPPED.

I just stick to stock 75Hz because it's fine for me and keeps overall temps down.

 

This! =D

 

Ooo yesss thanks a lot

 

I like 75hz better too. I don't feel much of a difference from 75 to 100 as I feel from 60 to 75. Then having the cap at 75 with Vsync and Gsync will stress less my GPUs, heat them less and help system durability (which I'm only concerned because I used to play games with GPU overclock and my temps can get high in my brazilian warm weather)

 

Hey Guys,

got my Clevo P870DM-G and wanted to show you what my beast can do with a little bit tweaking !

these are stable 24/7 results

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7755363



http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11009155

 

Hi! Welcome to our community. Glad you joined us. And, congrats on the awesome beast, too.

You've got that 970M SLI working really nice. Good job!

 

and im still struggling to get even a stable not overheating 4.2 :/

 

me and you both the silicon lottery it seems. Do what I did and order a Silicon Lottery guaranteed 6700K CPU with the CPU delid service + Liquid Ultra already done from HIDevolution and sell your current one. Then all you need is replace your current CPU which is super easy on this laptop and apply new thermal paste (Liqud Ultra also recommended)

 

So I had to test out the 362 drivers today and I picked up performance. Simple +150/+400 stock voltage 1.062v firestrike test at 4.2ghz. I don't know how far you can push them but they might be better than previous.

 

GeForce GTX 980 (361.91) CPU 4.4 GHz-GPU OC 100-100 [W10]

 

If you make me a video o opening the laptop, taking out the cpu, where to put the liquid ultra ( after i get the silicon valley delided one ) I can have my wife do it while I watch... But I cant do it myself.

 

with pleasure, I need some time till I get mine as I will be applying Liquid Ultra again

 

Subscribe to MrFoxRox2 and Eurocom's youtube channel. I believe he did a tear down of the P870dm and repaste somewhere with liquid ultra.

 

Did you notice any improvement with 362 compared to this 361.91 numbers?

 

Didn't benchmark with it, then a user reported that all drivers after 345.09/345.35 have GSYNC broken which made me realize I am not experiencing the smoothness in games as I used to before so today when I reverted back to an image before installing any drivers, I installed 345.09 again

 

All ive found is repasting of the GPU'S i need to see how totake out the CPU and repaste it with liquid ultra.. How long will that be @Phoenix ?

 

People use to take abou half an hour

 

Weird I will test a few things but I just ran Valley benchmark and it was locked at 75fps.

 

about 15 days unless you want me to make a video tomorrow for you but the only difference would be is I will apply IC Diamond on the current crappy CPU as to save my Liquid Ultra for the soon to come Silicon Lottery CPU

 

can you please confirm if GSYNC is working with a few more tests?

thanks

 

I meant till he gets his machine back.

 

the cleaning takes time, applying the thermal paste takes a couple of minutes

 

That would be fine, I would guess its the same way... Will the cpu come out the same way on ur "crappy" one as on mine?

Edit.. Oh you meant the crappy CPU i thought it was a crappy laptop u had hehe.. Yes do so so i can see and buy that stuff right after i see the video.

 

Damn slow at stock speed

 

no for IC Diamond you just need to put a pea drop size of the paste and place the heatsink back. With liquid ultra, you need to use the brush that comes with it and slowly work your way on the entire CPU, here is a video on how to apply Liquid Ultra:

 

I just tested 3 different games and all locked at 75fps so I am not experiencing any issues.

 

For benchmarking, I opened the nvidia Panel and turned off gsync and vsync on the individual software configurations, for each benchmark .exe.

That worked for me.

 

Nice, you can go Picaso or Van Gogh on your CPU

 

Screw it will buy that CPU right now so as soon as I see your video ill put my wife to work while I supervise .. Any specific brand of Liquid Ultra?