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@Donald@HIDevolution @Prema @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk @Donald question for you pros ... can the i7 8700k / i7 8086k work in a P870DM3 ? and if so what are temp differences to the i7 6700k, i have one with dual gtx 1080 sli

 

@Prema i have a P870DM3-G from EVO HID , would mine support the i7 8700k ? i have the prema bios of course as once you and fox and everyone else said this is the best well had to get it lol , lol , plan to upgrade to the p870tm1 before they are all gome here soon but i have 2 i7 8700k chips and a few i7 8086k chips on a shelf wanted to maybe replace my i7 6700k ?would temps be bad?

 

Did you speak to EVOC who provided your system and are responsible for providing you firmware?

 

The short answers yes and yes. Yes, it is capable. And, the temps will increase with extra cores/threads. Not necessarily by a huge amount, but it will run warmer.

Good advice. This is your best bet. I would call HIDevolution and talk with them, or PM Donald to find out what they can support. They might be able to work out a good deal for you on a barebones P870TM1 system to which you can transfer the major components from your DM3.

 

This is awesome. I wish I didn't bought my laptop where I did. No deals of any kind but.. Well... DAMN IT lol

It's so great to know companies actually care for clients and not only profit

 

Hi All,

I am looking to sell my P870DM2 as I have now moved to a much more powerful desktop. I understand I am unable to sell it on this site as I don't have 100 posts yet, but it would be great to get peoples opinions as to what its worth second-hand, as I have been out of the loop for a while. It has a single GTX 1080, i7-6700K @ 4.2 ghz (liquid metal, I have overclocked it to 4.4 ghz, but I prefer a quieter machine), 32 GB 2400 mhz RAM, Samsung 950 Pro 256 GB, 1080p none-Gsync screen, Vapor Chamber and two power supplies (330W). Its in good condition with one single dead pixel that you can barely see. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/price-check-forum.1062/

 

Around 1900$ or 1700€ I would say. Mby a bit more

 

You can also look at listings for those selling to get an idea.

 

So I just wanted to share my current P870DM3-G setup. Since bricking my DM2's motherboard, I've decided it was better to upgrade straight-up to DM3 barebones and fill it up since I get the mobo, but also the chassis, the good vapor chamber and the 4K screen, not that 100hz 1080p was that bad but hey, 4K is 4K and I'd never gamed on such. And you get the two 330 watt adapters, not bad.
So anyway, this is a vortex keyboard with 5 dwarf factory apollo keys sprinkled on it, since I hope we can all agree that the clevo keyboard sucks. This is how I fix it. I've been able to game at 4k with 1070 SLI transplanted into this from my DM2. Too bad one of the 1070s blew up very recently, I think it was some stupid incident where my clevo remained powered on on a trip in the backpack. This is how I'm carrying it around, with the keyboard. I recently bought a pair of Zenith IMR earphones to isolate myself from the noise when I'm trying to lookup stuff on it in a noisy environment. Thinking of buying a mobile DACAMP.
By the way, I'm currently thinking of buying a new 1070GTX, since I found it cheap 400 eur on ebay, new, to complete the sli back. I'd like 1080s or even RTX, but the latter especially are not worth the money imo. I'd also love a clevo with better cooling, keyboard, and the impressive 3900 ryzen. Thin bezels also.

 

Everything sucks compared to a proper mechanical keyboard.

 

After almost 3 years of enjoying the beast, for the first time today I smelt that smell of really hot plastic, opened her up, dusted like I do every couple months, closed her back up and launched PUBG, while monitoring temps, and smell, temps settled at 87°c for GPU with fn+1, and around 66°c for the CPU and that hot plastic smell was back, fans seem to be running smoothly, although CPU fan seems to be blowing quite a bit less air out than the GPU fans, noisy as ever though, do you guys have any idea's? I'm thinking about repasting tomorrow, should I check anything else while in there? I'll will probably remove fans to make sure no dust is blocking air flow, anyone ever have the P870DM 2 do this to them? I would greatly appreciate any help or pointers .

 

Might want to repaste and ensure the pads are in good condition.

 

Repasted with thermal grizzly kryonaut, and yeah the pads look like they might be on their last legs, I have no clue what I need to replace it with either, but neither seem to be the culprit it would appear the dc in jack and the converter box ac-200 melted a little, replacing the cable itself, but I was unable to find the laptop component anywhere in France, hopefully this will suffice, anyone know what part I need and more importantly were I can order it from ?

 

I would order a fresh ac-200 box from your reseller.

 

Ordered one, I do not see any damage on the laptop power jack side, as it is mostly metallic, so hopefully that will sort the problem out, do you have any recommendation for the pads required for a T shaped heatsink? what was in my laptop looked like it was some sort of putty on the vrm's and vram, although it looked more like dried clay at this point, I'm guessing that is no good at all
Might just be easier to use whatever sort of thermal putty was used in the first place; any idea of what may have been used?

 

Ok I'm gonna assume that putty is just some sort of factory thermal paste (guessing K5 pro https://www.amazon.fr/K5-PRO-thermi...aquettes/dp/B01E3WXWIW/ref=pd_sbs_201_1/261-6 or something very similar), so question is, is it really necessary? it was a real mess under the heatsink, I replaced the TIM on the die itself, and put the heatsink back on, now I'm thinking I should have removed it all and applied some thermal grizzly, or gelid instead, could it be they used that putty/paste to fill a gap between the gpu and the heatsink? I'm kind of poking around in the dark here, I don't know much about these things, if I were to go for pads what thickness should I get ?

 

I've only padded the vapor chamber.

 

Any idea if the P870DM2 supports the new AX200 cards? Either Intel or the Killer AX1650?

 

Good question, not sure if they require the chipset side of things from the latest generation.

Intel don't mention it in their product briefs.

 

From what I understand, at least with the 9260AC vs 9560AC cards, the "problem" might be depending on the interface type. The 9560AC is a CNVio which I believe requires CPU-level support, whereas the 9260AC is PCIe, which is independent of the CPU and uses the PCIe bus instead.

I can't find much info on the AX200, or if there are different versions available either. Similarly, I'm wondering if something like a Coffee Lake on a modded P870DM2/3 would support it. It could be a limitation of the Z170?

EDIT: Looking up the AX200 card on Intel Ark, it seems like it's PCIe so I want to believe it should work on the P870 since it's not tied to a feature on the CPU.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/189347/intel-wi-fi-6-ax200.html

 

Yes, there is no lock out, so long as it's standard PCI-E you are good.

 

Update on the Intel AX200 card: it works out of the box on Windows 10 and Linux. It's as plug-and-play as they come and performance is great.

 

Which router do you have? Buying a router that supports the norm ax is a plus and you'll enjoy it more

 

TP-Link AX6000. My bottleneck at this point is my connection at home (200Mbps) and the drives on my home server so I haven't really maxed the AX capabilities on this card, but I do have another computer with an AX card that I'll run iperf just for benchmark purposes.

 

Good news, might be tempted at some point myself.

 

Me too but I need a router as well. Have a Asus RT-AC68U currently

 

Hello everyone,

I am new to Notebook review. I have just bought a second hand P870DM3-G with an i7 7700k and a single gtx 1080. Not received it yet, but I already have some questions I hope you can answer to.
I have just noticed that the notebook I have bought has a z270 chipset and not a z170 one according to the specification posted by the seller. Does it change anything in terms of any potential upgreadability I might consider in the future?
Second question regards the Bios. I asked the seller if he could reach out the company that assembled the notebook to know if they could provide a Prema Bios (read pretty much everywhere that it is a must-have for an overclockable processor with heating tendencies like the 7700k). The seller told me that he has personally unlocked all the Bios features. I have no idea if that sounds likely or not. Maybe he just had it installed from factory and is just taking credit?

Disclaimer: I am a noob, some questions may be silly.

 

If it has Z270 its a P870KM. DM3 is Z170. Not really much difference at all.

Ask where the unit is from. If they bought it from a Prema partner, good, contact Prema. Eurocom or self unlocked bios - not so good. The BIOS is not really what matters anyway, you would overwrite it with the custom BIOS to upgrade to 8th or 9th gen CPUs - but for full performance you need the EC firmware that comes with Premamod. Though, a high clocked 6 core runs into heat issues on the stock heatsink, let alone the 8 core. If you're not going to get into delid, liquid metal, or heatsink mods a CPU upgrade isn't worthwhile IMO.

 

Thanks for the quick answer bennyg. So the notebook comes from NovaCustom. Dutch company selling Clevo in Europe. I even visited their website but didn't realize I was directly buying from them on Ebay. So far great communication with them.
As for the chipset I have been told to check it as I receive the laptop as it had previously sent to Clevo and they changed both mobo and gpu. Maybe they put a z270 on it, worst case scenario they made a typo in the specifications and I'll get a z170, not much difference as you said, so it's OK anyway.

Edit: wrt delidding and liquid metal, I am considering it. Just waiting to see how it currently manages the heat, but if in the future I will consider a six core upgrade I will absolutely delid and apply liquid metal.

 

Pretty much snap on that, my 200Mb connection is not limited by AC at the moment however.

 

I'm limited too to my connection but for games, it makes a lot of difference to play in a AC connection other than wireless N
we'll see how the future goes and if i can get a AX router when they get cheaper

 

Will a NVME drive (2280) that has a heatsink fit in my P870DM3-G?

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/adata/...9Eg&siteID=lw9MynSeamY-w0Fv4zkSPXguhopLGlX9Eg

 

Likely not if the heatsink is tall at all. Take it off and use a thermal pad.

 

It should. I have an SX6000 with the heatsink in my DM2 and fits with no issues. It's only those big EKWB or heatsinks found in the PCIe4.0 SSDs that would not fit. Otherwise the ones with (relatively) thin pads and heatsinks are fine.

 

You'll get better results with a pad.

 

Hello, I’m looking for plastic parts of the case for this laptop, maybe someone has for sale ?

 

There is a buy/sell section, you're most likely to find something there.

 

Or your reseller.

 

PM me with the parts that you need and I will get you a quote.

 

Indeed, it's a good way to dissipate some of the heat into the motherboard. Even if the controller might be facing the wrong side, you still benefit from it.

 

Plus it can still get direct air flow that way.

 

In the p870 at least, you have a fan that's manages to circulate the air underneath the keyboard. And you can even mount an nvme drive right on top of it.

 

But if I recall it's labeled SSD2, not sure if it matters whether you run your nvme drive in there or SSD1 slot.

 

They all benefit from the flow that fan creates.

 

Yes, but the nvme slot labeled SSD2 is directly over the fan. I wasn't sure if it mattered if the primary drive was installed there or SSD1 slot.

 

No, not really unless it's a super hot drive you want to hammer all day long.

 

I think it will obstruct more airflow having it there, since it does a good job circulating air underneath the keyboard. And it doesn't get hot with a couple thermal pads between the drive and the motherboard.

 

The fan is mainly drawing fro. The outside and that drive is the hottest thing under the keyboard usually.

 

Yes, it does create underpresseure and you can actually feel air being sucked under the keyboard.