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Aside from the LG vs AUO panel differences...
Something else to consider is the controller. MSI vs Clevo with the same panel might act different. For example there have been different brand desktop monitors with the same panel that have tested differently and also visibly perform different.

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Thanks Mr. Fox! This is exactly what I was looking for. Awesome...

 

Check that thread out, and then the videos Mr. Fox has on his YouTube channel. If you need further help after that, let me know I have some videos, but not as good theirs.

 

Could you try CB R11,5/R15 + Wprime 1024M (both versions) with stock clockspeed + max fans and monitoring maximum temperature with Hwinfo in those benchmarks? Post results with images.
For your testing comparison(Stock 6700K in Clevo P870DM-G with CBR11.5) This is a rarity from me. But suits your testing



Afterwards run the same test again, only with increased clock speed. From 4.4 to 4.7 GHz. No need for Prema bios for this testing purposes. DM3 should handles [email protected] GHz without sweating. If not... Heat Sink (design?) flaw, uneven - warped heatsink or badly executed paste job. Or both!
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jbeswno4a4mdiy6/wPrime.exe
http://www.putme.net/wPrime210.zip
http://downloads.guru3d.com/CineBENCH-11.5-download-2475.html#download
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/cinebench-15-download.html

Test also 3DM11 and 3DM Sky Diver. Both stock and overclocked. Tanks

 

Stock BIOS only allows you to change the date.

Prema BIOS, is a whole new world of customization. See:



You can get your laptop from HIDEvolution

Also see these threads about them:
HIDevolution - The Best Company I ever dealt with

Experience with HIDevolution - EVOC P750DM-G

Amazing Experience dealing with HIDEvolution

HIDevolution's Warranty!


If you had more posts on the forum and emailed them your user ID, they will also give you a small discount but please step it up with the posts Real posts I mean not just saying thanks or whatnot

 

Thanks man. I checked out both of Mr. Fox's video and think I got a good feel for the venture. Gonna give it a go in a week or so when the dm3 comes in. Gonna take my time with it and do it right!

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i am crying on the inside!

 

Oh I am well aware of the D900C, I just meant more about how 10 years ago someone would seem crazy if they said there would be desktop GPUs in a laptop, and I meant the same about desktop CPUs in a laptop, but more like 11-12+ years for that.

My first laptop was a DTR, even though it was all soldered-on BGA stuff at the time, lol. I love DTRs as well.

 

i guess external gpu cases aren't out yet and would they even work with the P870DM-G?

 

Lol

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The core works. @bloodhawk , any news on your testing?

 

I'm thinking... As long as we have access to these settings...We should have a pretty good shot at making it work.

 

@Meaker@Sager Do you know if there's any particular reason for Sager not to include 4K display option for P870DM2?

 

The first tests with the latest firmware has been good on other models as tested by linus for the core.

@Red Line likely due to the cost they decided not to get the 4k display chassis for the less expensive devices in case they sat on the shelf. If people are interested then let me know and we might be able to sort something out if there are a few people interested.

 

Long time lurker, first time poster here, finally have a reason to make an account. I've made the decision to buy/build a high-end Clevo, but I can't afford to spring for the P870DM3 right now. I was hoping to buy a P870DM3 barebones and put a single 1080 in it (and overclock the s*** out of it) possibly upgrading it to a SLI setup later down the line. However, the only barebones seller I've found (RJTech) doesn't allow you to get a setup without a GPU in the MXM slot. Any suggestions? I really don't want to buy a product I won't be able to upgrade. Any suggestions?

P.S. I'm not sure if this is where I should ask this question, as I'm technically not an owner (even though this page had 200 pages of speculation when the laptops released). If that is the case, I'd appreciate advice as to where else I should post my question.
Edit: Also, I've read that the Aorus X7 (DT) V6 has a 1440p120 panel. Is there any way I can make that happen with the P870DM3? (And if so, where'd I buy that panel?)

 

I have seen the aorus with the 1440p 120hz screen in person last week, it is gorgeous! Would be nice in the dm3 with sli.

 

Do you have more info? Please post details

Was it the 1070 or 1080, assuming it's a 17", how noisy and hot was it??

 

Still waiting on the 1080 Strix.

 

Yeap, we already have 99% of those in the @Prema BIOS.

 

What tests need to be done? I have three Strix 1080 OC cards right now.

 

Mostly bandwidth, and over heads. And if having a custom firmware/BIOS helps. I can buy the 1080 Strix right now off of amazon, which isn't that big an issue. The main issue is the Razer Core, its not mine and my friend lives in SF so he will bring it over once he gets the 1080.
I tried sourcing a Core for myself for a reasonable price, but its just seems impossible at the moment.

 

I have two in sli and a third was setup as physix but have since removed the third. I'll have a test bench finished here soon with a x99 test setup so it won't interfere with my main desktop rig. I'll be glad to run any specific test your guys want and try some specific bios's as well. The sli machine is going custom copper tube build I'm doing for maximum PC magazine soon.

 

Unfortunately, at least in the US, no one is selling the DM3 with a single 1080. Currently, it's only 1080 SLI. If you are looking for a true barebones DM3 (meaning no CPU/GPU, no nothing), you're not likely going to find one.

As for using the Aorus X7 panel, I wouldn't think you could. At this point, the DM3 only supports the 1080p 120hz (non-G-Sync) or 4K 60hz G-Sync panels. I know you will need different cables for the panel.

Perhaps someone else can answer the panel question better than me.

 

Ok guys, I need someone to test this....It seems Asus did something pretty damn nice!
The power button is also the cmos/bios reset switch.

When you hold the button down for 6 seconds it sets up the bios to be reset. You push it again and the power light will turn on and off 2 times and then on the third light the computer boots up and the bios has been reset.....Now as to how deep it will reset... I have no clue...

Can some one give this a try with their machine? Thanks.

Edit: Did not work on the P570WM3

 

Does not work on P870DM-G. I think that is an ASUS-only feature.

 

What about the "Fn + d + power button load BIOS defaults" that we have on P750DM and P870DM? Is that something like ASUS?
At work now so I can not test.

 

Asus has done a fenaminal job adding recovery features on their motherboards and gpu's. Nice to see a reser/recovery being built into their laptops now.

 

I have been reading these threads for a year now and am ready to make a purchase. I can't afford spending 4K right now. Still torn between the 775DM3 and the 870DM2. The only advantage I see with 870 is the flexibility of adding another card in a year or two. There is only a $150 difference between the 775 and a 870 with single 1080. Any suggestions?


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Which reseller gives you this option?
If anything, the P8 is supposed to have better cooling, but after recent reviews I'm not sure about that.
The P7 can only take a single 1080 but is slightly smaller. I would advise against a 4K panel anyway, to me it's worthless in a 17.3" screen.

 

HIDevolution


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Also, I like the 4K screen option - personal preference. Even on an iPad, notice the difference in quality between the old non retina v/s retina.


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I ordered the DM2 from HIDEvolution and asked if it is possible to use DM3 heatsink instead of the t-shaped one. No reply yet, but I'm hoping.

 

When it comes down to my DM3 purchase, HIDevolution will be the place. However, I asked them that very question and they won't do it. From my understanding, they order the Clevo P870DM3 with the 1080 SLI already installed. So they won't rip out a DM3 heatsink to put in your DM2 or rather, they won't take out one of the 1080's from a DM3.

Your best bet is to wait like most of us are doing. Eventually they will offer the DM3 with a single 1080; even when they do, I am still getting the DM3 with the 1080 SLI. The only thing that is holding back my purchase is the panel, I want G-Sync on the 1080p 120hz display.

Now if HIDevolution does grant you request, please let us know.

 

Sweet! Keep us posted. I want to know if its possible to run the system with the card in the slot to the right. I remember reading something about there no longer being Slave and Master slots.
Main reason for this question would be the fact that the the slot on the left hast 2 Heat pipes dedicated to it, and the one on the right has 3.

 

Are you saying you have 3 Cores, or 3 1080 Strix's?

 

Delete pls

 

Three Strix 1080 OC cards running on a 6950x. Actually two now installed. I can install the third as physix again if needed.

 

Cooling system on the P870 is a massive advantage. Stay away from unified heat sink crap and you'll be glad you did.

 

http://www.ocaholic.co.uk/modules/smartsection/item.php?page=0&itemid=4009

They upped the clocks to 4.2 base and 4.5 turbo ( single ) and maybe it has a slight IPC bump too

You may be able to clock the 7700K to 5.0ghz after delidding in a laptop or maybe 5.1+ on a desktop on water!

liquid metal of course

GX800/GT83 and the others don't have a 7820HK to upgrade to

 

Wife just ordered my DM2 with 1070 SLI from HIDEvolution, I get back from deployment next week so i will hopefully be able to do a review for you guys to compare against the DM3 and its 1080 SLI soon there after.

 

What a wife! I'd marry her!

I think I'm gonna order too the D3

 

received the p870dm3 today, but can't seem to get windows 7 to work. fresh install and there's no drivers, can't use internet, clevo drivers only support windows 10... does anyone here know how to fix these driver issues on the clevos?

 

Go to the manufacturer of each part, that's probably your beat bet.

 

system also doesn't recognize a samsung 850 ssd.

 

When you say don't recognise the 850 pro what exactly are you looking at?

 

I installed a 850 pro into the hard drive bay, and tried to install windows 7 on it, but it doesn't even show up on the BIOS, so I had to install it into the 1tb hard drive.

EDIT: yeah I'm done trying to get windows 7 to work on this machine. 9 hours and I can't get any drivers other than ethernet to work. I guess I'll just upgrade to windows 10 and use their included drivers.

 

Your signature says 950 Pro... if that's the case it's NVMe and you have to load the Intel Raid drivers at the installation.

 

You can grab the W7 drivers from Sagers NP9870-S support page. Its the same Ethernet adapter. And in order to get W7 installed on the SSD, it might not be as simple. You will manually need to partition it. Thank UEFI for that.
There are workaround, but none of them are simple enough. Check the threads by @Phoenix , he has a really nice guide on how to do it.

 

When I checked to configure the DM3 from HIDEvo they had the Win7 option pre-installed, why don't you just call em up and try to get it sorted, Also Raid is not supported in Win7 with Stock sBIOS atm...

IRC the Win7 with NVMe is super messy, here are old posts ( 1 & 2) from Mr.Fox with his 870DM geting to work with W7, you'll need to remove all the drives and install the Win boot manager soley onto the NVMe and then Install another OS by removing this W7 drive plus need to enable some CSM and UEFI options from sBIOS, that was with Prema mod, Wait a few days to ironout all kinks and you'll have a real PC with Prema magic infused since you got it from hidevo...btw congos on that beast !

NVMe doesn't play well with Win7 that's unfortunate.

 

I'll keep looking for such a reseller outside the US then. Also, is there any difference between the DM2 and DM3 other than the heatsink (which I hope I'll be able to replace) and the possible GPU configurations (no 1080 SLI on the DM2 unless heatsink replaced)? One last question, if I start with a single 1080 G-Sync laptop and later upgrade it to SLI, will I still be able to use G-Sync?