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Did you have to tweak to get the 3200 to work or is it out of the box on the XMP profile now? Also, have you tested with 64GB?

 

It's a little SPD premamod incl. some Fox voltage on top.

 

As noted... Prema tweaked the SPD. But, these are G.SKILL DDR4-3200 modules. I suspect the DDR4-3000 modules would also work. I could not get this to work with 6700K.

 

@Phoenix - this is with BIOS defaults other than XMP2-3200. AIDA64 says 7% overclock in error... probably needs and update for 7700K.

 

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Good job bro!thanks
Where you buy the 3200 mhz kit?i didn't found any site that have it yet..

 

I had to reinstall my GPU drivers after booting into Windows 7 with the 7700K, but I was able to use the same @j95 package with no further modding.

I was already on the latest Intel ME drivers from stationdrivers.com so no other driver changes were needed for either OS.

 

Windows 7 running with Kaby Lake?
And did you set up the boot partition as a UEFI boot?
I had previously assumed that with the introduction of Kaby Lake only Windows 10 is supported.
But if the drivers are running - then Windows 7 will work with Kaby Lake.

 

Yes. I already proved this.

 

+1

also @Mr. Fox would be pretty sweet if you could post the detailed settings for ddr4-3200 in the bios so that i could check those out with my 3000 corsair sticks once i switch to 7700K. thx in advance!

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Works either way... UEFI/GPT or Legacy/MBR.

 

it sounds like an expected temperature rise due to the slightly obstructed airflow in to the bottom of the unit because of the way it sits on a table.

Maybe you can try a cooling pad?

I have a Targus HD3 that I use to sit under laptops, it is quiet and has three fans that blow air upwards through little holes in to the base of the laptop. It is convenient enough that I even use it as a "lap-pad" for when I am using a laptop on my "lap".

It used to be rather warm with a Toughbook as it would scorch my legs (they conduct heat to the bottom of the laptop, no fans) and a Lenovo that would get obstructed airflow.

 

Brother @Papusan... well,would you look at that... what we already knew to be fact is still true! Go figure!

Before Delid - Fresh Kryonaut on CPU and GPU(s) - No Overclock / BIOS Defaults
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Core Max 95°C
Screen Shot Proof
3DMark 11 - CPU Core Max 99°C / GPU(s) 71°C, 69°C
Screen Shot Proof

After Delid - CLU on both side of IHS and Fresh IC Diamond on GPUs - No Overclock / BIOS Defaults
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Core Max 75°C
Screen Shot Proof
3DMark 11 - CPU Core Max 81°C / GPU(s) 66°C, 64°C
Screen Shot Proof

Hoodaathunkit?!?!?!

So, it's unanimous! But, not a surprise. Merely more evidence that delid and CLU is the way to go. It was never really optional on 6700K, or 4790K if you do much overclocking. Temps are too high for good results unless benching on AC cooling.

 

Nice, that it runs under Windows 7 !!!

I have both OS Win 7 and 10 running under not UEFI.
Then I would have if I switch to Kaby Lake with the new Prema BIOS
First change the partitions to UEFI?

It has just been answered.
So I take my question back.

 

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I still need to tweak the settings a bit before I am 100% happy with them. They are 100% usable but not optimal. I will share the manual settings after I figure them out. I think I may need to goose the tREFI up just a tad. 1.35V was too much. Seems 1.30V is better.

 

Thanks!!!

My current temperatures with the extra OPOLAR fans are so good that I could take the step.
My current new processor 6700k binned 4.9 GHZ(Ebay) under Throttlestop Adaptive runs stable on me at all cores at 4.7 GHz and 1.34V at about 74 degrees C maximum temperature.
4.8 GHZ stable on all cores I reach only at over 4, xx V. This voltage is permanently too hot for the processor.
I used a long time testing to keep the 4.8 GHZ stable.
Measured at a room temperature of about 23 degrees C.

Pictures I will have to deliver at times.

The Kaby Lake CPU's have a better OC, but they are also damn hot. Therefore this CPU should be delidded.

 

I think all CPUs that can be delidded should be delidded. I cannot think of a good reason not to. Even if the CPU does not run "too hot" cooler is always better.

 

Can someone please tell you if you can better overclock with the Prema BIOS?

 

If you havent gotten an email about PREMA BIOS and are with HIDevolution... Log into you account on the website & go to the "help desk", you should have an open ticket for it! https://www.hidevolution.com/helpdeskultimate/customer/

I hadn't gotten an email either but had a ticket waiting... @Donald@HIDevolution might be an issue to look into with emails not getting sent.

 

just to be clear on this: 4 core turbo on the 7700K is 4.4 Ghz with one core turbo at 4.5 Ghz, correct?

nice results btw, 20C drop is exactly in line with the SL data

 

Great find! I logged in and yep it was there. Responded with the first date they gave me

 

Download this:

Control Center AP v5.1.1.7 (AKA Hotkey Driver)

To install the Clevo Control Center without the built-in CPU/Memory Overclocking tool (which contains XTU components):

Edit the OEM.INI file in the Clevo Control Center driver's directory before you install it:

Change SupportXTUFanTable=1 to SupportXTUFanTable=0

 

Will that version work for windows 7?

 

There usually are different versions for Windows 10/7 but you can try

 

I have not received any email.

 

Hello everyone, I have a question... Since you're all talking about custom BIOS, is there a custom BIOS with slightly more aggressive GPU fan curve?
My unit's GPU will maintain 90C when playing games, but the clock speed will sometimes drop to base clock if the room is warm enough. I've done a IC diamond re-paste and nothing really changed, however ramp up the fan to 'maximum' will keep to clock boosted all the time, at the cost of extreme noise.

So, since the stock setting is very quite, can I flash a custom BIOS to let the fan work a little bit harder, to have a higher clock speed and slightly noisier acoustics? It's a sager unit btw.
Thanks a lot!

 

As expected Further, see post below.

Yooou hit the nail on the head Fox Delidded processor is a must on laptops. People should remember older mobile Extreme don't use IHS. Same for the BGA Crap. We aren't using desktop cooling in laptops. We need to delidde to have processors who can work with normal temp. This although you want to oc or not. Don't complain if your processor running a bit hot. It's normal in laptops. But yooou can do something with it!! Buy delidded or do it yourself. A must for power enthusiasts or noobs!! And Liquid metal all over, is the ice cream on top of the cake.

All four cores can be able to sustain the maximum 4.5GHz Turbo Boost speed for benchmark. Mb dependent? However 4.4GHz is the common.

 

Yup, it was there. Thanks for the heads up!

 

See my earlier post (quoted below for easier reference)...

 

Right. 7700K is 45-44-44-44.

 

I have one coming along with some liquid metal and I have the pack of blades I got. I only have a single power brick with me at the moment but should be able to play with the CPU.

 

with you, Meaker, one never knows what is what.... you might just max out a 330W brick just with a CPU OC

 

I'll try my best , the GPUs don't have hard power limits anymore so I do have to be careful even with SLI off.

 

If he was using HW-E or BW-E, he could probably max out a 450W brick alone...

 

@Mr. Fox

I ordered a Silicon Lottery Kaby Lake CPU rated @ 5.0 GHz from HIDevolution

when I get it and install it, is there anything special that I need to do before I can install the VGA Drivers? can you guide me please?

 

Hey Donald - curious will this be the system bios and GPU as well or just system?

 

Just system and EC I believe.

 

Ah. Guess they will do the @Prema VBios at a later time.

 

Pascal has encryption issues that need to be worked around.

 

Ya unfortunately I wish they would have told me before hand as well as I spent a good 4 hours installing 7700K, reinstalling again, checking contacts and then going back to the 6700K. Does not seem like all of the tech support even knew as they originally gave me a bios that "worked". Had to talk to the manager to find out it was not the correct bios.

 

If you are using a @j95 desktop driver mod before you install it and already have an 11.6 version of Intel ME FW you will be good to go. If you are not using @j95 desktop driver mods you will need to mod the notebook driver INF. I did not have to change any drivers on my system. Everything was plug-and-play because I already had that Intel ME installed and already had a @j95 driver mod installed.

Correct. Prema vBIOS testing has not even started because of the stupid locks that were put on it by NGREEDIA. These losers and their "secure" cancerous firmware filth are definitely not our friends. They are merely the lesser of two evils, and they are easy to hate because of it.

 

Hey man how the hell are they gonna milk the market if they unlock the BIOS.
EZ STARTEJY - Further tweak vBIOS increase voltages a bit, make fan curves aggressive -> release as Pascal V2.

 

Probably like they always have in the past... release a rebranded 1080 as an 1180 or a 1080 TI N and releasing a portion of the performance they artificially held back in the original 1080 using a progressive less-crippling cancer vBIOS.

 

got the Prema magic flashed. Thanks to @hidevolution @Prema

 

Yup...heard that song many times before.

 

Hi. May I know if I buy the laptop with FHD 60 Hz display now, can I upgrade it to 4K UHD 60 Hz in the future? Assuming both already support G-Sync.

 

Anyone know about troubleshooting the TPM chip on my NP9873. It is working for drive encryption but when I try to setup a PIN to use for unlocking the drive it always says that the TPM is unavailabile

 

To add to this, I'm going to decrypt my drives and try to reset the TPM.

Question on Prema BIOS as well, will this screw with the TPM? If so, I may leave it removed from my corporate network until things get loaded.

 

I don't touch the TPM data regions.

 

Good to know! Thanks!

 

Nice work @Prema. I hope people appreciate the hard work you have done.

BTW, this is what i imagine how you would have come to the forums today

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