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Quadro GPU is actually not so good for me, a GTX actually works better. Some of the higher ticket program I use don't support Quadros and recommend GTX. Quadros are only important for CAD viewport accuracy or very high end accurate modeling. Mainly needed for for 100% accurate production.

Still, my question would be is heating an issue if I were to render out a scene for days on end? When rendering, most of the work is loaded on the CPU, the GPU says idle unless it's a very specific task.

 

The default voltage is too high, just decrease it by -150mV in the BIOS and it would be fine. I run mine @ 4.2 GHz on all 4 cores all day long and the temps never reach more than 80-85C

You wanna get this laptop with the PREMA BIOS to fully unlock all those options, I recommend ordering it from HIDevolution but tell them to get you the Eurocom Sky X9 version which has the PREMMA BIOS preinstalled

see:

HIDevolution - The Best Company I ever dealt with

 

Isn't 80c pretty high for idle?

 

Hello everyone,

I've purchased my P860DM-G about 3 months ago and now I've finally managed to order the 4K display panel. Back in December the waiting time for the version with the 4K panel was very long and I've learned to appreciate having a backup display panel.

At start I was pretty confident in my ability to swap it but now I'm having second thoughts. I could not find any service manual for it and I assumed the two small square covers on the bottom of the lid where screws, doesn't look like it any more. I wasn't able till now to figure out a "safe" way to approach the lcd panel swap.

Any advice or tip on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

I said full load, idle is 39C with Liquid Ultra thermal paste

 

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/service-manuals/
Hope this helps

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You could go for the sky X9E from Eurocom/through HIDevolution, Comes wit CLU and Prema BIOS to help with temps and tweaks.
For even lower temps delid CPU or get a delidded CPU from silicon lottery/through HIDevolution.

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The plastic film is just to protect it during shipping.

Mine came with it too - there is a film on the back cover and it's taped to another film over the monitor screen. It fits like a sleeve over the top half of the laptop.

It's not self-adhering, so you'll probably want to remove the whole thing so you can see the screen better.

 

I do a lot of lightmap baking on 3D gaming scenes with a couple million vertices. Its a pretty similar task for the CPU and mine does fine. I tuned it however to work for my Overclock. Its set at 4.3gz (maybe I'll increase to 4.4) with -150mv which gives me the highest temp around 87C here in my brazilian warm nights. And that is without CLU and no delid after like an hour of 100% use of all the cores without a break. That lasts all night long.

So I think that on the worse case, if you keep yours at stock speeds and with -150mv and a few other tweaks you will be fine =)

It is one of the best laptops for this task.

Oh, and if you need a GTX instead of a quadro, and if your softwares support SLI, the 980m SLI might be better for you, they might add more compute horsepower.

 

Yeah that's what I did

 

I think @Phoenix gets a % out of every referral he makes to Hidevolution

 

good for you! I was feeling sorry for all your troubles,stolen laptop, poor overclocking CPU...dude .
On the flip side though,sharing all these experiences of yours has been a big help for newbies such as myself on this forum and I have to thank you for that .

PS: head to head between your new CPU and the old one would further help gauge the performance range of the chip(for same ambient temps)

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Is there anyway to get this magical prima bios ?

 

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Hi, has anyone tried to change the LCD screen of this machine for the 4K one? I know that the regular HD uses a 30 pins cable. while the 4K one uses a 40 pins cable, and for the photos I've seen in here of the motherboard looks like is a 40 pins connector so it is probably using a 40 to 30 pins cable, and replacing the cable for a 40-40 is all is needed. The regular HD screen is quite bad in terms of gamut compared to the 4K one.

Thanks

 

Guys the beast just shipped I'm very excited.

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I went HIDevolution in the end and even though it took a couple days longer than they said, they upgraded me to free 2 days shipping, I basically got 32GB RAM 512 GB Samsung NVME PCI-E4 HDD with a 1TB Hard drive with the OS on (I plan to use my old laptops SSD as a boot drive , the 1 TB drive as a downloads/gaming drive and the 512GB NVMe ones as my Raid 0 games drive).

Dual 980M's in SLI, I7 6700K, Coollab liquid metal and 2 power supplies.

The one thing I didn't go for is/was the prema bios (for either the GPU's or the CPU), now I do have a question regarding that. Is it not possible to install the prema bios yourself?

Thanks and I will definitely be looking to optimize/overclock this bad boy this coming week/month and will appreciate any help I can find to do that

 

Yes just ask @Prema for them when you get your machine

 

Quick question folks.. Is CPU VCORE the same as Core Voltage Override? If not what is the equivalent of CPU Vcore in prema Bios?

 

Override lead me to believe its static instead of adaptive.

 

The question still remains, thats the same as CPU Vcore? because im looking at guides but they use other Bios and they have cpu vcore. I want to know if its the same as core voltage override?

 

I don't really know. its supposed to be. But it never stays at the voltage I set it, then so far I really preffer to use adaptive with offset because to me is easier to keep voltages at bay.

 

XTU says 1 thing and HWINFO says another.. who to believe... :/

 

And this is a pitiful score if the laptop is "running" at 4.4

 

The way your XTU is reading, you're using no votlage offset on adaptive voltage, which will give you the stock voltages, which will heat a lot and then throttle down. what could explain the lower than expected performance.

 

Im not using offset but im not using adaptive but override with that setting ( changed to 1.5 now ) since i got bsod when i went to 4.4.. It is not overheating when i do a cinebench at all, bt the score is PITIFUL for something that "should" be running 4.4.. Im not getting this

 

I'm not being able to follow up your changes on your settings.

I don't know if you're using XTU or the BIOS and what you changed where, so I'm not being able to try to find where is your problem.

I don't know at all what procedure are you following =/

 

Im using the Bios... all I changed was all cores to 44. The on OC went to Processor and set it at 44, Override and 1.5V that is ALL... XTU is just to see the settings which shows the same changes I made in Bios, but the performance as you can see is sucky at best

 

how come override is 1.5?

the highest even intell recommends is 1.44.

1.5 would fry the CPU in a few seconds with a laptop cooling...
Something is wrong, and I think that is we're not understanding each other well.

I don't know what you're doing...

Maybe, if you send pictures of your BIOS settings. all of them, like @Phoenix did.

 

Not 1.5, is 1.15 my bad.

 

Oh!

that isn't enough for 4.3 hahaha

 

Shouldnt it crash? BSOD'D? Overheat? Its doing none of that.... so wheres the issue?

 

Probably on your low performance.

 

Theen if i go to 1.2 it goes haywire.... see what my point is

 

Yes. That happens to me too. Thats why I sugested a procedure to you. But as you always post a different approach, I'm unable to pinpoint where is your problem because I don't know what you're doing =(

 

It is always the same.. I started at 4.1 wth low voltage and cinebench score were pitiful i kept increasing the voltage until the scores where nice but temperatures went sky rocketing.. and did the same all the way to 4.4 ... So im losing my mind.

 

Just to clarify did you go for 2x 512GB NVMe for both m.2 slots in raid 0? And what is the SSD model you're gonna use for the OS, also is it 2.5 or m.2?

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Yeah I went for the 2 x 256GB (so 512GB total) NVMe for both M.2 slots in Raid 0.

The SSD i have at the mo is a pretty cheap APOTOP one, but its faster than the 1TB mech. HDD that I'm going to use as my data drive, later on I will upgrade it for something better.

Really this is going to be my travel/at work gaming laptop as my main PC is my quad Titan X SLI, I7 5960X, 64GB DDR4 G.Skill Ram desktop machine. for when Im at home!

No the Apotop SSD is not M2, its regular SATA 6GB/s or SATA III if you prefer.

 

No Prema will not hand out his bios if you did not purchase from a supported shop and make the arrangements.

You can use an older vbios that is public.

Sorry but like most cases you have to pay to play so I don't want anyone melislead and neither does he. It's for everyone's own protection.

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Quad Titan X.....whaaat!, can't believe you're skimping on Prema BIOS (with overclocking warranty) when you are rocking a rig like that.

Of topic: curious to know what storage config your using on your desktop.

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Doesn't exist without pictures.

 

My bad

 

Prob about 1.18 for x42 @ 1.23 vid and 1.2 for x44 @ 1.26 vid should be in the ballpark.

I am listing both sides because the droop is prob different between what bios you have.

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when you say 1.26 Vid? where does that setting go? pardon my ignorance.

 

At work now so this is the only picture I have of my rig on my phone but rest assured I'm not immature enough to lie about the specs of my machines.

http://imgur.com/6R8Ak5q

The reason I "skimped" on the prema BIOS is I was quoted 500$ extra to have it installed. That combined with me building my desktop in the picture above which cost up to 10k means there was no way I could stretch an extra 500 $ on my laptop.

So ISNT HIDevolution a prema BIOS supporting shop then?

 

You have to specifically ask them you want prema bios on your system. Its not default like Eurocom or Mythlogic

 

Eh? Should the VID and vcore value be switched? Lower vcore leads to higher vid???

 

Yeah , like I said they asked but i wasnt willing to pay the extra 500$ for it.

So theres no way i can get premas bios installed on it after the fact? He doesnt make the pheonix ones available on his site?

 

is there a place to change VID or that changes depending on the core value you put? Core override since theres no vcore name in prema Bios

 

Not yet, it's still a partner shop exclusive for now, you'll have to wait. You also won't get warranty cover when you flash it yourself later (that's what the 500$ is really for, the safety net) but I guess you don't care about that.

EDIT: again, curious how you went about your desktop storage as I find the config your going for in this laptop doesn't make sense to me. Since a RAID 0 NVME isn't very effective like a RAID 0 sata lll due to DMI bottleneck(rather go for single 512 and save a slot for future), and on top of that you're going to use a slower drive for OS and a faster one for games which are going to be launched over the same OS(it's usually done the other way around)

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