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After reading all reviews I could find, seems that corsair neutron xti is the best cheaper SSD, it sports 15nm MLC and should yield best in time. It is a 2.5" SSD SATAIII

I also wend with a WD Black 1TB HDD. Had to chose between this, HGST and WD blue SSHD, but WD black should yield the best performance from this little list. Also, I'll be using it as scratch disk, so performance before everything else for this drive.

As for other specs, I'm going with
Clevo P775
32GB of hyperX Impact DDR4 w 2133 CL13 specs (Dual 16GB channel)
6700K CPU
GTX 1080
And I'm still pondering on whether to get 4K display or FHD display and if to get that killer module, but I think that windows 10 + intel module should make a better pair!

If anyone can give me some nice words on the display choice, but so far I think that for 400 I might as well get the LG FHD panel and either get the Dell 25" 100% adobeRGB or just upgrade down the line..

 

The best wireless module can depend on your router, Intel tends to be a little more stable for me on my Asus. FHD with a single 1080 should keep going for a LONG time.

 

Just out of curiosity what is the difference between the p870dm2 with 1080 and 6700k and the p7750dm3 with 1080 and 6700k.
They both can have identical hardware specs. Or am I missing something

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It has shared GPU/CPU heatsink and isn't able to do SLI. There's probably other differences too. But those are the biggies

 

The P870DM2 is a bigger chassis. The single 1080 gets two fans and many heat pipes to itself in the P870DM2. You will get better temps and frequencies in the P870DM2.

 

Thanks for responding to my question.
So the cooling for the p870dm2 is same as p870dm. ? . So if one was to buy p870dm2 with single 1080 and wanted to add another 1080 down the road one would have to source the cooling setup for the p870dm3 to make it work right.?
Or is it even possible to make the p870dm2 sli down the road.?
There's no videos or reviews or inside pictures of p870dm2 that I can find other than p870dm wich I assume is somewhat the same setup.?
Thanks.

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The motherboards and cards are the same yes, so you could take a P870DM2 with a single 1080 and put in another 1080, get the P870DM3 heatsink assembly and SLI cable. It also needs the dual PSU adaptor and a 2nd 330W power brick.

 

I received the fan of the MSI GT72 and would like to try it in the DM3. The fan connector on the Motherboard of the DM3 fits, but I suspect the layout of the 3 pins may be different between msi and clevo.

So pls help me out here: does there exist a service manual for the DM3 already? Does anyone know the pin layout of the Clevo mainboard adapter?

By the way, the MSI fan does not physically fit in the dm3 (too big), so I will have to do some hardmodding ;-). I still hate those ADDA fans in the DM3.

 

Very interesting, even if I can't do it, but excited to see your experiment result. I'm always saying that we have special members in our forum.
Let us show the manufacturing companies that we can fix some of their problems or weaknesses, they can consult us to give them some advice, if they want to listen.

Good example we have @Prema , he is doing the BIOS modes to enhance their machines performance, this is in the BIOS side. So let us show them more good examples in design, cooling, hardware selection, drivers, overclocking, upgrading, and testing, etc...

We have @Prema partners, so why not having @Mr. Fox partners , and so on...

 

Drop me a mail...

 

Yes, we have the Samsung SM961 512GB M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3200 MB/s Read-1700 MB/s Write and Samsung SM961 1TB M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3200 MB/s Read-1800 MB/s Write in stock.

The 2.5" HDD/SSD bays are accessible without removing the heatsinks.

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Dear Mr. Donald, please tell me that I'm the first one who bought it from you , good choice for speed seekers.

 

Well, someone just got a GT83VR with 1070 SLI and his fans are loud at a max RPM of 5k

 

Yes, it will be the same screen that Eurocom will offer, but we are not so sure it is the AUO B173HAN01.3 as advertised on the Eurocom site. We are waiting for confirmation on exactly what panel will be used.

 

We will have to wait to see exactly which panel it is before making comments on its performance.

 

Whatever that QHD screen is, i am sure it will be priced similar to the 4K g-sync screen (~$300-$350).
Considering this, i feel the best option right now is to get the P870DM2/3 with he most vanilla screen the suppliers are offering and buy a separate g-sync/FHD/QHD/4k monitor as per your liking.

 

We don't have pricing yet, but what we do know is that these screens will be in very short supply at the beginning. Therefore if you want to get in line early, just order it with the Full HD (1920x1080) and in the "...special requests" box put "Hold for 3K screen" as you check out. We won't charge your credit card until you have approved the upgrade price, and it is ready to go into Production. If you use PayPal, we will await your approval of the upgrade price, and then invoice you for the difference (if you disapprove the upgrade price, we will refund your PayPal payment). If you want to use one of the 2.5% cash discount payment methods, we will reach out to you once pricing is known, and if acceptable, we will then confirm your order and email payment instructions.

 

I would...except you are not. We have been shipping them for a few weeks now.

 

Sounds like a great plan you'll have it as soon as I get back from lunch

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If you go this route, just be sure what you buy now has the Pascal card(s) that support G-Sync...unfortunately, they come in two flavors now.

 

Thanks! Please select Donald S as you checkout and I will be sure to get you at the front of the line.

 

Hehe...you can count on the fact that what is advertised is always the fastest possible. White to black, and colors, will be slower, but for comparison, starting with the fastest response time will almost always correlate throughout the spectrum.

 

Wait... i thought the external G-sync monitors will work regardless of what flavor you get because the chip is in the monitor itself.
Am i wrong?

 

Yes, the GPU has to support G-Sync whether you are using the laptop screen or an external monitor.

 

Well this makes it confusing because as per my understanding external monitors shouldwork.
This is one of the posts from @Prema .
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...displays-gorgeous.795452/page-6#post-10332280

here is another one.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...oenix-2-is-here.794530/page-194#post-10318760

Can you please check it and confirm.

 

Thank you for your purchase!
Your order # is: XXXXXXX

Order completed, I did put your name on it and the note to please hold for 1440p screen and gsync gpus.
P870DM3

Thanks again!

 

I am not sure if it is a good idea to post your order no in a public forum?

 

ya I thought about that, updated. Thanks for looking out.

 

With the help of @Prema I got the MSI fan to work in the DM3. I had to change the pin layout of the MSI fan like Prema advised me.

The msi fan is a little bigger, so at the moment I just could try it out outside the case. HWinfo64 can read out the fan speed. The msi fan has a maximum of about 2900 rpm in the DM3 when pressing Fn+1. Therefore the original ADDA fans are much louder at max speed. However, the msi fan moves a LOT of Air even at 2900 rpm, by using a stripe of paper the ADDA fans seem to puch just a little bit more air at 4000 rpm than the msi at 2900.

The noise characteristic of the msi is however also not optimal, seems to use ball bearing and generates a low rotor noise. However, it is much much silent than the ADDA and doesn´t exhibit this whining noise of the ADDAs at higher rpm.

I will have to figure out now how to fit the fan in the DM3, this could take a while ;-)

 

I stand corrected and accept Prema's statements.

 

Thank you...and the hold for 3K and G-Sync is duly noted.

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I just did this. Thanks for the heads up. I can't wait!

Damn you beat me! Hopefully I'm next in line.

 

The GT83VR 1070 owner never said the fans were "5k"...

 

I have the MSI GT73VR GTX 1080. The fans are loud @ 5k Rpm.

 

Keep us in da loop, man!

 

Bugger it, ordered, I hope that screen is good hehe!

 

That's nice, I bet you are real happy and proud of your new GT73VR 1080.

I suppose you confirmed the speed of the Max/Full fans in the MSI Gaming Center? Did you see the Custom fan curve settings section too?

Do you need to run the fans at Full/Max fans while using your laptop to game?

Or do you use the normal autofan / Custom mode?

How you like your new GT73VR 1080?

Please post some thoughts about your new GT73VR 1080, and maybe some benchmarks, over here:

The MSI GT73VR series......
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-msi-gt73vr-series.794968/

There haven't been a lot of GT73VR 1080 owners reporting results yet.

 

Just for info for anyone on the edge of deciding which reseller to buy from, I bought from mythlogic earlier in the year, i liked the way they fully test the system and send it with all the benchmarks and temps. At first they were pretty responsive if short with their answers to my many questions, i got the phobos a couple of weeks later than promised and the GPU went black as soon as i tried Dirt Rally on full. As you can imagine living in Abu Dhabi i wasnt too impressed but it happens, it took a couple of weeks of convincing and for them to finally ship a GPU out, they did it even with a tube of diamond paste. The problem is this was all done at my expense as they dont do an international shipping deal with the warranty. Point is, HID offer international shipping warranty for 200 USD, this is less than the cost of shipping GPUs backwards and forwards, imagine if youre not comfortable with changing components yourself or refuse to out of principle, that 6 kg lump will cos a fortune to return.

 

I did the same.
Finally my two year journey to find the replacement of my trusty G73 comes to an end.

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Its one small step for man, one giant leap for me.
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Noob question: what would happen when I connect the 5v DM1 fan to the DM3 fan connector which is intendend to drive a 12v fan. Would the mainboard "realize" that a 5v fan is connected and put out 5v or will it put out 12v and fry the 5v fan?

I am asking this because I am considering using the DM1 fans in the Dm3 because they have a very good noise charavteristic


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I'm willing to bet all my apples on frying the fan!

 

i was using the auto profile setting. The max gpu temp it hits 85c.
at 85c it runs at 5k rpm (very loud). But the cpu fan is always quiet

This screenshot i took while playing Overwatch

I had to return the laptop coz the gtx 1080 card died on the 10th day

 

Condolences... Sorry to hear the 1080 in your GT73VR died. That sucks. For a peak temperature that is not too horrible, but 85°C sustained for a long time is a little bit too warm to be good. When the fan kicked in did it stay hovering around 85°C under load in spite of the fan running full blast? I ask because there may have been something other than the core that was getting a whole lot hotter than 85°C that may have not been readily apparent. The only temperature sensor available to us is the core.

 

Hey @Mr. Fox ,

I'm not COMPLETELY done supporting the R2.. HOWEVER, don't hold your breath on me doing much more modding to that bios. I've literally updated the onboard vBios to the latest and greatest possible, the cpu microcode is likely not going to be updated, and it's last update was of 2014 I think, the NIC firmware was last updated a few years ago, the intel Rom / UEFI Module for RAID is the ONLY thing that COULD be upgraded, though unlikely, since there seems to be trouble using raid arry with v13+. (Some could do it, but others couldn't). Plus, the NvMe / M.2 support (sata), and the 800 + 900 legacy support, so everything really has been done that can be done. It's odd that dell doesn't at least "MAX" out the bios with the latest because that's as far as the chipset is really supported with what I've done. This way, they could truly say everything that can be done has been done & upgraded - but they are a bunch of d-bags when it comes to bios updates. Seems like it's up to us modders to pickup the slack from the slackers at dell! heh I do plan to get BOTH the R2's motherboards repaired - I HOPE. It'll be nice to at least have a backup. Just a shame that both had to die in a manner of weeks between each other! 2 dead m18xr2's in 8 weeks or LESS! *GRRRR / SIGH*!

I'm now excited about this fully loaded P870DM3 - I'm LOVING it. Fastest thing I've seen!
2 x 1080 SLI nVidia
6700k dil. CPU
64GB x 3000Mhz DDR4 Ram
2 x 1TB SanDisk M.2 SSD's (raid 0)
2 x 2TB Samsung 950's (raid 0)
1080 HD 120hz AUO Screen
Windows 7 Ult - 64Bit
(I stayed away from nVmE due to Mr Fox's recommendation - it CAN be utter HELL to install the NvMe drivers, so I figured I'd add them later!

BTW, As a side note - I'm actually creating an "auto installer" of sorts for this P870DM3 laptop. It has MOST (if not all) win7 64-bit updates integrated into the installer, all the DRIVERS are the LATEST version possible (at time of creation), the settings are all answered for you, and it'll install the driver bloat on first log-in if you want. It'll also install any other programs you may want / need! This way, if you do not want to create an image, this would be the next best thing. I'm not sure if it's what people would like to have, but I thought it could be useful? What do you all think? I'm also hoping to start updating and modding this bios and upgrading the modules in the near future!

One more thing... I'm curious and was hoping ya'll could help. I wanted to put v15.2 of intel RST on the system, to upgrade to latest version. The system would NOT boot after that was installed. Any idea's as to why? I believe the drivers changed the way they were named, slightly, but is that the issue or is it something else that I'm missing? Not sure if it adds any improvements, but the system seems like it can do a LOT more than what I'm using it for, heh! Any help would be appreciated!

 

Well, 4033 rpm is close to 5000 rpm

Kinda odd that it shows 0 FPS...

That's too bad the GPU died, that happens sometimes. Didn't the seller have another one to send you in replacement?

How did you like the GT73VR otherwise? Are you going to get another one?

 

What are you talking about? I never said any owner said anything about 5k fans. Apparently you did not click on his screen shot or we would not be having this conversation in the wrong thread.


Looks like 5k all day long in my book. What about yours?

 

Using 5V fans instead of the 12V is not a good idea unfortunately as they won't be able to cool the GPU/s on load - apart from that you'd end up frying the 5V fans due to over-volting. The voltages are set in the fan profile in the EC and exceed 5V; though they actually don't come close to running at 12V it's enough over 5V to cause issues with 5V fans.

 

The EC will assume you are plugging in 12V fans.

 

They can be modded with resisters, but then that's a lot of work for a fan that does not fit.

 

5.16k GPU 4.98K CPU, in that image, to be precise.

4033 rpm becomes 5k, and 5k becomes 5161 rpm.

And, I posted what I saw, and that image wasn't part of what I saw.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nvidia-gtx-1080s.794897/page-48#post-10344938