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unfortunately i did it, with 0.9 volt and 1911 core clock but reached 91 °
http://i64.tinypic.com/124ddt3.jpg
im buyng the 6 pipe heatsink, but i wonder if it's some other problem, like that notebook is not able to play anygame....
i ordered some artic thermal pads, and tomorrow ill disassembly again the heatsink to check if thermal paste was in perfect contact with it.

 

Sounds like nvidia will continue to lock down voltages going forward even more.

 

If you already took it apart once and now the temps are even higher... Chances are there is some user error involved. You need to fix that portion before just throwing parts at the problem i'm afraid.
And if that was with max fans, then it means you either dont have enough TM on the gpu or one or a few of your original pads may be misaligned.

 

tomorrow im changing memory pads, as i think they wewre 1mm thikness and i read somewhere that they should be 0.5mm, plus i check thermal paste o ngpu and see if it is ok.

i repasted it because i had also high temperature, but even after repasting the same, so i think some pads are bad. i got the 6 pupe just to increase efficienzy in cooling.
i use notebook everyday gaming and dont want my gpu burn or broke.

 

Do this.....Before you go putting it all back together, do a test fit. Do this a few times. Then pay close attention to how the pads touch the pcb components. You will screw down the heat sink then un screw it and test for pressure.

I really have no clue what you are working on as I do not see your system in your signature. This might help others to help you as well.

 

tnx for helping. i got thermal pads today and checked heatsink, but all was in order. my pc is a clevo p870km with 1070.

even after repaste again, i see temp was going high again, but fans never get that high rpm, so i opened control center, and instead of automatic fan speed, i selected overclock, and now max gpu tem was 84°.

isnt automatic fan speed enought to tell pc to increase fan speed when temperature get high?

 

That is someone else rendition of what we should have as auto....

 

Auto fan is striking a balance on noise.

 

yesterday i got the 6 pipe heatsink and now temperature with overclocking profile for fan is lower by about 7 degrees with lower fan rpm and noise ofcourse.

im really happy now with this clevo.
however there is no way to enable the intel vga for lower temp and lower power consumption (just asking) ?
on my old alienware when i switch from intel to discrete i had to reboot notebook and that was so annoing i chosed to go always discrete only

 

No, it's not wired in at all.

 

Hey guys, quick question. Anyone have issues with their laptop not waking up from sleep or randomly freezing and needing to be hard restarted? It never happens when I am active on the laptop normally only when I'm away from it for a while. If you have any ideas please let me know how I could fix it.

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Usually that's down to either firmware or a 2d voltage setting on the gpu or idle voltage on the CPU. Base clock adjustments can also cause this.

 

Can a bad thermal pad application on GPU vrm, chokes cause games to crash? I'm not sure what happen but I just replaced my pads with new ones and suddenly all my games kept crushing. Out of 12 games only 3 are running fine and in benchmarks Timespy & Heaven crashes while Valley was able to complete but in the middle of the benchmark artifact and distorted images was shown for a few seconds. Tried to disable sli unfortunately that didn't help?

On that note the temperature is fine so I'm pretty sure the there is a good contact between the core and heatsink. Can someone help me.

 

Yes, it's the vrms that can overheat. Do the pads have imprints from them?

 

There are imprints if I use 1mm on Vrm but unfortunately the core is not hitting the heat sink if I use that thickness (90+ deg C on master gpu when I tried). So I just use .5mm Artic pads. I guess I'll be back using K5pro on vrms, never had problems when using it as a pad replacement. Any suggestion?

 

A softer 1mm pad and some additional pressure applied by hand on the heatsink when screwing it down.

 

Can you recommend a brand please. Alphacool, Phobya?

 

The phobya (non xt) ones are a medium softness. I always managed with them.

 

I recall someone posting a visual guide to thermal pad placements, complete with the thickness required for each area about a year ago. Does anyone happen to know about it or have a link to it?

Idle temps have been increasing and I was thinking of cleaning out the insides, but the last time I opened it the thermal pads were brittle and breaking off, so probably have to go about replacing them too.

 

here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...876-owners-lounge-phoenix-3-0.800081/page-182

By the way I'll be going back to K5 pro since I don't have the patience of cutting pads and doing the trial n error sh*t.

 

That's exactly it, thank you! I even liked those posts a year ago lol.

 

Getting the pads just right is the first key, do take your time and check your work

 

I cant find information about i7 8700k temperatures. Is it hotter than i7 7700k? Mby someone have coffelake in KM (which have smaller heatsync) and can share some information.

 

Yes it is hotter, it has 50% more cores and is equally as dense.

 

So i guess i7 8700 it is

 

The K can be tuned to any level where as the 8700 is fixed to where it is. This is the only thing to consider.

 

So I found that the X-Fi MB5's SBX downmixing with surround+crystallizer option is really nice for movies, especially watching blu-rays with my headphones. However, every time you change the output in the SBX Control Panel it also changes Windows' Sound Setup to match it, making it impossible to do 7.1 support in apps/games and have SBX take that and run it through its surround engine into 2.0 audio tailored to headphones.
I used a registry snapshot tool to see what the SBX Control Panel was changing when I changed certain options, and found that everything is located at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\MMDevices\Audio\Render\{754f85db-31a3-40cf-ac2a-679e2310188d} so what I did was set my sound output in windows to 7.1 full range layout, then set up SBX Control Panel how I wanted it until finally getting to the SBX output option and setting it to Headphones...had regedit open and just exported the whole key as I set it to Headphones in SBX and before SBX could change the Windows layout or vice-versa.
Now I just click sbx-7.1-headphones.reg whenever I want all my SBX settings and windows sound setup to be that. IT WORKS SO FLAWLESSLY.
I've started creating .reg files for every occasion, like gaming, movies, music and I never have to open the SBX Control Panel again lol.

I actually sent Creative a message about this and they were like "it's unintentional that users can downmix 7.1 audio for headphones like this with X-Fi MB5 and we won't support it"

 

about the audio, is there an option where if i use 5.1 speaker setup and watching a youtube or listening music, if i speack to microphone, the user wont listen my music but only my voice ? when i had a desktop with a creative sound blaster Z with that microfone i did that all the time and for gaming was amazing. now when i play game and im on discord, players will listen also my own ingame audio when playng with 5.1 ... :|

also on my old alienware the audio was a x-fi irecon3d, while here on clevo i have just a realtek audio chip with creative equalizer ?

 

Yep, if price wont kill me

@Meaker@Sager could you please tell me which BIOS do you use for coffelake support on KM1-G?

 

I own a TM model which I moved to from my DM3.

 

Is anyone aware of whether the pads referenced here are of every single thermal pad in the unit? http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nge-phoenix-3-0.800081/page-182#post-10558708
Also, where could I get them for a reasonable price?

I ordered what I thought was every thermal pad necessary from my reseller to replace the crumbling ones inside, but it arrived with just the thermal pad vrams and they will only refund me the cost of the pads minus the shipping(which was more than double what the pads cost), with the other option being making another purchase from them for the remaining pads. I've never felt so screwed over out of $140 for a couple of thermal pads before.

Edit: Donald reached out to me and rectified the issue!

 

Yes those are the pads. Phobya (non xt) or thermal grizzly pads are reasonable.

 

I am glad you are happy with how we resolved this for you.

Please let me know if ever they don't resolve any issues you have.

 

Nice one Donald

 

hi again,i would like to know wich bios i need on my p870km to make i5 8400 cpu works. what bios do i need and also do i need to cover the 2 cpu pins ?

 

No official BIOS supports it, you would need a modified one. The 7 series would be plug and play, you could find a 2nd hand chip for less usually.

 

i know official bioses wont support 8 gen cpou, but there is some thread that have some beta bios , but dunno if that would be good, or if there is some other special made bioses that works just perfect. also someone told me no pins mod is required, but on other thread if seen a socket cpu damaged on that 2 pins, so confusion is getting me

 

So guys, do we have definitive answer which is a better (temp wise) heatsink config for KM running single 1080 and 7700K/8700K:
- original KM vapour chamber GPU(s) heatsink that connects with CPU heasink using one heat pipe + dedicated CPU heatsink
or
- original KM vapour chamber GPU(s) heatsink that connects with CPU heasink using two heat pipes + dedicated CPU heatsink
or
- TM vapour chamber GPU(s) heatsink that is separate from CPU heatsink + standard KM CPU heatsink (not that one for vapour chamber)?

 

Better temperatures for what as each is just balanced differently to each component.

3 is the most CPU focused, 2 is the most GPU focused.

 

Let's assume that both, when CPU and GPU is doing lots of work (for example playing resource intensive game for many hours straight).
I think that separate cooling is better in general and Clevo clearly backtracked from KM (joined VC) solution.

 

The TM series has the highest overall capacity.

 

Quick question, so randomly my CPU voltage will reset itself to -100 instead of the -140 I keep it set at. It's not crashing or anything, I will be playing a game and notice its running hotter then normal and check it and Bam back at -100. Any idea what might be causing this? It's set through BIOS and clevo control center

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Likely the intel watchdog kicking in.

 

Maybe change tool...
The ThrottleStop Guide - Notebookcheck

 

I need new RAM, is this set confirmed working with KM1 -> https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3000c16d-32grs ?
System boots normally, no problems? What speed do they report when working, real 3000? Or 2666 is absolute max without tunning XMP profile?
I just want to plug and play. I need your reports because I won`t have possibility to return them if not working.

I`m on stock Clevo BIOS if it matters (please @Prema save me from this misery ).

 

They boot at 3000mhz yes, the stock bios should have memory timing/speed options.

 

Well, there are some options for that but lets say that going from premafied P870DM-G to non premafied P870KM1-G hurts
So what are you saying, there will be some working with RAM profile (which is greatly limited on stock BIOS) or is it pn`p?

 

3000Mhz is on the upper end so for me I use slots 1 and 4 and find that gives me the best compatibility.

 

Anyone looking to upgrade their KM1 to a TM1 and 9900K, I see this kit available.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123532129211

I suspect one could probably recover most (if not all) of the cost of the kit by parting out the KM1 leftovers on eBay.

 

I've got 1070 from TM1 version of P775 (gpuz in attachment). I would like to sell it but my customer has P870KM barebone. Will the card start on this vbios or he will need to change to a different version of vbios? When I bought 1080 from P870KM I had to change to TM vbios to run on my P775TM1. Is it the same when you swap from TM1 to KM?