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benches for now

 

You need to reboot with DSE off every single time you want to... and you need to disable secure boot if on W10, or DSE cannot be turned off at all.

Then I should make it my daily driver

 

Secure boot was already disabled in my bios. Is that what you meant?

 

It is. Just making sure people know that disabling DSE (which requires an advanced reboot then selecting disable DSE) needs Secure Boot off on W10 to work

 

Thanks, that's the way I did it but graphics drivers wont install.

 

Both.

Weird, are you getting something like this at the bottom right of your desktop ? -



If not, then DSE is still enabled.

I Disabled it by launching command prompt (as admin, right click the Windows icon on the bottom left) and copy pasting this -

bcdedit /set {current} testsigning yes

As @D2 Ultima already mentioned, secure boot needs to be off, and seems to be disabled in your case.

On the drivers end, if 376.19 doesnt work for you, i have feeling you might need to go with 376.48 or higher. In either case, just use one of the @j95 modded ones.

 

Yes I am getting that in the bottom right corner when I boot up. Was there a specific way to launch the NVidia drivers?

 

Nope, and did you replace the modded .inf files in the driver folder?

Im sorry for asking these stupid questions, if you have already taken care of things. But just need to double check.

If it still doesn't work try this one Prema posted with 376.48 -

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...oenix-2-is-here.794530/page-842#post-10428272

 

Well I'm new to this so am probably not doing something correct. I thought you had to install it then put the modded drivers. So you have to make a folder and install the modded drivers first? Time for sleep anyways lol will have to play tomorrow.

 

Nope, extract drivers , THEN drop the modded inf files in the Display.Driver folder and replace the existing ones.
Delete all folders other than these ones :



And then install.

 

You need the modded inf. Nvidia file

 

Thanks I understand now I believe I will do this tomorrow. Will this modified file work with earlier version 376.19 or does that have a specific modified file as well?

 

The one for 376.19 should be on one of the previous pages. But im not sure if that version works with Kaby lake or not, give it a shot.

 

It works on my Notebook only with the 376.48 + modded .inf

 

Thanks again for the help got 376.60 installed and all is well. Looks like 5.0 will be my daily driver. Temps max around 80 or less while benching. Still have to give games a try though. With fans off in auto modes temps don't go much over 60 surfing and mid to high 30s when not completing any tasks. Liking the 7700k!

 

Do you guys think that the 780W power adapter will work with the next generation of P870 series? Like the complete refresh not the new K models. Don't want to bite the bullet now and have to buy another in the future.

Thanks!

 

The cable in the production units is detachable and it can be used on all 19-20v DC Notebooks.
CoffeLake is still a long way out...

 

Not that many of you use the control center and I haven't for a while but just FYI it does not work with the new sager bios. Assuming there is a newer version out there that will work with it.

 

What functionality is lost w/out CCC?

 

Hummm i think he might be talking about the Overclock utility. Not sure.
Been testing latest CLEVO BIOS and even the latest for KB (P7 models) seems to work with CC without any problem.

 

It installs but if you try to open up the CPU/Memory edit to adjust the setting it just shows a blank screen with no options.

Edit: the version of control center I am talking about is the one on Sager's site 5.0001.0.81

 

Which version of Control Center have you been testing the bios with?

 

You need to use a minimum of CCC 5.1.1.1 for KBL, but even with the latest version there are still bugs like no LID LED control. Working with Clevo R&D to get that fixed...

 

Hi @Prema. Do you have now the finish bios release? I am very hote to use this bios. And i want to give you something

 

Thanks, Prema!!

 

The latest beta of CCC CPU OC utility works fine for me with 7700K. You have to install the latest version of XTU to support it... or at least I had to. Without XTU installed the CPU OC Utility was crashing. I think it must be missing some files or has wrong versions that XTU adds to the OS somewhere.

 

Thanks Fox where did you download it from. I tried Clevo but can't seem to download anything from the site.

 

It's not available for public use yet. There are things that are still broken that need to be fixed.

 

Ok, thanks.

 

@Phoenix download of version 5.1.1.7:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ac6pao8cfobhdh2/Control+Center+AP+v5.1.1.7.zip

 

no keyboard light control is the most important

Also, CCC allows you to choose Automatic or more aggressive Overclock fan profile

 

Very Nice!!

 

Does anyone know a setting to keep the audio from contantly cutting in/out with the @Prema BIOS? I didn't used to have any issues with it crackling, cutting in/out, etc with the stock BIOS... But it's definitely occurring now. I remember reading something from @Phoenix about having different voltages on Core/Cache, so made sure those were the same but it made no difference. Having both set to 4.5GHz and -50mV it's still crackling, whereas I've ran it before at 4.8GHz without any issues.

I seems like it may have something to do with trying to rapidly enter/exit power saving states. I was basically just running the Win10 Pandora app trying to listen to music as I do many days when working... But if the computer is mostly idle then it's not even a semi-pleasant listening experience.

However, if I open up GPU-Z, for example, and run the render test then audio plays perfectly while the machine is under a load...

Ideas??

 

My experience with MY CPU is any Cache Ratio overclocking gives you Audio crackling

@infex also had it but he told me that if he changes the Cache Ratio overclock from let's say:

44X max
44X min

and sets it at

44X max
0 min

it fixes the audio crackling, as in, let it slow down when it is not being hammered

myself, I just don't bother with it as the performance benefits are negligible with cache ratio overclocking at the expense of only giving you more CPU heat

 

There is no separate cache voltage in BIOS for good reason.
Are you using TS?

 

Not usually, typically just have used XTU in the past to set OC stuff. Strangely enough... I opened TS to see if it would "fix" the issue, and the audio played fine. Closed TS & it still played fine.

Rebooted and went into BIOS & did see I had the min ring domain ratio was set to 40, so changed it back to 0. Booted into Windows & all is fine now

So not sure which of those things actually fixed it.... Or if it was just some random Windows issue that I needed to reboot. But all better now

Thanks @Phoenix & @Prema for the quick replies

 

Be smart....be like Phoenix

 

Explanation. Purty puhreez.

 

Yes, disable power management and that will stop that. I know exactly what you are talking about. Alienware had that problem with Realtek audio as well... goes back many years.

Power Management is ENABLED here. The bubble is blue.


Power Management is DISABLED here. The bubble is dark. The wording always says "Enabled" even when it is "Disabled" which is confusing.
The only way you can tell is the bubble turns dark when disabled.

 

I do that too, but doesn't fix the issue for me if I overclock my Cache Ratio or at least don't set the min cache ratio to 0

 

I like having the ability to set cache voltage different than core with 7700K due to thermals. Since we can no longer do that I have to use ThrottleStop for that.

I got better performance from 6700K with the cache ratio and voltage matched to core ratio and voltage. Having a difference between core and cache voltage allows for fluctuation and makes using static voltage not doable. When they are equal you don't see nearly as much erratic change in voltage. With 6700K having the cache ratio and voltage as high as the core had no effect on my CPU temps that I could tell. With 7700K cache ratio and voltage has a very pronounced influence on CPU temps. I don't know why this is different with 7700K, but it is. If I can get my 7700K thermals under better control, I expect setting them equal will be ideal as it was with 6700K.

 

did you try doing an NVRAM reset before installing the CPU?

If you didn't

To perform a soft NVRAM Reset without having to open the laptop and remove the CMOS battery:

Hold FN + D + Power button for 5 seconds, then keep the FN + D buttons pressed and release the Power key, after 30 seconds, you should see the NVRAM reset message on your screen.

Another user also mentioned:

 

Ask Intel, according to them it's not 'healthy' for the chip to unlink the domains.

Switch it on while holding 'FN' and 'D' buttons.
Also don't install CPU/GPU while the battery is in the system.

 

Does clearing the NVRAM help? FN+D or pulling the CMOS battery?

Did you set BIOS defaults before installing it. If you had custom settings for 6700K OC that might be what is causing it.

 

The cutting in/out and problem going away with a render test suggests power management is kicking in. I think the crackling you had is similar, but two distinct problems coming into play. I have never noticed any crackling or popping noises like you had, but if I enable power management in Realtek Control Panel my audio is totally spastic and sounds like what he is talking about. Mine is really bad about cutting in/out with power management enabled.

Edit... had to add the second screen shot to my prior post. The wording always says "Enabled" even when it is "Disabled" which is confusing. The only way you can tell is the bubble turns dark when disabled.

 

Thanks for specifically pointing that out... Didn't even notice it up there!

 

Be smart, be like Phoenix

 

I have it for now until I get my new taptop

@bloodhawk

 

Gotcha. That indeed is interesting.

 

I'm looking into a barebones now
I have to many extra/spare components sitting with me sooo selling the extra stuff will be very painstaking and expensive for me.