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    *** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

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    6 k jump in graphics score!! WTF!!!!???
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    This is also a stock run with less throttle: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9788207

    See what I meant when I said that cards carrying the same name will see a huge difference just depending on 'how Throttle 3.0 feels today'...
     
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    This looks right for sure! I know 1080 SLI OC should definitely run at 40k+, not 27k. 27k is single card territory.
     
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    bsch3r Notebook Evangelist

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    Its in fact the same notebook . I bought exactly this unit from CEG. Before they sent it out they made some own tests. I might add that my driver settings are not optimized for benchmarking, maybe thats the reason for the different scores.

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G928F mit Tapatalk
     
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    STAPH PLZ STAPH.

    On a serious note, do you think with the whole vBIOS being encrypted BS, you will be able to work out a mod ?
     
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    bsch3r Notebook Evangelist

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    Are you talking desktop cards?

    Oh I forgot, desktop and mobile are the same now

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G928F mit Tapatalk
     
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    Either card, basically he meant, that the Graphics score is low for 2 x 1080's.
    The one Prema posted has the graphics score @ 40k+
     
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    I do not think that 6700K is a hit or miss!! Badly executed paste job, a not so good heatsink or maybe the first batch of 6700K chips was not top class at the first delivery by Intel. These expencive SL chips for use in laptops is more a waste of money. Perhaps a good choice for your desktop if you want OC heavy with other than air, but not for laptops. But thats me :cool: But I would of course tried one in my system, if I don't needed to pay :D
     
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    I will try tomorrow to get to 40k+. As I said, its my unit CEG did the tests with

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G928F mit Tapatalk
     
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    I know! :)

    Disable g-sync, take the system outside, put the FANs on full blast, wait for a few minutes, then re-run the bench...
    Stock vBIOS throttles at ridiculously low temps...
     
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    LOL!

    Oh I seen that score before. Told them I was coming for those scores later... :D

    Check your email. :)
     
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    loud 12v fans... thats what i was affraid of! p870dm was such a quite machine!
     
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    Depending on temps heat can flow the other way but I know what you mean.

    The vapor chamber will even out temperatures yes.
     
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    I have not forgotten Dell's massive crippling of fan profile and slow fans in latest NORMAL AW laptops. And Dell engineers would not create a manual fan control either to fix the MESS. Thanks god we could use HWINFO... If not, would these AW machines only be used for email / web browsing!!
     
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    After the meeting I had today, this power stuff is only going to get worse over time....
     
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    Are they 12V?
     
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    Old ones are 5V AFAIK. 3200rpm.
     
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    Do they have to be 12v anyway?

    The fans are abysmal on this machine, a replacement will be necessary.

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G928F mit Tapatalk
     
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    I removed everything :D. This images below is my fans. 6 months without cleaning. Almost NO dust... I use self-made filter for my mod U3. And Temp is good :cool:
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    View attachment 137967
     
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    yes
     
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    imo I'd rather have loud fans, than quite fans that limit performance. I've been running 40db on my alcohol cooled desktop for over 2 years, so I'm quite acclimated to the sounds.
     
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    oh, bad news for me. zm models were the best. dm fans were noiser and now this... ADDA fan brand is a no go it seems
     
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    Turn off G-sync, change resolution to 1920x1080, and make sure your Nvidia 3d settings are correct - disable DSR => 1:1, no vsync, disable any other frame rate limiters. :)
     
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    I disagree. I feel the zm fans are too weak... Give me a bit more noise and more blowing power!!!

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    upload_2016-8-19_18-49-37.png
     
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    if it was'nt for 4790k... my p771zm was holding 65-68C on the 980m stock with very little noise.

    btw, noise is not always means "power". it's just that ADDA makes really bad fans from my experience
     
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    I get that. But I also would prefer to feel more blowing out of the back when on max fans and would readily sacrifice more noise to accomplish a higher cfm with more static pressure! I have similar 980m temps and the same machine (p770zm).

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    We seem to have two answers....so which one is correct?
     
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    @Papusan & @Mr. Fox Hey guys, don't drop me as a friend. :D
    Asus G752VS | 6820HK | 32GB | 2400Mhz | 17.3 G-Sync | 1070N | 256 NVMe | 1 TB HD | DVDRW | AC Wifi
     
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    I'll be interested to see what you do with it John.
     
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    Added to ignore list. 1070?? Like ... wat??
     
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    if you are asking about gt72 fans - they are 12v
     
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    LOL why the ASUS though?
     
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    No of corse bro we love you, but I can't let this stand :D I directed a little on it, so that your new Nice UGLY signature becomes more accurate and palatable :p
     
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    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    can you look how much A these fans use?
     
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    Yes, I'm kind of curious at this point! Something to do while I wait for my Sager NP9873

    Ah man, but I thought we were buddies/pals/Homies/friends/comrades....Bro's.... :D

    Ah, that makes sense. I was thinking about the ones from the P870DMG.

    It will all makes sense soon. :)

    I'll have to hold on fixing it because If I beat just one 6700k.... (Not mine of course) I win! Let me go find a noob with no over clocking skills what so ever and use that as an example.
     
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    Was that meeting with JJ? ;)
     
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    Would need more of a clue than JJ
     
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    Lmfao! That is cheating! At least take on a moderate 6700k OC, not a noob! If you go into a freezer, I'm sure you could get that done...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    I'll never drop you as a friend. That's forever, through thick and thin. But, we might need to have an intervention to get you back on track, LOL. :vbbiggrin:
     
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    That's what she said :p

    But i have a feeling he met up with JJ and all . ;D
     
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    I don't know who JJ is. I must have missed something elsewhere in the thread. I'm not connecting the dots.
     
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    This is the only JJ that I know of...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Come on i figured you high rollers might have met him or know him. Heck i have met him quite a few years back in India, over an OC meet.

    https://twitter.com/asustechmktjj

    Great guy!
     
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    But...But....I need to get an advantage some how...so shhhhhh. Let me cheat in peace! :D
    I'm already knowing. And when they had talked about Microsoft being there, I said I know someone who would really like to talk to them. :D

    Oh no, Did not meet with that person. That is actually the first time I heard of him actually.
     
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    Aww man, back to making traitor posters then.
     
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