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    *** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The first error is "this command requires elevation" meaning it's doing something that needs admin permissions. Running it as admin would likely fix that.
     
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    Is there any tutorial how to open and install a M2 SSD on a P870DM2_DM3 notebook? Thanks.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    People should download, then read the manuals for all their notebook models.... P870DM3_ESM.zip
     
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    They are under the keyboard, there is a screw under the back cover for the keyboard and a hole next to the CPU socket/heatsink to prod through and raise the keyboard.
     
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    Thanks guy for info and the service manual, I'll read it carefully.

    Btw I expected more power from GTX 1080(single gpu) as the 3DMark Firestrike only gets 15650 points ando my old M18X-R2 (980M SLI) gets 13500 points (~12% difference). Should I overclock the gpu?

    i7-6700K / GTX 1080 / 16GB DDR4
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Post your 3DMark Firestrike bench scores (link). You can also post pict of "details" of benchmarks test(monitoring).
     
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    kerplop Notebook Enthusiast

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    'I know and I have run the SW as administrator on every attempt at installation.

    The whole program installs and usually everything starts except gamefeet.exe. I have it set to run as admin, I right-click 'run as administrator' and have even put it thru all the compatibility settings. It works about every 4th or 5th attempt to run it. Previously on Win 8.1 50001.1.73 worked perfectly.

    Are there any known conflicts with other software or drivers? Or just another Win 10 wonky oddity?
     
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    In all honesty. It's probably windows 10. Every other week I have to reinstall half my driver's because 10 did something stupid. I can't wait for Linux to get good for gaming.



    Sent from my LM-Q710.FGN using Tapatalk
     
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    Tulius Notebook Consultant

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    Ok this is my 3Dmark Firestrike score and its a little better now but is it normal such score?
    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/17994277
    3Dmark.jpg
     
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    Don't hold your breath ;)
     
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    But I got so good waiting for that dx12 mGPU goodness.

    Sent from my LM-Q710.FGN using Tapatalk
     
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    Actually it was Win 10.

    Had an update for .NET Framework 3.5 & 4.7.2 pushed yesterday from WU and after it installed I could get gamefeet.exe to open with right-click admin privileges in the Hotkey folder, but not thru the CCC app. That's odd 'cuz I already have the program set to run as administrator... but at least I can get it to work for the leds and am lucky to have ThrottleStop and Afterburner for the functional things.
     
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    Lol I figured as much. It keeps happening to me with my headphones, mouse, keyboard, Bluetooth and networking card built into the laptop.

    They sent me a survey asking how to improve windows and untold them stop breaking my **** when you update the damn OS. Lol

    Sent from my LM-Q710.FGN using Tapatalk
     
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    Where can I get an unlocked BIOS for EUROCOM Sky X9E2? Prema's website?
     
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    Last edited: Jan 25, 2019
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    I found out that hot area near left ctrl and Fn key's is because of battery.

    It's set at flexicharge. Not charging at all but still heating up. Anyone with same issue? Or idea what could cause battery heating while it is not charging at all?

    It also show me different wear level. Yesterday it was 24% and for example today is 40%.

    upload_2019-1-28_11-23-15.png
     
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    How to Calibrate Your Laptop's Battery for Accurate Battery Life
     
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    Hello guys, tomorrow the sale for rtx2080 mxm starts, do I need flash bios mother board for this card ? How I do it ? Do I need a flash tool ?
     
  20. Dmitry Zyabko

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    Answer from eurocom
    Thank you for your inquiry.



    Unfortunately the 2xxx series notebook will not work in your notebook. Here is a link to our X9E2 upgrade page. Here you will find what is available for your notebook…
     
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    It’s due to heatsink incompatibility.
     
  22. Dmitry Zyabko

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    just this?
    what about the motherboard?
     
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    AFAIK just that. Even the P870TM needs a modded heatsink to use the RTX cards.
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

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    The VRM and memory layouts are quite different.
     
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    Ok, I need change
    vaporation chamber, or mod this, for rtx card
     
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    I'm a bit confused by the front page especially as so many of the images are no longer up, and the Clevo Manual is no longer live either.

    I've recently repasted my NP9873-S, but some of the thermal pads were definitely looking a little iffy. Are the sizes in the last image in the post i've quoted above correct for replacing the thermal pads on the NP9873? I'm running a single GTX 1080 graphics card.
     
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    Yes pad thicknesses in the pic are correct

    You can find the service manual on premamod.team using the maintenance drop down menu
     
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    Did somebody already check if the 2080 card is compatible with the p870dm2 notebook?
     
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    Not with the existing heatsink I believe.
     
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    Is that the only problem? Or also bios ?
     
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    Not enough testing yet to be sure but usually the physical side is the main problem.
     
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    Has anyone tested the new 32GB DDR4 SODIMM's on this machine? I feel like they should work, but not 100% sure if it would be dependent on the CPU or the Z170.
     
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    @Prema Anyone know where the best place to get an updated unlocked Prema bios is? I have a EVOC machine from HIDEvolution, but am not sure the process. I'd obviously like the upgrade option for the 8700/9900K parts. I'm assuming my BIOS is too old to run that out of the box?
    [​IMG]
     
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    You would contact EVOC.
     
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    They can't verify the serial number and I wasn't the original purchaser, so I don't have the order number. SOL I guess unless I can pay someone to make one?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The system was bought from Sager and is not an EVOC. You bought your system from a guy who bought it from another guy, for whom I had made a personal Mod. :)

    That being said there is no update.
    At that time and for that model I just backported newer code into the best base for overclocking, so you can just ignore the revision name as it means nothing. :)

    8/9th gen on Z170 required changes to the CPU socket, so it was never offered as an official update. Also board power hardware and cooling is too limited, so with a non-Prema firmware it throttles so bad that you can as well just keep using an older CPU. In our internal testing with a Prema Mod, which does not throttle except for thermal, the system simply makes a hard shut down, whenever the CPU crossed hardware limits on stock 9900K clocks. I would have loved to but it would have been irresponsible to make something like that widely available.
     
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    I guess I never even looked at the back of the machine (doh!). I'll be liquid cooling this machine (possibly chilled water), so thermals shouldn't be an issue for whatever I throw in there. Power delivery is what it is, I'd rather be power limited but getting the most I can out of the platform. By socket modification you mean the masking of the LGA pads right? I'm no stranger to any of that. If you'd be willing to extend me an experimental version I'd gladly pay you for it. I'm fully aware of the risks and liability I'm taking on for this, as this was my complete intent when buying the machine. Thank you! :)

    So let me ask you this, as you mentioned you'd backpacked the newer code (I'm assuming microcode and EC firmware?), what would be the extent to the supported CPU's I could install assuming I was capable of performing the modification to the socket? 8700K? 9900K? If power delivery is really that big of an issue I'd probably shoot for a 9700K.

    Please let me know your thoughts, I'm more than capable and willing to be a guinea pig for this.
     
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  39. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Sorry, it's not a money question. If something can't live up to our quality standards it won't leave beta testing.

    There are plenty of threads on this forum offering alternatives for 'guinea pigs'...
     
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    Surely the 8700K would be supported then as your DM3 has the same Z170 chipset? Did you do a bios flash (as you linked) or just throw it in there? I'm quite curious to see what would happen if I just threw in an 8700K with my current BIOS but did the pin mod.
     
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    Getting the 8700k with your current BIOS won't make the laptop POST basically. Im running a 8700k in my P775DM3-G without any issues with stock heatsink
    I'm running that modded BIOS (the one from the link above flashed with a SPI Programmer) to accept the 8700k though. And intend on purchasing the 2080 rtx with the P775tm1 heatsink in the future instead of a new machine. Yes it's the same chipset. The z170
     
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    That cost is hard to justify for the 2080 over the 1080, I'd wait and see what happens.
     
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    That's what I'm doing right now. So far I've seen the kit from eurocom (heatsink + 2080) for roughly 1200€ on eBay but.. It's almost a new laptop and not worth it for the upgrade. So yes I'm waiting to see what 2020 brings
     
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    It's the same for me really. Intel might have to price drop the desktop chips when AMD launches so might pick one up if they go cheaper.
     
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    As far as I read online (no idea if it is true) but it seems that nVidia is having now sells on 2060,2070 and 2080 (and Ti). So they are re-releasing the new nvidias with lower price ranges.

    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-super-graphics-cards-msrp-leaked/

    I know it'd preliminary to speak about it but it seems AMD is raising their game already! We'll see but hopefully we'll be able to get the new super nvidias in our Clevos (The "super" term makes me laugh )
     
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    I was more meaning 7nm, all the current chips from amd and nvidia are boring from a mobile perspective.
     
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    I understood what you meant :)
     
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    5GHz stable (cache @4.2) on something finally with no throttles of any kind.
    -75mV undervolt approx 1.31V VID under load
    [​IMG]

    Should be able to get a few more points by OCing the memory which is still stock 2666mhz cl18. It did 2800mhz cl16 @ 1.3V in the P870DM/6700K iirc.

    And a few more from closing all that monitoring junk while it runs.
     
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