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Any time I'm doing anything "stressful" on the machine, like gaming or benching I'm always running at a minimum the "overclock" fan mode. When heavy overclocking and benching I always use "max" fan mode.

Mine works ok on automatic mode, but I pretty much always leave it in overclock fan mode. When it's not actually doing anything it's not really audible on mine in overclock... And when I'm suddenly running it hard it's ready to cool it down without having to worry about switching modes. I even play BF1 in overclock fan mode without any overheating

 

I dont fully understand how people say they cant see it and get "used to it". I feel they just are choosing to ignore it because they paid for it for one, and because there is no options.
We are faced which two options which are not ideal.
I see the lines in everything, and at a normal distance (2 to 3 feet away on a table or my lap), in solid colors, in images and gaming.
Some of my icons look fuzzy because of it, certain text looks different because of it (can see the lines adding little spikes on the edges of white text), and even regular images that are not solid in color look different to me. Yes its easier to showcase on solid colors, but I have been looking at some of these images and/or some of these games for years. They look different to me and Its kind of driving me nuts.
I either have to choose a ghosting, non Gsync, 60Hz panel or one with lines in it.
I still have not fully decided, each time I start to hate the panel I start focusing on the massively reduced blur, its really nice to have that.
However then I start playing games and instantly notice it everywhere. Heck even a gray scroll bar in windows looks to have the lined texture. Ugggg.
I wish panel makers would just give us some amazingsauce, this is quite frustrating.

 

Is it really that noticeable? This sounds like a serious issue. If it was only noticeable from a few cm (meaning from a distance from where nobody uses it at normal circumstances) its OK, but if you can spot it even from 0.5-1m away from the display, than that is a huge issue and a real disappointment considering the price of the panel.

Is this issue common for this panel or its just a defect and needs a change under warranty?

 

You are reporting this on your Alienware 17 panel? If so, why here?

If it is for your Alienware 17 panel, where did you buy it?

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Isn't that B173QTN01.0 panel too? Or there are other 120hz qhd GSync panels too?

 

Hi guys, we just want to upgrade our 2tb 2.5" mass disk with a 4tb one ( http://www.seagate.com/it/it/consumer/upgrade/laptop-hdd/ and the model is ST4000LM016). Now its dimensions are 100mm x 70mm x 15mm and I want to be sure in the P870DM3 there's enough room for this drive.. Could someone confirm it?

 

They only support up to 9.5mm drives

 

Afraid not.. as mentioned only 9.5mm drive will fit.

 

I agree that running tests you may have to run the fans full speed; although, my point was more to the effect that automatic mode should be set to cool things down when the temperatures get that high. For me the fans do not ramp up and cool things down.

 

It may be possible that there are. "Silicon lottery" type screens. Mine really isnt bad and id have no problem trashing it. I ditched my 4k because i couldnt stand it

 

Results with a +200 MHz increase on GPU.

 

Some people are more picky than the others. Its just a matter of preference and where do you draw the line. I can see pixels on a 1080P screen if i look for these, but that doesnt make it unusable for me. But for some it could be a big issue and they would not able to ignore this. Its the same with these lines.

What fits you doent have to fit everybody else.

 

I enjoy the 1440p screen so far and do not take notice to the flaw; however, I need to calibrate it as well.

 

Yes me too. As i mentioned in an earlier post, i would not change it even if I had a choice to do so.
My point was that somebody who is saying they like the screen are not saying this because "they have already bought it and have no other option".

 

Give the memory too +100mhz

 

I just had a talk with Eurocom regarding the issue of the 1440p screen.
They claim that those lines are not normal for the qhd 120hz screen and the Lead technician said that they did not spot them yet with their stock and did not have any customer complaints either.

 

Just quick update about LCD options for P870DM2/DM3:
FHD 60Hz G-Sync
FHD 120Hz non G-Sync
QHD 120Hz G-sync
UHD (4K) 60Hz G-Sync
QHD and UHD LCD cables are the same.
FHD and QHD/UHD cables are different.

 

With +200 MHz core and +100MHz memory. Score was.

 

Correct me if im wrong here -

FHD 60Hz G-Sync ---- > 30 pin eDP cable.
FHD 120Hz non G-Sync ---- >30 Pin eDP cable?
QHD 120Hz G-sync ---- > 40 Pin eDP cable.
UHD (4K) 60Hz G-Sync ---- > 40 Pin eDP cable.

 

What driver? With +160/100 I get around 7300 graphics score.

 

375.76

 

With 375.76 at +160/100

 

The first results without the memory clock were the highest for whatever reason.

 

I happen to have the Eurocom 1440p ugrade screen. Although I've had problems ( g-sync only works with one driver), the horizontal lines are very hard see.

 

How close you need to be able to spot them? Which driver is it working with? Is 369.56 (latest Clevo driver) okay with G-Sync? (Would be interesting if not)

 

Im running the 775dm3. The other thread has little usefull info so I tend to read this one. The 368.71 driver appears to be the only one that works for gsync on the single 1080 Eurocom bios based system.
Funny thing is, if you go to the Nvidia site and choose a driver, the list is different for gtx1080 laptop vs non-laptop. It shows support for laptops only in the 370's range of drivers. August or later I think.
Gsync doesnt even show up in nvidia control panel for the 370's drivers and freezes up requiring reboot for most of the 360's drivers.

The screen looks great, honestly. (My screen anyway ). I cant see lines unless I was nose to the screen. It may be of use to point out that I almost always am at full brightness. Maybe that makes it appear less?

 

Did you try the latest Clevo driver too? 369.56

You can get it here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p870dm2-3-drivers-mirror.795059/

Also, the problem you are describing was present in earlier bios releases, what is your bios and ec version?

 

Finallly up and running, OS/drivers/apps/games installed.

Everything is stock (cpu/memory/no cpu delid, no gpu repaste). I don't have CCC installed. I do have Fraps to monitor FPS.

What else/next? Best app to monitor cpu/gpu temps?

 

I just picked up a 4k screen because my 3k went out. And this thing is having issues running GTA 5@4k. I'm wondering if it's the computer. It wont run right on my 4k tv either.
I'm thinking, i'm going to take this back and get the 3k with 144hz instead.

Side note: And the fact that I can't even set a higher resolution on this internal monitor is crazy. At least i could run 120hz/2560x1440P on the P570WM3. And it over clocked to 140hz

For 200 on core, that GPU score is pretty low i'm afraid...... Should be in the upper 7600+ range for that type of over clock. (2100)
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/575694/spy/479142/spy/618029#

 

That could be partly due to the NVidia driver they were using which was 373.06 (have not tried that one yet). Here are my results with todays new drivers (375.86).

 

Now add 400 on memory and try it again.

 

300 on memory is the max through there software. Will give that a try later have to go to work for a bit.

 

Ah, so i see....

 

thanks for the internal hdd info gals, much appreciated here.. what a pity for the 1.5mm dimension not available. The P570WM is the last of the Mohicans of the clevo workstations altough it wasn't equipped with simil-desktop GPUs it sported XEON cpu as well as the 4960X

 

Yep. I got rid of mine because I couldn't run 1080N's in it.

 

Ended up with a 6900 graphics score by increasing the core +200 and memory +300, the graphics score was around 7300 with a +200 core and no memory increase.

 

If I go above 160 MHz core I start to get artifacts. 200 MHz core instantly gives artifacts for me when Fire Strike starts.

On a side note, does DSR give the same performance as the native resolution ? I have tried The Division with 3k DSR to test how well would the game run with GTX1080 using a 3k screen and holy sh*t it was unplayable with the settings I use for the fullHD panel. Lowest fps I saw was 40, however the game only looked smooth when the fps was above 60. Most of the times it was under 60 fps and when this happened even with GSync the game stuttered like hell. When the fps was near 40 turning the camera made the game unplayable, the texture in the background were vibrating/stuttering/shaking, it was horrible. Even Gsync only eliminated about 50% of the stutter.
Does The Division look this bad on the actual 3k panel with everything on max settings (nvidia pcss) and running around during daytime when the fps is around 40-50 with a single gtx 1080?

 

It's because your cards are too hot. You can't be running around 200/300+ sitting on a desk or in your lap. Just not going to happen. Your cards will not last long at all.

Also, it could be the pads on your vram....
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/730994

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200+ 400+
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/731037

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All this to say....You have a good card, but something is throwing it off.....

 

Hit pre production around 11am pst.

 

EVOC?

 

Awesome bud, I didn't think you'd hold out on one of these monsters for too much longer.

 

Yeah, Donald hooked me up. Went ahead and had the delid etc so it's covered under the warranty.

 

Yeah it was tough. I was trying to wait till Prema was done with the bios and worked through the issues. Figured I'd get it from the right company this time and they'll flashbit up for me when Prema is done and I'll be good.

I don't need the damn thing with the desktops I have but I want it and only live once.

 

best choice you ever made about that delid which no other reseller offers! that way you have your CPU warranty intact since it was done from the factory!

Please edit your signature bro with your upcoming laptop specs so I don't keep asking you as I forget

You are free to use my sig as a template and edit it to your laptop specs

very excited and happy for you! Let us know when you get it if you need any help.

EVOC Team FTW

 

Nice, figured heat on the vram was the issue. I previously bought some better thermal pads but will not replace them for a while. Will play around with a few more tests at a later point.

 

I have bios 2.18.1256 american megatrends.
I will try that driver. Thanks for the link!
With some of the advice on here I've got my 775dm3 running the overclock and undervolt right off the bios. No throttlestop or xtu or clevo cc.
Power levels stick and everything.
Auto fans are way way better. Very smooth ramping and they seem to go higher than before. They never go to fun+1 levels whereas before they would inevitably get to full speed with or without overclock.
Thanks to everyone for all the advice that helped me get to this point!

 

First ever Time Spy run (everything stock, 375.86 driver). No CCC installed. BIOS 1.05.03, EC 1.05.06. Temps hit 91 on CPU and 71 on GPU.

Got a validation warning though, something about the graphics driver.

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Edit: how do you embed pic links?
Edit2: figured it out.

 

Can we stop saying no other reseller offers a delid service, it isn't true anymore, I corrected this statement a few weeks back already, HIDevolution is a great company, but they aren't the only one, nor are they the only one offering a delid service covered under warranty, just trying to give credit were credit is due, HIDevolution were pioneers in doing this, that much is true, and it still isn't common practice, but there is at least one other company doing this that I know of (possibly more) .

 

Care to list the others? That will be more useful.

 

That is not your bios version, both bios and ec version should look like 1.05.xx. In the search window type dxdiag and open the app, that will display it.
Autofan? What is your temp? With autofan you can overheat easely. Also what is your clock/voltage and what do you oc with?
I oc with the clevo app and above 160mhz core I start to get artifacts, even if mem is +0. Probably the clevo app sets too low voltage automaticaly for the increased clock. At least I cant think of any other reason for artifacts.Highest factory core voltage is 1.062V, but when I OC with the clevo app it will lower the voltage to keep the gpu under 80C. I have tested it and for 1860 mhz 0.950 V (0.975V to be safe) is the minimum, under this I start to get artifacts. So my guess is that clevo app does not give enough juice for 19xx Mhz to not artifact.