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Yes, very disappointing. I know exactly what you experienced. It used to be the best. I don't know what they are doing now, but I wasted probably $75 USD trying to get one good tube of the stuff and finally decided I was done. I have not regretted the switch to Conductonaut.

 

I have had 2 tubes of Conductonaut so far and it has been pretty consistent.

 

I switched from Liquid Ultra to Conductonaut when I received my P870 early last year. It was mostly only me and @iunlock who used Grizzly Conductonaut. Most of people who preferred LM used CLU. You changed between CLU and Phobya Liquid Metal, if I remember correct. Although it was thinner than Liquid Ultra, this has worked out excellent for me(no special steps preventing leakage). The change in the Coolaboratory's production line (uneven quality is the main reason for the change. Not the higher price or 1-2 degrees better temp for Conductonaut). Quality comes first. Prices last.

 

Agree 100%. If the quality, results and durability are off the hook awesome, it's OK if the product costs considerably more. It will save you time, money and headaches over the long run. The only time the higher cost might be an issue is if you frequently disassemble for experiments.

 

Looks like I also lost the ability to change the LID color after reinstalling. Tried two different versions of CCC.

I'm assuming I had it before because I had a Skylake CPU then upgraded to a Kaby Lake CPU within the same windows install. Otherwise I don't know why I lost it.

 

Are you also using Conductonaut on the GPUs?

 

I am. I have the foam borders on those as well.

 

I'm riding them bare back with liquid metal, but then again I used a razer to slice open my CPU so it's not always the best example Some soft foam like Mr. Fox has would be the best solution IMO.

 

Indeed, the delid tool is much easier. I have a new 7700K coming from Monoprice.com to replace the one I borrowed from the Tornado F5 for the P870DM-G. I will have a chance to use it for the second time. My first four delid procedures were done with a razor blade. It was never a problem, but it's much faster and less stressful to use the tool, and no risk for the CPU or your fingers.

 

Do you carry your laptop around ? If is just sitting on your desk I dont think it would matter much.

 

If you leave it sitting most of the time, the foam is not needed. It's just cheap insurance (or if you already have some of the stuff, it's totally free). Nothing beats peace of mind, and if you decide to go nuts and rag-doll the thing it's nice that you don't have to keep tabs... footloose and fancy free.

 

Good point, How about on the CPU ? did u manage to fit a foam there too?

 

Yes. It was even easier on the CPU. I have Kapton tape (yellow stuff under the foam in the photo below) surrounding the GPU dies on the PCB part of the GPU. I have Kaptop tape bridging the area between the CPU IHS and the silver CPU retention bracket. That way none can drop into that opening... totally sealed off. I put a drop or two of super glue on the Kaptop tape at each side of the CPU and GPU dies to hold the foam so it does not slide out of place during assembly. I have done this on the DM3 and the 16L13.




I also lapped the IHS, and that helped a lot.



@D2 Ultima - did you get yours done yet, bro?

 

@D2 Ultima - did you get yours done yet, bro?

 

I didn't, truthfully. I've had a terrible last month for various reasons, I haven't even opened it to clean it, or even used the computer that much recently. Or slept much recently. But I'll get it done soon, you'll be the first to see how it benefits

 

I'm having a problem with my p870dm3 HDMI output to my 4k TV at 60hz. I get green dots all over the screen and a video signal that goes black every few seconds. The audio sounds distorted (static sound combined with actual sound) when there is the video with green dots, and the audio cuts out 100% when the screen goes black. The problem goes away when I set the refresh rate to 30hz. I thought it could be a bad cable but I tried it with my other laptop and everything works perfect at 60hz. Any ideas what could be causing this problem?

 

if it isn't drivers, it sounds like you're probably going to need to RMA it for a bad port on the motherboard.

 

It travels all over with me.

 

Thanks for the advice. After further investigation it appears it's a bandwidth limitation of the cable. At first I thought the cable was fine, because it worked fine with my other laptop, but I didn't realize I didn't have the refresh rate and color settings the same as in my p870dm3. What I've learned is that trying to run 4K resolution at 60hz with HDR/full color output at 4:4:4 takes almost 18Gbps, and my cable is only rated for 10. That's why dropping refresh to 30hz fixes everything as the cable can handle it. I was able to get it to run at 60hz, but with the limited color range at 4:2:0, which is much less bandwidth. I'm going to get a much nicer hdmi cable and hopefully that fixes it. Monster makes a nice 27Gbps cable, but it costs $200 for the length of cable I need!

 

You probably should just get a displayport cable then?

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My TV doesn't have a display port connection. I suppose I could do a mini display port to hdmi cable, but I'd have to find one with high bandwidth, plus I already use my two mini displayports for my HTC Vive and ASUS PG279Q monitor.

 

Note that the cables between the specs are pretty much the same, bandwidth limitations are usually based on the ports at either end.

Unless you need to break specs in terms of length of cable then the "highend" cable market is basically the homeopathy of the electronics world.

 

I have read a lot of people saying this same thing, that hdmi cables generally aren't all that different and it's really a lot of marketing bs to get people to spend more money than they have to. I think this is true for the most part. But in my situation I'm running a 35 foot cable that has a supposed bandwidth of 10.2 Gbps, and apparently running 4:4:4 chroma 4k@60hz does require more bandwidth. Maybe that long cable length makes the bandwidth requirement more important? The green dots/flashes I'm experiencing are consistent with what others have had and getting a higher bandwidth cable has helped them. I'll have to report back once I get the cable but I won't be doing it for a few weeks since I will be out of town. I'll report back once I do it.

 

As I said as you do extend beyond normal lengths then quality can matter more, beyond 25 feet spending a bit more could be worth it, going into the silly spectrum with monster is still not though

 

I've seen the wonderful image/diagram of the heatsink with all of the thermal padding labeled and color coded a few times in this thread, can anyone link the original post/thread that that pic came from? I'd like to see whatever other info the OP gave to accompany it.

 

Mr Fox where did you get that very thin foam ?? I am planning to do this this weekend. I got the yellow tape (clear tape) and the liquid metal but have not found the foam

 

Got a new cable and 4k@60hz with 4:4:4 chroma works! I think the issue was the bandwidth. Most cables greater than 25ft are rated with 10.2Gbps bandwidth, as was the case with my 35 ft cable. I went with an Amazon Basics 25ft rated at 18Gbps and now everything works.

 

I saved this one a while back, credit to Mobius1. There is also one that @Meaker@Sager put up. It's buried somewhere in this thread. I have that one saved on my computer at home. Can upload it later.

 

That should mostly cover it

 

I think if you use the @ symbol before their name, it notifies them. So @Mr. Fox , I'd like to know this info too. The tape HIDEvolution installed with the CL liquid ultra seems to be holding just fine with the second application of liquid ultra I've applied, but the foam looks like it would be more robust and I'll probably do that the next time I repaste the CPU.

 

Here we go

 

You could always put a thin layer of tape on top of the foam if you are concerned about it touching the metal.

 

Thanks @Papusan Do you know where he got the pressure sensitive sheet of paper to check for CPU contact? Or the name of it? I'm planning on doing the repasting this weekend and i have a feeling I will need to lap my cpu

 

Hello all. I was wondering if i got the p870dm2 or dm3 if i can temporarily use one or both of my 980m from my np9377 machine... until i get a 1080 for it. Also, would there be an issue with heatsinks? Thanks

 

No, the cards have different layouts and shapes meaning the heatsinks wont fit the cards.

 

Hello everyone,

I have a like new/mint condition EVOC P870DM3 purchased from HIDEvolution that I need to sell. It is still under warranty and I definitely confirmed that the warranty is transferable. The specs are as follows:

- LCD Panel 17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology

- Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version

- Video Card DUAL NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 X (Desktop version), 200W - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled w/ Unlocked Prema vBIOS - Latest Updated Version once available
- Prema Custom BIOS Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version once available

- Delidded - Unlocked and Overclockable 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6700K Quad Core Processor, 4.0 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.2GHz), 8MB Smart Cache (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

- Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra + IC Diamond for Delidded CPU Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface + IC Diamond on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU

- Memory 32GB (2 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series Dual Channel DDR4/3000MHz

- 1st 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD

- 2nd 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD

- Wireless Cards Killer™ Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1

- Operating System - Windows 10 Pro with Installation CD/code

- Power Adapter 2x 330W with Converter Box (660W Total) AC Power Adapters (support 100-240V)

- Warranty and Service 2 Year HIDevolution Limited U.S. Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support (Warranty until December 2018 - fully transferable)

If anyone is interested, please PM me with an offer. Thank you.

@Mr. Fox @TBoneSan @Rage Set @bloodhawk @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @ssj92 @neohopper @Q937 @mayureshd @GTVEVO @Akaraah

 

I'm concerned that my battery has already degraded quite a bit? Should I contact LPC to look at replacing it? It has been "hard" powering off at around 12%. I did perform a calibration according to @Papusan

 

How often have you used the battery and when did you get it?

 

I got the laptop back in October of last year (basically right when they were shipping). I use it on battery occasionally letting it get down to maybe 50% once a month or every other month. Rarely did I let it go down all the way until last month when I wanted to calibrate.

It has been down to 10% before a few times over the year but not a ton.

 

Very nice

 

Not really considering that my battery appears to have quite a bit of life taken out of it.


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The foam dam that you are referring to is NOT to be used IN PLACE OF Kapton (or electrical) tape around the resistors !!!
What can be used to substitute for yellow tape are 3 coats of nail polish (transparent) around the surface mounted transistors.
Do NOT rely on foam to protect those.
Protecting your expensive hardware from short circuits is NOT something you want to cheap out on or skimp on. Don't take shortcuts.

The foam is to protect the liquid metal from ESCAPING The CPU or GPU area and sliding around on the motherboard or on the MXM card. Don't rely on it to protect the SMD's around the silicon, especially on the GPU. If you don't want to use tape, use nail polish and paint over the resistors with 3 coats. That will protect them well, but make sure you don't get any nail polish on the chip. The job of the foam is to keep the liquid metal from escaping the immediate area of the silicon when you move the laptop around, like in a backpack, or give it a hard bump.

 

Guys any news about the vbios?

 

Proud of our pc eheh

 

Hey guys, I just opened up my computer for the first time, and the stock thermal padding was very disintegrated and pretty awful. I was able to get 99% of it off, but some of the components on the GPUs still have the gunk stuck around them. The spaces are smaller than any pointy tool I have at my disposal, it’s pretty annoying. Do you guys have any tips for removing this stuff? Is this ok to have there or is it important that I get all of it ouut?

I took a close up pic of the spot with most of the crap on it. It’s identical on both GPUs, right to the left of the die on both of em. So frustrating!

 

It would be helpful if you told us exactly what model you have. The DM2 & DM3 have been discontinued for quite a while, so if you just bought it new, that would be unusual.

It would be even more helpful if you put your complete configuration in your signature...

Finally, circle the areas to which you are referring on your picture. It is difficult to discern what you are talking about without that final touch.

 

performance-pcs.com offer Bitspower IHS (Skylake model is also for Kaby lake - $15.95) if you wonder.

 

Hello guys. I want it to know if the prema vbios is finally out, i do have the premabios because i bought it throw hidevolution, but only the bios no Vbios. (Early p870dm3 adopter) thanks in Advance!

 

The Pascal vBIOS is locked down. No one has been able to mod it yet.