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I personally prefer DisplayCAL specially with my i1Display Pro. It does take a bit of more tweaking, but its Profile management is much better and light weight.

 

I usually miss three on the pantone scale, but it varies which colors by monitor (better with the pantone scale on set tiles). So I'm highly sensitive to color, but get blinded by lights at night... Lol. So to me, it is night and day. But I also change more than the colors to match, I change the viewing conditions, etc., which make it more drastic. I use D65 (6500k) for my color temp, 2.2 gamma, luminance of 120, using the REC 709 (or sometimes REC 709 75% for some devices), using a ten point scale on primary and secondary colors, if doing it manually in HCFR...

@bloodhawk - have you ran for aLUT at max, then used the resulting .icc?

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Dont think so. The last time i used it was when i used it to calibrate my 4k Panel 2 months back. And i use the DisplayCAL Install Device Profile option, since it loads the other necessary data as well, unlike Windows Color management which only loads the .icc.

 

The only part I don't like about it loading the calibration is the delay and a couple quirks... But, that is the nature... I've had a lot more work this year, but need to get back and try flashing the color correction using a custom edid... If it works, no color management needed! Lol...

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I like the i1profiler though, my display has less blue light.

However, with windows ICC and displaycal profile loader, the color always reset when I launch unigine heaven

What tweaks should be used with displaycal to better calibrate the display?

 

It depends on what you are going for. My settings above are going for industry standard reference displays. What looks good to you may differ... You can manually set a fair amount of those settings into the displayCAL settings. Meanwhile, I wish we could set the display "brightness" at intervals of 5%, rather than 10% (I'd love 1%, but baby steps)...

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Well the one thing that could be better with these screens is the friggin response time.
Its 25ms!
However I hear that Clevo and MSI are going to be getting a 120hz / 5ms / 1080p panel with the refreshed models.
If that is the case hopefully all gaming systems will get that. I will follow where ever that panel is.

 

Most games / graphics engines use their own LUT's/Color profiling.
This used to happen to be when launching CSGO would reset the color profiles and i would have to set it up again. But with the DisplayCAL Profile Loader, it automatically loads things up instantly as soon as it sees something has been changed. Specially useful since i have 2 entirely different monitors hooked up.

 

I do have displaycal profile loader, therefore I shouldn't be worried about the ICC profile being override by games right?

 

It's the two displays that often throws it off for me (but may be my settings). I calibrated the external with the controls on it, then did a .icc profile for it on top. Looks wonderful...

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Yeah, till the time the 3rd and 4th are checked it should automatically reset the profiles to the correct ones.

Oh yeah, i had a similar setup on my Eizo CG2420, my temp setup right now (DELL U2410 and Benq 2411Z) dont really need that type of tweaking.

However when i did the calibration on the Dell, i turn on Interactive Adjustment on and match setup the Monitor RGB / Luminescence to about 150cd/m2 and then let the calibration run overnight.
Works pretty well.

 

Whenever I do anything other than 120 cd/m2, it is 150! Took me awhile to adjust to the darker screens, but now I love it! it also worried me about the 800-1000 nit displays being so damn bright!!!

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Run displaycal overnight? Is it better to run overnight compared to default 9-10 min calibration? How do I enable this option?


I don't have the automatic profile association thing, it's greyed out? Help?

 

Oh yeah. Another issue with calibrating 800-1000 nit displays is the fact that they anything other than proper spectrophotmeters dont properly read them. My Spyder 4 isn't able to read the 4k AUO's brightness to anything over 325 - 350 nits for some reason. The i1Display Pro however easily goes to about 395 nits.
Same for the contrast, the Spyder 4 doesn't read anything over 750:1, i1Display easily goes over 900:1.

 

When you installed the profile using DisplayCAL, was let "Operating System Mange Color Calibration loading" checked?

 

So you would need a colormunki photograph (not display as that is only an i1d2, which the two higher quality colormunkis should be around $325) or an i1 professional ($1000 spectrometer).

I was steered away from spyder, so nothing to compare, but my I1d3 can read contrast way above that (my TV it reads as just under 5,000:1, if memory serves). Also, I use Y w/ absolute, not relative...



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argyllcms
displaycal
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HCFR - a manual display tuner which I used for my TVs...

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This is completely off topic, but I need to make all of you people laugh.

Someone on another forum just tried to tell me that the i5-6300HQ (2.3GHz base, 2.8GHz max 4-core turbo) isn't a crappy CPU (for gaming or otherwise). This person has a Dell 7559 with a 960M and said i5.

Proceed to laugh, everyone. @Mr. Fox @jaybee83 @tgipier @bloodhawk

 

God that's good!!!

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TOP KEK. Hahahaha a!

Then my Vaio Duo 11 is great for running CSGO @ 640x480.

 

The stress test of P870DM3, just ignore the CPU, the tester use an ES version of 6700K....
I also post additional photo on the pascal thread"
Link for the source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4722623718


Boring boring Chelsea

 

Hey, Dell said that Inspiron is a " gaming laptop" so it has to be true.

 

Looks like GPU-Z is showing a PerfCap Reason... not good.

 

It looks like a 6700k is not enough to "feed" it.

 

Oh god. I got one better. He then proceeds to tell me that if his i5-6300 is a crappy i5, then the i7-6700HQ is a crappy i7...

You know the one where you can't adjust turbo bins AT ALL (just turbo enabled/disabled), has 6MB of L3 cache unlike the rest of the mobile skylake i7 lineup which has 8MB, has no intel tech like vPro (which the 6820HQ and 6920HQ have), and costs EXACTLY the same as the 6820HQ (which is 100MHz faster and has +400MHz OC bins) and 6820HK (mobile unlocked) do? THAT chip?

I'm dying of laughter here guys I can't, please send help and multiple phoenix downs! @jaybee83 @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk @ajc9988 @tgipier

Should be vREL which happens pretty much any time max boost isn't happening on the chips for maxwell (and I assume Pascal). Util is just util, but it shouldn't be happening in furmark...

On the plus side that is 1080 SLI at 85c max in furmark, which I think my single 780M crosses at stock.

 

Give us the link please?

 

Please tell me he was typing furiously to explain his point... Lmfao!!!

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The mobile version cards have much lower clock speeds than the desktop card this time around. Notebook 980 was actually a bit faster I think than the desktop version.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/640756-rx460m/ here. Even Octiceps jumped in on the roast

 

Oddly enough the leaked notebook 1070 performance looks better than the desktop 1070...

Downclocked mobile GPU's?? We overclock those!!

 

This means the rumors might be true after all, we may actually have 2048 cores on the notebook version rather than 1920 on the desktop version.

I'll take more cores, less clocks over less cores higher clocks any day since, as you mentioned, we can overclock the clock speed. We can't restore cores.

 

They had a smaller core, so they clocked it higher. These new cards have more cores, so less clock gives same result...

Meanwhile, it leaves plenty of room for OC, heat is the only factor...



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4 character name and first letter = R?

Oh... that person I see. He's on another forum too.

Nothing wrong with what he's saying. It's just one of those cpus on the outer edges of a 300mm wafer and cannot be scaled upwards, only downwards. The i7-6700HQ has defective cache.

Can't you do that mod to the 6700HQ like you can to the 4700HQ/4700MQ to force higher multipliers?

 

No, there is something wrong. 2.8GHz i5 is nowhere near high performance right now. I'm actually fairly certain I can find a bunch of games that that will bottleneck you to below 60fps in, at least in some cases. Far less someone wanting productivity. It's a midrange chip at best. The best i5 laptops have had in years? Easily. Won't argue that. But nowhere near a strong chip. The reason for the 6700HQ shouldn't matter. Pooling everything I know about it vs the same-priced 6820Hx chips, the 6700HQ should cost less. ESPECIALLY since it has no socket. Right now it costs more than a 6700K.

No, the 6700HQ's turbo bins cannot be touched at all. They were fully grayed out in any machine I ever asked anyone to check them with. Either they run turbo on (3.5GHz 1-core, 3.3GHz 2-core, 3.1GHz 3-core and 4-core) or turbo off (2.5GHz 1-4 cores). Even if you unlocked the multiplier via a microcode bug, you wouldn't be able to touch the turbo bins. You could get somewhere by OCing the bclk since it's decoupled from the RAM clock etc, but since you can't adjust the turbo bins, by the time you end up with say... 3.6GHz or so on 4-core turbo (116MHz bclk), 1-core would be over 4GHz and thus not easily stable at all.

 

Funny how they sell the same chip with defective parts at equal cost with equal TDP ( lower frequency = higher volts to compensate ? ).

I've never seen the guy in the LTT thread angry before.

In another thread on another forum, one person claims you can find a i5-6300HQ / 970M 3GB / 8GB 2133 / 256GB SSD ( m.2? ) for 800 USD at microcenter and that the guy in the LTT thread

"Where are you buying this machine from? Also what price? I'm interested in grabbing one too as a direct upgrade for myself."

"So you can cry all you want about how the 6700HQ is a ****ty CPU and how the 6300HQ is a ****ty CPU too, but the proof is in the pudding, and that's that they clearly aren't, otherwise they wouldn't be selling like hotcakes compared to the 6820HK."

The 6820HK would actually sell more if the resellers kept it at equal cost instead of +125?

 

i'm sure someone can do a rough superimposed image of the two systems

 

Yup, that's why I gave up telling him anything. Guy's legit crazy, and as you found, completely contradictory.

And yes, the 6820HK would probably sell a ridiculous amount more had resellers kept it at equal cost. I don't actually know where this cost hit comes from... @Prema do you know what part of the supply chain does this?

 

Yeah, a superimposed image would be easier to see.

800+800 go to from i5 + 960M to i5 + 970M when he could've gone from from 0+1600 for a 980M laptop (like the MX5 / 15.6" / 5.72 lb)

Even more defective than the 6700HQ is the 6300HQ ( same cache but defective Hyperthreading? )

 

The i5 fits pretty well with the 960m. When it comes to 45w TDP most turbo chips will hang around the same level when fully stressed under stock limits.

 

I honestly don't know, but even if I would, that's stuff you just don't talk about.

 

Ah well, that's too bad. I suppose my willingness to talk about stuff like that is why companies will forever dislike me xD

 

that would be illegal

 

The price for the g-sync license is already part of the g-sync GPU itself (not the shell). They cost extra versus an identical non-g part for that reason when bought stand-alone in bulk. It's not like this could be misused to make non-g GPUs work with g-sync.
So asking a vendor to pay for g-sync via the purchase of new GPUs and then not allowing them to use the feature would be the criminal part.

Porting legit code from a paid for license for a user that paid for g-sync via GPU purchase should be self-evident. ODMs just lack the effort to support EOL systems including Plug'n'Play support for non-g parts.

EDIT:
Technically speaking we can essentially make 'any' GPU Plug'n'Play for all Clevo models as long as the hardware is or can be modified to be compatible.

 

so long as a 1080 works with little to no modification then i am all good!

@Mr. Fox how much juice does 2 180w GTX 980s use at stock?

 

I'm actually contemplating on whether to sell my unit or settle for a 200W 1080. The 200W 1080 could require a new heatsink though.

 

wait till someone else tests it out and reports back

 

By the way, extra bad news for some of you guys, apparently the Clevo version of GTX1060 is also with extra 8pin power supply. I


Boring boring Chelsea

 

Double click....

 

nope