*** Official Clevo P870KM1/P870KM1-G/Sager NP9876 Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 3.0 ***

You want LGA 1151 delidder! 1150 is for earlier CPUs. Make sure it's a LGA 1151 Kaby Lake one (not just skylake) for 7700K.

Resealing is not essential so no need for the liquid gasket stuff (if you must reseal, use something weak or you may rip the CPU apart trying to delid again). The socket retention mechanism clamps the IHS in place well enough.

Kapton tape instead of electrical. It's thinner, tougher, and see thru as well.

Arcticlean kit also not strictly necessary, isopropyl and good (won't rip easily and leave chunks) absorbent paper towel for cleaning.

 

My bad, I forgot to mention it's for socket 1150 and 1151.
will go by your advices. Thank you a lot good sir.
*here's the delidder tool I found on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Rockit-88-De...3483&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=i7+7700k+delid+kit

 

Guys I'm looking forward to delid my CPU, and changing the IHS to a custom one, being Powerbits the most common one to go for (as far as I know), there are 2 options in the Taiwanese store:

1.-https:// www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=322_323&products_id=4381
2.-https:// www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=322_323&products_id=5645

Anybody knows the difference between these 2?

I'm asking this because I found the first one in Performance-PCS at 15 bucks more or less, while bringing the other one from Taiwan will cost me almost 50 USD, any help would be appreciated.

 

For Skylake and Kaby Lake, thinner and "Silver Shining" :

https://www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=322_323&products_id=4381
Feature :
1. Designed for Intel Skylake & Kabylake CPU.
2. Effective Temperature Reduction.
3. Increased Function Stability.
4. RoHS Compliant.

Dimensions (WxHxD) : 34x34.5x4.4 MM


For KabyLake only and is thinner, "Silver Shining" :

https://www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=322_323&products_id=5645 -
Feature :
1. Designed for Intel 7th-gen Kaby Lake CPU.
2. Effective Temperature Reduction.
3. Increased Function Stability.
4. RoHS Compliant.

Dimensions (WxHxD) : 34x34.5x3.4 MM
Material : Copper
Compatibility :
Intel 7th-gen Kaby Lake CPU
Intel Sky Lake CPU


For Coffee Lake only, Nickel plated:

https://www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=322_323&products_id=5801
Feature :
1. Designed for Intel Coffee Lake CPU
2. Effective Temperature Reduction.
3. Increased Function Stability.
4. RoHS Compliant.

Dimensions (WxHxD) : 34x32x3.4 MM

;-)

Delidding the CPU will make a good difference to temperatures, but I haven't seen any reliable data to show what difference a delidded CPU with non-Intel IHS makes - I think mainly because most people don't compare delidded Intel IHS to delidded 3rd-party IHS. Would be interested to hear if anyone has done this with individual testing.....but I haven't seen anything more than 1-2C difference.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6-owners-lounge.797128/page-724#post-10571157

You need to lap the Bitspower IHS. If not, no point in it.

For Skylake/Kaby lake you need the 4.4mm thick Bitspower lid.

 

So besides the thickness there is not much difference between the 2?

Do you know the difference between lapping an stock IHS and the Bitspower one? As far as my understanding goes both have copper underneath

 

Can be done. But be careful if you lap. The thicker 4.4mm Bitspower lid have headroom for being thinner. Dont go for the thinnest lid . Wasted monet and energy.

You shouldn't shave of too much. Or you will lose pressure.

 

Thanks mate, will keep all in mind, since I'm getting a custom IHS I guess I will shave first the stock one to see how proficient I am

 

Is this worth ?


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Intrinsically the bitspower lids dont help unless the dimensions are different and better for the chassis.

 

Well it really depends on who you ask, as far as I am aware of, lapping only gets you at most 5 degrees Clesius, but lapping and delidding is usually meant for people who want to experiment and take their devices to the bleeding edge, not necessary, nor it is safe, but is a fun and interesting thing to do for me.

I see, do you have any personal experience using any of them? As I've said before I will delid my CPU and lap the stock one, keep the Bitspower one intact just in case.

 

Yes, I have the skylake and kabylake lids from bitspower. The skylake lid does best on my 7700k and with my heatsink.

 

I just ask because its new to me however love to see. Thanks man keep posted



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Appreciated mate, I will go for the thicker one since you and Papusan adviced me so.

It was a shock to me as well, delidding is pretty standard, but man lapping was an eye opener to look into more hard-core methods, will post once I have all the necessary tools, I live in Ecuador so I have to wait until someone goes to the US to get me some love, and in this case it's 2 months from now

 

I would go for the rockit any day over the smaller bitspower:

 

Using the rockit on my P751tm without any problems.

 

Yes if you were replacing for on the same size I would use the one Prema was linking.

 

Thanks, didn't know there were other custom IHS, will get that one instead, and actually found a retailer for Rockit in EC so things will speed up

 

For kaby lake it's the one I would go for unless on a desktop is was that direct die water cooling block.

 

Oh man, would love to see a water cooled Sager, but not like the Asus one which is basically carrying your desktop with you.

 

Another tweak to improve temps!

 

Looks like this is 3mm thick. I wonder if it will fit on a km1. I got 3x 1tb in raid and they do get warm from time to time.

have you tried it? does it fit?

 

Not yet, but since the laptop model his using is almost the same as ours I think it will fit. Just make sure to buy the one in the link provided from the video since there are some brands that have 1 mm thick pad w/c may increase the thickness.

 

If you ever try it let us know! I got thermal pads on top of mine, not sure if they help but I am sure they don't cause any harm

 

so all this talk have a wild question , can the p870km1 fit in a p870dm3-g case????? as a simple swap of the main board??? in a sense???

 

@Donald@HIDevolution @Meaker@Sager @Prema @Phoenix ???? any know if can simplly swap out main board for the p870dm3-g ., to a p870km1-g?

 

You read my mind mate.

 

The simple answer is, unfortunately, no it is not simple.

Why do you want to change the motherboard?

 

i like my phillips 43 inch 4k monitor bleive it is ips and 120hz

 

been reading and reading and no one says yes nor no , as wel all the ports line up as i can tell , aslo i think all matches , except might need to get a newer top... the under neath of the keyboard for the 3rd m.2 slot but **** a little mod here and there and WHAM!!!

 

well , not that i want to more or say but at this time i am limited on my storage.... in a sense of internal , i mean i have over 120tb of externals lol , easily , but running dual 2tb 960 pro , and wanted to up for a 3rd 2tb , i use for main os , i mean i did see the new 8tb micro drives that came out 2.5 ssd, they are up there in the 1800-2000 range , but those would be later option for storage , as i use my toy for ummm not normal uses i test a lot of games for many ummm special people hahahaha best words to use lol , as well have one hell of a plex data base too... so yea the extra m.2 if a simple 500-600 cost for a main board gave me option of the newer chipset of the z270 vr z170 , and be able to use 3 m.2 , even if i just grab one of my older 1tb 950 and use a a cache drive for my internal storages....would be worth it

 

also any pointers on a p870dm3-g from you guys @Donald@HIDevolution , any pointers for droping temps some times i notice glitch i guess on when higher temps ...what should my avg temp be on gpu/cpu ... i have dual 1080 , as well i7 6700k delided , all from hid and prema , newest bios you guys just did on the machine ...

 

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Bought my computer like 6 months ago and after Intel announced their 8th generation will not be compatible with "older" mobos I slammed my head on the table, I bought this expensive piece of sophisticated equipment because I wanted it to be upgradable, so I was thinking what to do to make it so, and it came the same thought to my mind, but I don't think anybody has the answer but Clevo itself or somebody who already tried, would love to see it happen mate.

 

same thing happened to me when I had a P870DM, I thought it would be upgradeable to the next GPU but nope, I had to sell it and buy a new laptop to get the GTX 1080.

I suggest you do the same if you really want the 8th gen CPU but my advice is wait till there is a GPU + CPU upgrade and do it in one shot otherwise you'd be in the same situation when the next GPU is announced by the end of the year.

 

@Alejo1707 & @Jaces9900 - Heed Phoenix.

The Intel® Core™ i7-8700K uses the Z370 chipset, and the next gen Intel CPUs will use the Z390 chipset, so an upgrade from 8th to 9th gen is not likely.

The next gen NVIDIA laptop GeForce GPU won't be released until sometime this Fall, and will then be followed by the Intel 9th gen shortly thereafter.

I would be happy with what you have for now, and wait for both NVIDIA and Intel next gens. The probability that those will be upgradeable is much better, although no one can promise that, nor do they advertise it as upgradeable. We just never know for sure until the technology exists.

Even at that time you may well find that you are better off selling what you have, and buying new. The $$ difference will be about the same or better than upgrading the motherboard, GPU and CPU, and you will have a brand new warranty.

 

i was just wondering could one swap out a p870dm3-g to a motherboard from a p870km1-g????? does all match up between the two as this would be a wise way to get the 3 m.2 and z270 , even with min changes and improvements

 

and has anyone else seen the lost in horse power since the windows 10 Creators upgrade , about to reload and turn off all updates before connecting to inet am i the only one seeing these issues?

 

• How to enable or disable the Meltdown and Spectre Patches

Use that guide and create a text notepad for the disable the fix code to disable those patches which hurt CPU performance then save it with a *.reg extension and double click on it to merge it with the registry then reboot and enjoy your performance back. Although you need to bear in mind that if you do a BIOS update that has the CPU Microcode fix in it, then this is pointless since the fix is now in the BIOS itself.

 

Why not just use the InSpectre tool to disable or enable the respective protections? Two click is all whats needed.

 

oh........



Poopoosan pwns Phoenix >>>

 

Exactly...

 

True dat, unfortunately this is not a cheap computer I can change every 2 years and considering the country I am using it (LatAm) it's a disappointment, nevertheless it is a great computer and I will make sure to get all I can from it.

Isn't pretty much the point of these computers to mod them and play with their HW?

 

Sure, but you can't make up reality. You have to take the technology as it comes.

 

Well once I saw a Q9650 being overclocked by putting duct tape on some CPU pins, so I guess that everything is possible!! No but being serious, I agree that if the laptop chassis is different from the new model, then there are no options besides butchering it to make room for the new mobo, which of course won't happen, at least in my case. Nevertheless it is sad and exciting at the same time how quick things changes in technology, I guess that in the future, the only additions to my laptop will consist of getting another graphics card and maybe the second M.2 stick.

 

Back in the old days of course we would have had 4 graphics generations by now and your hardware would be obsolete where as now it is top end for 2 years.

 

I was looking for thermal pads guide for single GPU heatsync but found only this so far

I am looking for some fine pic of how thermal pads should be placed on heatsync + measurements ( there was one pic of it, but i cant find it). Please, meaby someone could help and post it?

 

What's wrong with that picture?

 

As far as I am aware, Mr. Fox has a really nice picture describing thermal pads location for the GPU, you might want to check it out. I know the picture shows GPUs on SLI, but it works just as fine for single one as far as my experience goes.

 

@Phoenix @Prema @Donald@HIDevolution any pointers to drop temps on this beast??? sitting around 54-57c at idle.....i7 6700k delided...prema bois was running cooler , but did bios update with hid other day , now temps up a bit....