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    *** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema confirmed to be Jen-Hsun Huang -> vBIOS gonna be cracked soon.
     
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    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am so ready to get the stupid clevo splash screen off this notebook. Someone post a picture of the new EVOC splash screen? Pretty please..... I need to know what to look forward too in a week and a half. :)
     
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  5. clayton006

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    That looks pretty sweet!
     
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    Just got the same thing!

    Another great part is that I uninstalled CC before updating the bios so I had the awful blue keyboard light and breathing green lid light. Now I have white backlighting for the keyboard and lid lights with the PremaMod. Also, the lid is static! No more breathing effect.


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  7. pathfindercod

    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    I can't wait!!! I think I'm more excited about getting the @Prema bios/ec more than I was getting the notebook... :)


     
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  8. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    its good to see so many boys purchasing this laptop supporting clevo so that they can keep going. definitely don't want those bga junk. how cool does 7700k run in this?
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    7700k so far runs really well. Most of the 5ghz + benchmarks are just on air and max fans - its ridiculous , no air conditioning blowing in or sitting
    outside in the snow.
     
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    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    from what i see on tom's and anand review shows at lower voltage it requires quite a bit of current so result with higher power consumption compared to skylake which is gonna be tough for this laptop to cool it off. with it's heatsink designed like that, they should have just done with 4 fans lol
     
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    izombot Notebook Consultant

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    This might be a dumb question, but what exactly does the "custom fan curve" option in the Prema bios do?


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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Temp wise it's doing better than my old 6700k at the same clocks. But even that's not really a good apples to apples comparison. With either of these chips, they need to be delidded IMO
     
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    hexum23 Notebook Evangelist

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    Got my Prema bios installed yesterday. Completely painless process. Thank you Zoltan/HIDEvolution. So many options now, I don't know where to begin. I don't know what a lot of these do either. Anyone have a quick guide on some of the options that are really worth playing with? I'll check the overclockers lounge.
     
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  14. prism1029

    prism1029 Notebook Guru

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    Oh wow, so is the Prema BIOS out now? I haven't been really following the thread closely recently.

    I hope that it will fix the random hard crashes on my system. I must have clean reinstalled the OS three times and I always use the most updated drivers proved kindly by Phoenix. I'm currently on BIOS 1.05.03.
     
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  15. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    [​IMG]

    It's out since 3 days my friend
     
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    prism1029 Notebook Guru

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    Ohh finally no more Style-Note! Do I request it from Zoltan?
     
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    who's Zoltan? if you mean it's tech support, then yes, you request for it and they will schedule a time to flash you
     
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  18. izombot

    izombot Notebook Consultant

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    Log into your HIDevolution.com account and go to help desk and there should be an open ticket giving you times to choose from.


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    izombot, Jan 13, 2017
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    @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and those running windows 7 with 7700K. I was thinking about purchasing a copy of windows 7 pro as they are cheap. I saw it was running smoothly for you in windows 7. I am wondering as far as benchmarking and gaming would it be worth it for me to make the switch? I guess I would loose DX12 but I don't think that is going to matter much.
     
    lctalley0109, Jan 13, 2017
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  20. Johnksss

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    You can always run both...
     
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    Have you compared any games between the two on this latop?
     
    lctalley0109, Jan 13, 2017
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    He's a HIDE staff member :p
    Mainly support and stuff.

    I'm assuming you mainly talk to Vivian.
     
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    yes, Vivi, the angel of taptops :eek:

    [​IMG]
     
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    He was the main system builder at PNB and was moved over to HID, he knows how to build and support a system :)
     
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    Max Temps while encoding a video @ 4.6 GHz:

    [​IMG]
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 13, 2017
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    I'm not sure what I want to set for 24/7 just yet, maybe 4.8.
     
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    hello everyone, long time browser first time poster. I bought my P870DM3 through Xoticpc back in November, and at the time i hadn't found this forum or knew there was a customized BIOS being made for it. When I became enlightened, I was sad that only prema partners would get it.

    Just today I looked at the partners page and saw that Xoticpc had been added. I immediately messaged them asking if I could get access, and they said they do not support it.

    who should i talk to?
     
    kYdizzle, Jan 13, 2017
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    Cam you say me, where can i get this prema bios?
     
    Matten1987, Jan 13, 2017
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    buy the laptop from a Prema Partner
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Is it safe to delid the 6700k?

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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    That seems to be new I think.
    I would say get in touch with @pat@XOTICPC or @Tanner@XoticPC and have them look into it for you. The information probably hasn't relayed to everyone at Xotic yet.
     
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    everyone's a Prema Partner now :rolleyes:

    although I am happy that LPC-Digital are now a Prema Partner

    what next? XMG? :rolleyes:
     
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  33. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Don't tease me man. I'm waiting for my Kaby Flakes CPU to arrive I hope I can do 5.0 GHz 24/7 so I can browse the forums faster :eek:
     
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    No
     
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    Not sure why you guys are calling it a flake when it can do 5.0 out of the box with little to no effort what so ever.
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Is that definitive cos I'll pull the trigger on a delidding tool.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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  37. bloodhawk

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    Told ya.
     
    bloodhawk, Jan 13, 2017
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    I for one am glad LPC-Digital is a Prema partner. Can't wait to put my delidded silicon lottery 7700k in. Should be this weekend.


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    Nope, not I.
     
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    izombot, Jan 14, 2017
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    that's much safer then. go for it
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i wasn't gonna do what Linus did. I ain't doing that.

     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I didn't watch it but I'm pretty sure it's the one that he puts normal TIM back on after and claims it's not worth it.. lol
     
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    though my point is i won't be using a craft knife to delid.
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I didn't have the stones either. The Rocket88 is the way to go. I've done 4 chips on it so far - I've definitely made it worth while . It takes about 20 seconds and there is something extremely satisfying about doing it each time.
     
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    essentially it's pushing/sliding the IHS across the surface until the glue holding the IHS down gives way.

    i've ordered one so will see how long it takes to get from wherever it comes from to Australia.
     
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    Tesco diamond dipped Razer bladesdid the job nicely for me.
     
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    i ain't going all the way to the UK just for razor blades.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You should be able to find an equivalent :p
     
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    I broke 12k without prema! But thanks for pushing me down a place :mad:
     
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