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Actually I am. I just wanted a good driver to take, preferably one that would actually install.

I'm just using his 376.60 driver as it's the last driver prior to the GPU-killer and its hotfix (which he did make mods for).

I'm doing a LOT of file transferring xD. It's so easy over the network honestly.

 

@j95 version always, regardless of GeFarts version. I say 375.50 or 375.95, both of which you can download from his thread.

 

Stupid question time, where can I find the j95 drivers and what is changed vs the standard release ones?

 

You need to be a part of the forum community for downloading drivers and Mod's https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...er-support-modded-inf/&page=63#comment-154514

 

Thanks man!

 

Yep, we should all spend a little more time there. Myself included.

 

With some of the recent stuff that went down over there. I'm not really sure about that.
And I really dislike their new adblocker policy. I'm down to disable it if they ask nicely and not enforce it forcefully.

 

I think I might know what you're talking about.

 

hey guys what's up hope all of you are doing well! long time no read! i've been away for work for almost a year an now i'm back again since i came back i got a p870dm3, well, an xmg 727 2017 (xmg is a german company like sager etc. - same machine just branded with the xmg logo ;-) ). since from where i live it's pretty much impossible to get your hands on a machine from a prema-partner if you're not willing to spend like 800 bucks + for customs, fees etc. :-/ so anyways, i'm stuck with stock bios's and i'm trying to flash the new bios 1.05.03 that xmg put out two weeks ago. now i think i've just been away from doing stuff like this for too long (a year seems to be enough.. ) and i'm stuck and though maybe some of you might be able to help
i downloaded the neccessary files from xmg and to create a usb boot stick they use the hp usb disk storage tool. i tried it on different machines (all win 10), but everytime i try to create a bootbable usb i get the message, that it wasn't able to format the stick. tried different sticks as well.
how do you guys create the sticks to boot from for the bios flash for this machine, like what tool do you use? also, as i looked at the system files to use for the bootstick part they are dos and not uefi. so before using the stick i'll have to disable uefi boot right?
sorry for this noobish question, but i just can't seem to get anywhere by myself on this task ;-)
cheers dudes

 

What size stick are you using?

 

the last one i tried was an 8gb one, 16gb before.

 

Try and format it in windows to a FAT file system first.

 

i tried that as well. works without a problem. but as soon as the hp tool tries to format the stick(s) and fails, i have to use windows disk management to create a volume on it again. really puzzled

 

so now i downloaded an older version of the hp usb tool, that worked. disabled uefi boot, booted to the usb stick. meset.exe worked. after i enter flashme.bat, "this program cannot be run in dos mode". flashme.bat contains the following:

@echo off

@Set BIOS.ROM=P870KM.03

:: Flash ME

fptW64 -f %BIOS.ROM% -l 0x200000 -y
if errorlevel 1 goto End

AFUwinx64.exe %BIOS.ROM% /p /b /n /R /shutdown

:End


i start to wonder about why they build this .bat they way it's built (afuwinx64.exe - wth!)

it even states in the readme "run meset.exe in pure dos" and "run flashme.bat in pure dos"

dafuq, this will be a long night xD -.-

 

Hi folks, new to the board, first time poster.

I have a P870DM3-G and am having some heat issues. I've tried searching this thread for some suggestions, and did reduce the voltage on the CPU which helped, but the GPU still gets really hot (90*C) when under load and is 60*C idle. Is there a driver or a setting change I can implement to try to cool this down?

I bought mine from Origin PC, which I understand is anathema around here, but after all the promos I got, it was the cheapest out of all the alternate vendors by several $.

One other issue that I have other than the GPU heat issue, I don't seem to have the option to change the color of the lights on the laptop cover. Not a big deal, but odd omission.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, even just a link to more reading sources. Thanks in advance!

 

There you go

 

where do you get these thermal pads? And do you have to apply these after purchasing the pc?

 

Have you removed the silver dust filter under the back cover? It blocks some air from the GPU fan.

Also Meaker's thermal pad replacement guide is good.

You can get arctic 6WM/k from Amazon.com if you wish and use those to pad them. 145mm x 145mm is fairly cheap, only a $10-$15 per set (0.5mm, 1mm, 1.5mm)

 

As above, you don't need the crazy expensive ones to get a nice impact (the pads themselves are not what its about anyway).

 

I am getting back my laptop after an RMA. @hidevolution got it fixed in 2 days which is super fast. I have asked Zoltan to let me know what the issue was. I will let you know how it goes once I get back the laptop.

 

Which VR headset do you guys recommend for the P870DM3 with dual gtx 1080? Occulus Rift or HTC Vive or the 4k ready Pimax 4k?

 

Whats this about removing a dust cover? Is that safe for the PC? And I seen the cover that blocks what looks like holes in the bottom cover. Any tips on how to remove? Looks like there held in with rivits.

 

You can see it. I believe you kind of just rip it out of there. @Phoenix and @Mr. Fox both have videos doing it.

 

can you link me to one of the videos please.

 

check near the end where he rips off the dust filters. You only need to do the silver one, I believe, but he does all of them.

 

Greetings, Y'all,

Apologies in advance if: a) I missed a post somewhere regarding my query, or b) if I come off as a bit frustrated (I *am*).

~~~

So, up front: I'm looking for the Prema BIOS for my XoticPC NP9873/P870DM3.

Back the last time I was lurking this forum (DEC/JAN, pgs. 840-880), I discovered that a lot of retailers were becoming Prema Partners, and, although that meant I had to wait a bit longer, I was ecstatic.

In any case, I contacted Patrick at XoticPC (as someone had mentioned in this thread) and he told me they should be ready in a few weeks. Fast-forward to today (FEB12) and Patrick says SAGER does not want XoticPC using Prema BIOS, so...here I am.

I've read the remaining pages (pgs. 881-916), but I didn't see any mention of anything XoticPC-related, or anything generic NP9873/P870DM3-related, so I'm at a loss. (I also checked over at Prema's BIOSMODS website, but...no joy.)

So if, in my frustration/rush, I missed an obvious post, please spank me accordingly...but then point me in the right direction, mmmkay?

Many thanks, guys.

P.S.
Current BIOS: 1.05.04LS2, dated 27OCT2016

 

Try reaching out to www.premamod.com. Perhaps some conversation with Prema and contributing to the cause may help in your predicament.

 

I suggest you sell or refund your laptop and buy it from a Prema partner

 

If you don't mind your laptop being out of warranty you may be able to donate to Prema as jclausius suggested or you could sell and buy from a Prema partner as Phoenix suggested.

 

How much of a difference did this actually make?

 

don't know. Haven't tried it yet. But I think I'm about to.

 

I am sure it is going to be really based on the fans you are using under the laptop to cool it along with cutting it out. I was thinking about cutting a whole in my desk and using a big fan. I believe I had seen on the forums where someone had already done this. I don't remember where it was or who did it but it sounded like a interesting project.

 

Well that is part of it, but the existing dust filters actually block one of the GPU fan intakes.

Also, I think I'm probably going to discard even checking non-delidded CPU temperatures... I was hitting 90c just playing Final Fantasy earlier.

 

Ahh, did not think about that as I am only currently running 1 GPU. I yanked it out of there though and rearranged my fans on the Notebook U2 cooler. Will play some games and see if it dropped the temps at all.

From what I could tell with about 20 minutes of gameplay the temperatures were about 3C less, so they are probably about the same. Maybe with a better fan setup it would make a difference but did not see much of a difference.

Edit: with only 1 GPU though maybe it will make a bigger difference for you with SLI.

 

A single 1080 really does not stress the cooler so yeah it's going to be fine whatever.

 

I appreciate the link, thank you! I don't know if I'm at a point where I'll be opening the laptop since I got a free 4-year warranty on it contingent on me not doing so. If the difference is 2-3 degrees as some folks above report, is it really worthwhile?

I assume based on the responses there is no simple and easy way to manage the 1080's heat like with the CPU undervolt. I will try a cooling pad underneath the laptop, how I am storing it is probably part of the problem. I plug it into a docking station, so I don't use the laptop itself, it rests on the pull-out keyboard shelf of my desk, so ventilation is not 100% ideal. If the cooling pad does not work, I will start contemplating more extreme options.

By the way, just as a aside, but the original post with the specs of this laptop has it listed as maxing out at the 4.0Ghz processor, but mine has the 7700K 4.2 with a 4.5 turboboost. Something Origin cooked up or just an option not mentioned in the OP?

Thanks again!

 

The thermal pad re-arrangement makes about a 12C difference under load, independent of any other changes.

 

That's a huge deltaT, so I appreciate that. I will have to coordinate with Origin to see if they will allow me to do this, because I do not feel like shipping it back and forth.

 

I estimate that pads, liquid metal and dust filter removal have changed my temps by around 20-25C.

 

By liquid metal I assume you mean thermal compound?

Also, I currently only have a single card in mine (to have an upgrade path for down the road along with adding a second m2 drive for raid 0), does that change anything about the process.

 

Your right but I was actually hoping more to drop the temps on my overclocked 7700k rather than the gpu which is already running in the low 60s by opening the intake a little more and adding additional fans on the CPU side. Will probably work on the fan mod next for the u2 cooler.

Ya prema does not have anything listed for download yet so you would have to contact prema directly.

 

yeah, you're going to have to reach out. There is nothing to download.

@Prema, I think @FesterSilently would like to contact you.

 

Hey, so I have a question for all you owners. I have noticed that if I let my screen time out ( basically like this) when I wake it, my USB devices appear to have a short, but serious, latency problem.

USB headset will have sound jitter for about 1-2 seconds. my DS4 controller actually had warnings thrown in DS4Windows saying the controller is "now under 10ms latency", which means it spiked above 10ms. This never happened on my old machine, and it's the same gear. This coupled with the fact that my wifi card appears to refuse to function correctly (throughput and network connections are fine, but I have high jitter that won't go away), and my inability to install a touchpad driver makes me wonder if this machine (as-configured, anyway) thoroughly dislikes W8.1 to a point where it's not worthwhile to use it as a regular user?

Can anybody who is on W7 or W10 test these (leaving a youtube video playing in the background is sufficient to test the USB jitter for audio) and if someone has used both W8.1 and any other OS, can you report back if the issues exist across multiple OSes? I also have an issue of sorts where the primary screen doesn't show me the windows login screen either. I can see the coloured screen when it's "sigining in" to my profile on my second monitor, but my primary panel goes from the Sky X9E2 logo booting into windows to a black screen to the desktop. I also have a loading circle appear next to my mouse once every few minutes

I'm going to be testing W10 sometime this week, but I'm wondering if maybe an OS reinstall might fix what I'm experiencing on W8.1 here. If I *must* switch to 10, then I suppose I will do as need be, but I'm still resisting as much as I can.

Please note, these are the only "issues" thus far I've noticed. In terms of normal operation like... playing a game, watching videos, installing things, etc? It works flawlessly. I don't have CCC installed yet, I don't know if that makes enough difference. But I just find these things a bit odd, considering how 8.1 worked on my previous notebook. It's a fresh install with an officially-acquired untouched OS from Microsoft, so there should be no issues with the image itself. Wondering if somehow using the W10 drivers on W8.1 has somehow provided some problems somewhere, but I somehow doubt this.

Aaand sorry for the double-post, but @Prema @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER might be closest to answer or be able to check this; I would go back and edit your tags in the above post, but then you won't get alerted.

 

Can you check what your DPC latency is like? And if it comes includes with the jitters ?

Also in most cases it's pretty much some.driver messing things up , and mainly Nvidia's.
If you have your cache undervolted , you can even try setting that to default.

 

BIOS is stock. Did not check DPC latency. BIOS is stock, no voltage adjustments yet.

Only notice any USB issues in the specific stance I mentioned, but I will check

Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut

Edit: DPC latency is around the 1100 to 1200 range. A bit high considering W8.1 should handle 1000 on average, but there hasn't been a single red spike (maximum was 1257). It's been running for err... 10 minutes or more now? I even let the screen timeout while it was running and when I moved the mouse my audio snapped as usual but the DPC latency was perfectly fine.

 

did you overclock your Cache Ratio by any chance?

 

BIOS is stock

I DO tweak everything on my PC to infinity, certainly, but I have to make sure it works at stock first, you know?

Edit: Here is a video of the "unable to see windows login" issue when booting


Edit #2: THAT IS A LOT OF LOUD WIND. BE WARNED.

 

@bloodhawk

Did you get your laptop bro?

 

It's out for delivery and I'm at work
I'm probably going to be home super late though

 

*cough* boss I've suddenly got very dizzy *cough*



Good luck lasting through