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Are they separate plugs though? I only know of the one connector for the speaker that is in the bottom left under the keyboard.

Edit: Keep in mind the laptop is on the other side of the country from me as well, so I am limited to what the buyer is capable of. Anything outside of taking the bottom panel and keyboard off is pretty much gonna be a no go.

 

Probably better to contact Sager tech support for help. I don't have one in front of me either.

 

Nope its on the same plug IIRC.
The connector should be accessible from under the keyboard.

 

Sorry. I delete my post.

 

Yep, using my stolen and leaked unlock (cough Exe....) code once again, but this time done by a person pretending to be a friend...just for some desperate clicks, that hurts.

But since you registered here just to post this...

 

Not good for the community, not good for Prema, who works hard to make our machines that much better.

And as Prema says "just for some desperate clicks"

 

Anyone thats need a bios for their machines soon realises there is only one true master of the Clevo bios and thats Prema

 

Ok. Now all link already deleted.

 

Thanks but not important...
The worst part is that the files where digitally signed by an official Clevo re-seller cryptographic license-key, so that's going to be a major legal problem for the re-seller it was entrusted with as these BIOS had dozens of options that brick the system (RMA cost)...

 

Well it's good to hear that the leak has been tracked down and the files removed.

Does sound like someone is going to be having a fun time over the next few days

 

Is it just me or has this crap started happening way too often now.
But people are just too foolish to even think they can get away with **** like this.

 

I do training videos for Maya and Lightwave and often find our work renamed/repackaged and put up on the torrent sites. It's something we have gotten used to.

We do get really p***ed off when the videos are put on dvd and sold on eBay for silly money but that said eBay to remove them pretty quickly. Do feel sorry those that do buy them.

But people feel they can get away with it for whatever reason

 

I would like to add that re-sellers should be more careful, i´ve seen some re-sellers sharing full zip files just like the ones we (re-sellers) get from CLEVO. This means that some re-sellers are actually sharing sign tools that CLEVO did not allow! CLEVO explicitly asks us NOT TO SHARE them.

We also got bricked units from clients and from stores who are re-selling our OBSIDIAN-PC brand. These units were bricked with BIOS versions that we do not know where they came from, they are not our BIOS and they were not PREMA bios. Although we do free unbrick service let me be perfectly clear, clients who flash any BIOS besides our own or PREMA will have to pay for repairs. If you also brick the EC it may even need a MBO replacement.

 

I know what you mean, i work in the VFX Industry and use Houdini/3DsMax/Maya . And the best learning i have had was from actually paid workshops/courses. Its jut stupid how people just shrugs off their actions after stealing something/someones work.

 

Yes it would be nice to have some professionalism back from certain places but I guess it can be too much to expect some times.

 

Gotta love the sarcasm.

They should be taken out behind the woodshed for some "larnin"

 

Not to derail the current conversation, but I need to order the copper shims people have been using on their 7700k to get better cooling contact. I plan on ordering some thermal paste soon so any help would be appreciated. Is it better to remove the c-clips? And if so is there any danger to that?

 

I got my 0.5mm shims on ebay. Used Conductonaut between the shim and heatsink, then used ICD for shim and IHS.

Also ran a tiny bead of silicon sealant around shim/heatsink to prevent Conductonaut leakage. I left the clips on. Have removed clips on other clevo heatsinks they to tend to ping off and get lost, plus not that easy to get back on without a c-clip tool.

 

Does an Intel Pentium G4400 work in the P870DM3 with Prema Mod v1?

 

It should do, though from the 7700K that would be a large step down

 

Yes i know. I will use the 60€ G4400 for testing a cooling mod, i will not risk my 380€ 7700K cpu

 

All depends on the cpu bracket quality (See... The Clevo Cpu bracket lottery-in addition to the HS lottery ). If there is no clearance due Cpu bracket... Then it will not help to remove the C-clips. Heatsink will lie on the cpu bracket. Aka No gain. Copper shims will help.

 

Hi all, I'm hoping someone on this extensive and super informative thread can help me - I'm looking for a source for the cable-side power connector for my P870DM3 so that I can make a custom DC power cable for it. Does anyone know where to find this connector? It seems to be some sort of nonstandard mini-DIN-like 4-pin (similar to the Kycon KPJX-CM-4S but with a different pin/key arrangement and no spring lock). I'd rather buy the connector than buy the AC adapter or splitter box and hack off the part I need...

Any hints?

 

What dimensions of shim did you purchase. I want to make sure I get a good contact area.

 

30mm x 30mm x 0.5mm it fits perfectly on the IHS

 

Check the star nut that you insert the teeth of the bracket into, it could be the angle of the picture but it looks like it could do with adjusting.

 

I've never even thought to check that on mine.

 

@Meaker@Sager Experience helps in this game and I have little. But learning

 

Not something I have seen being off but you never know and I usually take a fine tooth comb when looking at adjusting things

 

Is it worth getting the 7700K? I probably won't need to overclock, but I'm wondering if it runs hotter or cooler than the 7700. Also, does the IC Diamond Thermal Compound help at all with temps?

 

7700k is pretty hot from what I gather, especially if you don't delid...

 

Yes, it has a higher clock and TDP than the 7700 so will run hotter.

 

The CPU choice will depend on what you are going to use the computer to do.

Yes, IC Diamond applied to CPU + GPU will help considerably.

 

Also in addition to the above, most people will notice the improvment of the higher TDP and more consistent turbo speeds with the 7700 over the mobile 7700HQ.

 

I simply want to game, so I'm leaning towards the 7700. Since it runs much cooler, will it help keep the SLI GPUs from overheating?

 

please delete

 

7700hq is BGA, 7700 is LGA and locked down as well. Opt for 7700K. If you are concerned about temp, You shouldn't be that. The only option I will suggest for you.

 

If all you do is game the 7700 will get the job done, if you have no desire to tweak.

 

Since 6700k runs as cool as 80C max while running on 4.0 GHz compared to 100C when doing 4.2 GHz, I would be curious of 6700 would be cooler in the same conditions when compared to 6700k if 6700k is locked at 4.0 GHz.

This ponders the same thing though, if 6700 would run too hot, it would be far simpler to just decrease the speed with just a little bit on 6700k than being locked on 6700.

 

No gain going from 6700K to locked down 6700. Aka within same gen processors. You can "cripple" your unlocked i7 down to same performance and same max temp as the locked down Processor. Normally is the unlocked Cpu of better binned quality. Temp is tied to voltage and clocks. Lower means normally lower temp!! And lower clocks means... Yeah, you know

 

The 6700k or whatever you are running, is running hot FOR YOU, and not everyone. So i wouldn't just generalize it like that and say every processor in every system will run like that.
Stop posting info, just for the heck of posting something.

 

I am an average user, don't blame me for the temps I'm getting, it is 30 - 35C outside in Romania.

We should consider that not everyone will have optimal conditions - I didn't say that 6700K will always run hot, but those are the results I am getting - it is best to know that some people are getting higher temps than me, it might help some people to know how I lowered my temps

 

Being an average user does not give you the liberty to just blindly draw conclusions or post wrong info. First you are using a different system, second not every 6700k/7700k uses the same voltage, third we have no idea of how good your paste job/delid/thermal pads etc are, and finally Based off of the first 2 things alone, you cannot just generalize and say that the processor with just run hot. Specially when there are a bunch of re-sellers already who are taking many steps to prevent that from happening.

btw. Where im at in LA , the temps are pretty much 30C these days.

 

I didn't say it runs hot...

I don't mind getting 80C on 4.0 GHz with -100mV, it sounds reasonable for a laptop.

As for the paste job, I honestly cannot say.

If my results are the poorest one can get, it is fine, I still consider them good to know / keep in mind for users who want to purchase P775.

My guess is that what I'm doing wrong is posting them in P870 while the results are for P775 - it was more of a conversation about the CPU and whether the k version is better than the non-k version. The K version should come in handy for people, and even if it runs hot, you can control the temperatures, with non-k, the user cannot do much about their temps.

I do wish I worked with one of the sellers who offers anti - overheating solutions, why not at least let the people know that it is good to work with shops that are @Prema partner shops and who offer better thermals, my bad example can still help people make better choices and can also help increase how competitive sellers are in their services.

 

I just try to help people out with my observations, I don't need to post anything if you don't want me in here. . .

 

Your info was a bit of

 

Okay... I'll refrain from posting such things and in the wrong thread.

A moderator can kindly wipe my posts if it is considered necessary.

Anyways, I do support Clevo and I do think that they are great if doing intensive tasks - I apologize if my comments came otherwise. I had a few laptops before and nothing got results as good as P775 has - I just might be a klutz when it comes to applying paste and doing those hardware related work...

EDIT: I stalk this thread because I am really curious about the developments in P870, would love to upgrade to it sometime in the future, 1 video card, but would be good for better thermals on the CPU

 

The P870 platform does focus far more on the GPU side rather than CPU. You are looking at the GPUs consuming over 400W with the CPU being around 100W.

 

Anyone know if Clevo has any battery calibration software? I was at 15% at my "warning" battery level and the system just "hard" powered off. I'm thinking I may need to have it calibrated.....