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    *** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    High performance forces the CPU to maintain full clocks at all times if the power/thermal limits allow it. Balanced allows the clocks to adjust dynamically with load.
     
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    afloyd Notebook Consultant

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    If you look in the user manual ( post 2), there's a description in section 1-10 on the Control Center... :)
     
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    lctalley0109 Notebook Evangelist

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    Not sure about that. I think it depends on who you bought from.
     
  4. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    @lctalley0109 No I didn't glue the IHS back down. I just held it in place with the socket clamp.

    So you're saying leave the CC power option as balanced?
     
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  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    on my previous 6700K I also didn't glue it down, I tried but it was a big mess so I just hold it using the clip now
     
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    lctalley0109 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ya the clip works fine did that with my 4770k; however, someone who lives near me in Houston makes delid and relid kits so it makes it easy with the relid kit to put it back in the exact same spot put a little gel super glue on the corners and let it dry for a few hours. Just made it easy to make sure it was centered.
     
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    DRevan Notebook Virtuoso

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    I ordered Rockit88 with CLU and glue from the US, crossing my fingers for it to arrive tomorrow :)
     
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    Same, I went to his shop since he (James) is about 10 minutes from my house and did the delid in his shop. He helped out with cleaning up all the old silicone and let me use some CLU for free. Tried to buy a bottle from him but he said no use this bottle no charge. Really nice!!
     
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    lctalley0109 Notebook Evangelist

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    @afloyd the wife bought the sli GPU/CPU heatsync for me. I am exited to get some temp differences between the two but she said I will have to wait till Christmas but we will see!
     
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    afloyd Notebook Consultant

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    Awesome wife! I'm sure you'll like it, always good to have the best available! If you don't already have it I'd get some IC Diamond as well and repaste the GPU while you're in there. That's what HIDevolution used on mine.
     
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    I thought about that; however, I have some gc extreme still which is what I had been using. The GC extreme showed the same temperatures from the factory paste. I saw someone say ic diamond has longer longevity but not sure how true that is. What do you all think use up the gc extreme I have or buy some ic diamond?
     
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    infex Notebook Consultant

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    is there a place to look up or check model number using serial keys for the evoc p870dm3? they shipped my laptop, but sent me the wrong model as in the order it says p970dm2 with a serial number. I am hoping it is a typo
     
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  13. Rage Set

    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    Considering there is no P970DM2 available from Clevo, I am sure it is simply a typo. Did you purchase a P870DM2 or P870DM3? The main difference between the two is one has the vapor chamber (DM3) and the other doesn't. You can purchase a P870DM3 with a vapor chamber and a single 1080 GPU.

    I don't think there is any accessible database that allows you to check serial numbers. I would just call HIDevolution tomorrow morning and ask.
     
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    infex Notebook Consultant

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    The funny thing is that the serial number is for the P870DM2 from HIDevolution.
    I purchased
    EVOC P870DM3 17.3" Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop w/ 1x GTX 1080
     
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    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    She has landed. Been busy with project for work.

    Pics and first impressions to come
     
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    Nice!!
     
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    I did not remove the adhesive. I delided it, applied CLU and put the IHS back on. I actually cannot get the IHS off anymore, it's like it released itself lol

    I delided myself, but temps on my P870DM were better with the same CPU. Must be because of the unified design where both the GPU heatsink and CPU heatsink are now connected. But 98C is really high for me , there's no way I can render on this thing if it can't stay below 80C at stock clocks.
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    @ssj92

    That actually happened to me too. I had to whack in my rockit88 and redelid it lol
     
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    removing the adhesive improves temps some more, especially if it hinders the clu to make proper contact between die and IHS :)

    judging from personal experience, GC Extreme isnt so bad when it comes to longevity, but ICD seems to be better in that regard. what i dislike about ICD is its tendency to discolor the heatsink and cpu contact areas. plus, its thermal performance is noticeably weaker than that of GC Extreme. due to this and the fact that ive had some terrible experience with TG kryonaut (freshly repasted it beats everything except liquid metal pastes, but after only several days temps skyrocketed on my system for no apparent reason, so longevity = crap), i just ordered myself a nice 10 gram pot of GCE :p
     
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    Yes, Kaby Lake platform supports Optane.
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Hmm, that's good to know. When Optane devices finally start becoming usable sizes that will be an interesting day.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What does that actually mean, as far as storage options?

    So far we have only seen "cache-assist sized" capacity, in the 20GB-30GB range for reported Optane sightings.

    Are there "normal" sized Optane devices - 128GB - 2TB for storage use?
     
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  23. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    I already asked this in the P775DM2/3 thread but I figured I'd ask here as well - does anyone here have the AUO B173HAN01.1 panel and can confirm that it is indeed a 120Hz FHD (1080p) panel? I looked up the spec sheets of it and it says it is only 60Hz, but I have seen Eurocom list it as 120Hz and also seen people call it 120Hz before but not recently.
     
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    Thanks, Jaybee. I haven't seen that issue yet but haven't had it on to long and haven't had to much time to play around anymore with work.
     
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    Although on my desktop GC Extreme seemed to last a long time; however, the temperatures are much lower am cooling the cpu with a water cooling system.
     
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    that might influence the longevity of a paste significantly, since idle / load cycles are much more "soft" or "shallow". ive been using GCE before kryonaut for several years in my laptop and havent had any bad experiences so far with it :) that plus better performance than ICD made me switch to GCE.
     
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    trey22 Notebook Consultant

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    I had bought Kryonaut to paste my GPU with (haven't done it yet), but after reading people's experiences, I'm leaning toward GELID Extreme.
     
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    I have been using Kryonaut for over 4 months now ( second repaste, since I change stuff around a lot)
    And it hasn't caused me any issues. No increase in temps or pump out what so ever.
    Before which I had GCE on my GPU and that performed pretty well as well.
     
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    Cooler Master Mastergel Maker - Ultra-high CPU/GPU conductivity ( 11 W/m.k)

    Gelid Extreme - conductivity ( 8.5 W/m.k)

    ICDiamond - conductivity ( 4.5 W/m.k)

    And then there is this. Which can be bought over the counter instead of ordering.
    http://frys.com/product/8053554?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
    20 W/m.k

    Edit After talking with @Mr. Fox & @bloodhawk , this last one may not be a viable solution for the list due to it needs to be heated up before it will flow correctly.
     
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    woot! Will pick one Indigo up tonight for my 6850k , frys is super close to my work place.
     
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    That is exactly why I posted that. :D
     
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    I have a fry's near me as well but it just looks like to much work to me. How easily does it clean up 6 months later?
     
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    Don't know. Haven't tried it yet.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    unfortunately, thermal conductivity values alone dont compare accurately with real world applications :confused: ill have to check out that Cooler Master Mastergel Maker, however...
     
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    Exactly!! That's why I'm a hands on guy instead of a "rely on the internet" guy.
     
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    absolutely, i wouldnt doubt that for a femtosecond coming from your keyboard :D that mastergel maker looks kinda promising, seems to be right up there with kryonaut and GCE... now if its as long-term reliable as GCE and doesnt leave discolorations behind like ICD im sold :)
     
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    Cooler Master gel thingy doesn't work that well under overcooked loads.
    And Indigo however has had pretty amazing results on desktops.
    @Mr. Fox tried it on his Sky X9 and El Cazador, with very disappointing results.
    The heatsink and mounting mattets a lot.
     
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    ah well, i wouldve held back on a purchase anyways, for now i just want a system that STAYS cool with oc settings ;) not just in the first several days after a repaste... :p
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yes sir. The <high end> thermal paste Arctic MX-4 have same conductivity ( 8.5W/m.k) as Gelid Extreme. And can't compete :D
     
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    It's because those figures are not arrived at under standard conditions and are trying to represent a curve of values with a single figure.

    It's like saying a bell curve is represented by the value 3.8. It makes no sense.
     
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    Anyone? :(
     
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    It's not the fastest panel around but I believe it can run 120hz from what I can see, why are you interested?
     
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    yes thats true as well. its always best to take a lot of reviews / data points into account and familiarize yourself with the respective testing conditions
     
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    Only posted them as potentials to try. To me they all work the same. Only liquid metal shows a more in your face improvement.
     
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    As it is liquid metal I'm totally confident the Indigo Xtreme would work fantastic except (as Brother @bloodhawk indicated) I could not get it to flow across the IHS. I also tried on the P570WM before the P870DM-G and P750ZM. I followed the directions to the letter and it would only flow about half way across. Each kit comes with two applications and every time failed with the same end result. I believe that might be due to contact pressure being too low and not being able to "squish" the melting product as much as necessary for it to work as designed. After 6 failed attempts I finally decided that was enough money lost on something I could not get to work as intended.
     
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    Seems like a lot of work and money when you can just use some clu and be done with it since they are both liquid metal.
     
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    Yes, exactly. That's where I landed, too. I really wanted it to work and was very disappointed that it did not, but if the heat sink fit is good you can't beat CLU with a stick.
     
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    In my case. I would have just use my brush and brushed it on...I never even thought about letting it flow on. :D
     
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