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Would be ok to go with the 1070 if that works. Though it doesn't have much ring that the 1080 has.

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Well, at this point I would be on the lookout for 1070 single card benchmarks. If they are not much better than your current 980, then I would wait it out or try to off what I had now and get into the new platform. "If I were you"
The reason I say this is because That is what I'm doing now, but from the P570WM3 to this one....

 

We all have skeletons in our closets. As I already admitted, I play Mortal Kombat on PC with an XBOX controller. But, only when nobody is looking. Everything else (just about) is kb+m.

 

It's not going to be a simple job to upgrade the older models no. The new cards required some changes which will throw off heatsink mounts etc.

I'm sure something can be figured out however.

 

Will wait till someone does a test to make sure everything is all hunky dory!

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Stock 1070 are about 25/30% faster than 980 in bench. Probably not worth the hassle/$. Look after results in games than just benchmarks.

 

Heh single 1070 is not looking that much better than the 980 DT to be honest...
Although I would definitely suggest it to a 980M user.

 

I'm not even going to screw with it. My 200W 980 GPU does everything it needs to do for everything except benching. It tears up all games like nobody's business. I've got heat sinks for 980M SLI and once I replace my 980M that got broken, I will be running that instead of the 200W 980. (980M SLI is more powerful.) I'm probably going to buy a Razer Core for my TB3 port, use full-sized desktop GPUs for benching and save money for building an open-air overclocking station. I should be able to get by just fine with what I've already got for laptops for at least 3 or 4 years using that approach. Once I have an open-air overclocking station built, I can just replace my expensive high performance notebooks with some cheap pile of crap like a Chromebook or Android tablet.

 

Not sure if anyone noticed but the 1070 essentially is a 980 just manufactured in a smaller process node.
It'll clock a bit higher due to lower temps/voltage, but essentially clock for clock results are virtually the same.

 

Shame really. Maybe hold out till cannon Lake and 1180?

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Yeah.., as I said in previous post. Not worth it.

 

I can't believe how old my laptop already is! I forget I got it in early 2015, meaning a year and a half. No wonder the upgrade itch is there... But I think you are right, a desktop build is in the works and I should save for Zen our a skylake-X build... That and Volta would probably be the way to go...

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The 1080 has a pretty big lead it's true. The 1070 is still a step up due to the clocks it can reach and improved memory bandwidth efficiency.

 

Yeah, I would not even entertain the notion of a "1070 upgrade" at this point. Not on a machine with a 200W 980 or 980M SLI. It's nice that it's similar to 980 SLI, but the cost of purchasing the parts is going to be so asinine high that it makes no sense whatsoever. We complained that upgrading from 780M SLI to 980M SLI was $1400. By the time you buy the GPU and heat sink(s) it's likely to be almost as much for just one 1070, which just ain't good enough.

 

Yeah, I would not upgrade if I had 980M SLI to a single 1070. Not going to happen. Nor a 980N 200W card either. I'm upgrading because of a post I made a long time ago about me waiting on 1080's (Trying to be funny at the time) and I think we were at 680M's at that time.

 

Well, that actually is funny!

 

It was killing me with all the folks talking about waiting for the next gen to buy and when it landed they were saying next gen again...On and on....

 

To be fair, despite your experiences with the 4K, I use my 4K panel daily for editing and it's one of, if not the best, 4K panel on a laptop I've seen to date.

I've had similar daunting experiences on the 1080p panel like you've had on the 4K, which I don't quite understand the beating you're giving it

Even for gaming, which I do as well on the 4K display, it handles the games I play (FPS) pretty well, despite the ~25ms...granted my fps is around 150fps.

With ms aside, the options available of a (120Hz, 5ms w/ no Gsync) or a (4K w/ GSync) boils purely down to personal preference, but the 4K panel is not beneath the 1080p panel.

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Maybe i should just buy an ultra wide monitor?

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You won't regret it(well maybe the price). I'm using the Acer x34 and it's my favorite monitor so far.

 

Might go 29 inch for sub-1000 bucks.

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I will also add that the 1440p resolution with ultra wide has made a big difference in my productivity.

But back on topic: is there a difference between the AC-100 vs AC-200 power converters?

 

Crossover 324K 32" 4K 450USD on ebay

 

Aint it like that every year?

I can just sit here and chuckle...

 

I meant under 1000 Australian bucks.

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Couple of Questions:

-Never having dealt with a Sager/Clevo pc before is it easy to break down, and put back together? Is it as easy as the AW18? I do like to explore.
-Is it better just to jump in whole hog and get the dual 1080s? Or buy one, and get one later.
-Is a M.2 ssd good for the OS? If so, what's the ideal size to get?


I'm torn between Origin PC, and Xotic PC anyone thoughts on either?

Thanks

 

The current P870DM-G only has 10 screws to get to everything. The aw17 I had previously had about 24 screws to get to everything.

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Its very easy to break down. I would not call the AW18 easy by no means as you must split the shell and it never goes back together exactly the same way.

I would prob shy away from the store with the X

 

Dang I wished a 1440p gsync option was available, I wouldn't hesitate.

BTW I use a Predator X34 also and it just doesn't get any better with 21x9 gsync when I am not using the Oculus rift.

 

Yep, and as I said it's only 10 screws to get full access to all the ram and drives you need.

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Sorry I think we were replying at the same time.

 

New 1080 sli laptop should be here by saturday, real excited for some ultra 120 fps gameplay!!! shoutout to guys at hidevolution for great customer service so far

 

I'm with you on that. I'd be happy with a 1440p + Gsync as well.

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Clear this up for me. Are these internal 17.3" 120Hz screens Clevo and MSI have, also G-Sync enabled?

 

I have been curious about this for a while as to why you haven't gone this route sooner?

It's clear that benching is your primary objective, therefore, a monsterous of a desktop would be the way to go over a DTR...

Although, a DTR is still in a difference class and being able to achieve 1:1 performance in a DTR is more impressive than a stationary desktop, at least in my books. However, the point is a DTR is so impractical for those not needing the portability, when you can build an insane desktop for the price of a DTR.

The price to pay for portability sucks, but I'm glad that it's there. If I didn't travel as frequent as I do, a DTR wouldn't even be on my radar....desktop all the way.

Then again...how about that rolling desktop in a suit case eh? Get all the cooling that you want. Upgrade the wheels, wheel bearings and change out the grip handle for more OC. There's a zipper mod too that automatically unlocks the BIOS.

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With Clevo, only the 4k panel is gsync atm + what @bloodhawk said.

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They are awaiting certification.

 

Actually the MSI ones are G-sync @ 120hz, several reviewers that went to London mentioned using them @ 120 with G-sync limiting max frame rate.

Asus is also supposed to offer a 120hz G-sync model in their various categories.

I would imagine Clevo will have 120 hz G-sync/non-G-sync in this Pascal generation, as 1080 @ 60hz non-Gsync and 75hz G-sync in the previous Maxwell lineup.

It may take a while for these 120hz G-sync panels to filter their way everywhere, and into vendor models on offer.

Carefully read the product info, and the box / contents inventory index to make sure you are getting what you want/expect.

 

I ordered a new taptop:
Ordered an EVOC P870DM3 from HIDevolution

 

Oops I overlooked the MSI part...

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Post certification, it will be enabled?

 

I know this isn't for me, but wanted to say something to it....
Benching both platforms is very expensive and time consuming. Most usually only choose one or the other and then they usually hate on the other as well. LOL. I'n my case I love to do both. But what really makes this work is a great base setup that you can run with for a few years or at least one year. And in this case he was only able to run 2 and a half months. Not really enough time to build up capital and time to start the purchase cycle of desktop parts. As we all know...doing both is not a cheap hobby and I can tell you this, Not all laptops out cost a high end desktop setup. 6950X/RVE/4 Titan p's/2 1600W Titanium PSU's/64 GB 4000 mhz Ram/1 SM961/ and other odds and ends is pushing past 10 grand. Of course there will be a lot of finagling with these parts, but you get the idea....

So it will be a while before his (Or our) type of setup is even up and running for some serious numbers...

That's why He hasn't done it yet....Speculation of course.

 

you 4x txp useless, only 2way sli now

 

I'm sure there was a good reason for it. Indeed, the hobby is quite costly Very few people will understand the joy of OC'ing and the amount of adrenaline it can bring like a playing a game.

It's our form of 1/4 drag racing.



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Useless if
1: You decide to keep it
2: You decide to keep it and try to game with it.
3: Can't afford it
4: Can't resale it
Benching for points is a very different breed of folks vs your normal guy or gal. So If you don't get that part then you wouldn't understand I'm afraid....

 

yeap.

 

From Australia with love. I really hope it's not Metabox screwing with us regarding the 4K G-Sync 120Hz. And the price is in AUD btw

 

Can anyone confirm for me just a tiny thing? XD

IS DSR, the super resolution thingy with 4k rendering on FHD screens able to render the entire display, or just games and openGL apps? I need to know this, I mean, am I able to render the desktop space at 4K but show on a FHD screen, or it's just... a game thingy?

 

That would be the greatest prank ever...

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Things that make you go.... hummmmmmmmmm..... Is it real or is it fake.
That was a lot of extra editing to get that to show up on their website....