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    *** Official Clevo P870KM1/P870KM1-G/Sager NP9876 Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 3.0 ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. artpra

    artpra Notebook Consultant

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    Just want to report that KM configured (firmware and hardware wise) as shown here can have GSync back and it`s as simple as changing LCD panel to correct one (whitelisted in stock Clevo TM BIOS).

    [​IMG]

    So KM1 flashed with TM BIOS (#1) and used with 9900K (#2), then equipped with AUO B173HAN03.1 (AUO319D) panel (#3) will give you Gsync back (#5) with great "little" bonus (#4). After seeing this screen in action, I don`t know what is better: having Gsync back or that 144Hz. Picture is superbly stable. It`s probably worth swapping for that refresh rate alone.
    What you can`t see on this screenshot is a 40 pin EDP cable that is necessary for this to work. If you bought KM-G originally with FHD 60Hz screen like I did, then you have wrong 30 pin cable - for sure. They have different part numbers (depending from which Clevo they are taken), but as long as it`s 40 pin then you are fine (mine is taken from first P870DM and have "6-43-P8721-010-1N").

    Many of you gurus here know this already and did this ages ago but well... here is another confirmation.
     
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    I got a Clevo P870KM with Z270 chipset and i7-8700K (yes, that is correct). Is there any difference to the P870KM1 (-G means Gsync from what I know)?

    Especially I'd like to know whether I can use these drivers: https://eurocom.com/ec/drivers(429)SkyX9C

    Also, do you know if there is any way to turn off the keyboard lighting without the Control Center, like in the BIOS/UEFI or a shortcut?
     
  3. jc_denton

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    Drivers from Clevo

    As for the keyboard backlight, not as far as I know. You can always pull out the RGB cable that connects the motherboard to the KB.
     
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    artpra Notebook Consultant

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    KMs were factory equipped and sold with traditional cooling, separate for each GPU.
    KM1s are sold with unified vapour chamber GPU cooling and CPU cooling joined with it.
    Both cooling solutions (heatsinks) are compatible with both models, so you can buy vapour chamber for your KM and make it a KM1 and vice versa.

    -G is for GSync, right.

    For drivers you can use linked Clevo website or a DVD bundled with KM and start from there - they are outdated, search for newer ones on your own or leave them be (if ain`t broken...). Ok, update the nvidia.

    For keyboard lights use KeyboardLED from Obsidian. It`s free and a miles better than Clevo solution. There is no "BIOS/UEFI" for that and a shortcut works only with full Control Center package.

    Enjoy your purchase, welcome to the lounge - you did the right choice!
     
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  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It was basically vapour chamber for dual 1080 cards and separate for everything else.
     
  6. Xenpo

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    I have a Mythlogic Phobos 8717 (which I believe is a Clevo P870KM-G).

    I am running into several problems, I am hoping folks here can help me with.

    1) I am unable to update my laptop firmware, as Mythlogic as a company has tanked; to make matters worse, they removed from the motherboard, all internal traces of what motherboard is in the system, so I have no way to track down and update my firmware and BIOS. Can anyone here help?

    2) The screen I have is 4k/IPS, but I am really looking for an 17.3 IPS (1980x1020) 144hz or 240hz panel. G-Sync or not. I have swapped laptop screens before, but I am unable to source something for my laptop and verify that it would work.

    Would this work?

    Monitor -

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BN-17-3-FH...616527?hash=item5220faa94f:g:ggYAAOSwnstdQzol

    Keyboard -

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-US-Bac...952772?hash=item215ee47b04:g:efQAAOSw~j1c2niJ

    3) I do have a 1080 GTX, but would it be possible to source and swap in a 2070 or 2080 RTX into the system? (curious query)

    The keyboard is going out, but I have sourced a replacement for that.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Hindsight is hard sometimes.


    Regards,


    Xenpo
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Hwinfo or windows system info can tell you firmware versions. The current model panels should fit.

    An unofficial BIOS is required for RTX support.
     
  8. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Not sure if the heatsink will need to be modified for RTX on your system. You should also take into the consideration whether the 1080 to 2080 upgrade is worth the price premium. Or you could try a vbios mod/power mod and squeeze more power from the 1080.

    On a side note, if you aren't having compatibility issues with your laptop, why are you updating EC/Bios?
     
  9. Xenpo

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    As stated Mythlogic modified something on the board itself, I cannot get any info through utilities like HWinfo, or the Windows command line about my motherboard, and Mythlogic (they currently exist as a LAN cafe) refuses to response to emails or phone calls.

    I might try that screen mod, thank you.

    I haven't honestly checked into the details of the 2070/2080 mod/upgrade, it was just more of a query.

    I do have quite a few blue screens, even after a clean wipe, ram and other hardware tests OK/GREEN; I was hoping an updated BIOS or other firmware would make the system more stable (hail Mary pass if anything)

    Honestly at this point I might just save up for a new system and wash my hands of this craziness.

    I do appreciate all the responses/time however.
     
  10. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Can you take a picture of what they modified on the board? Seems very odd.
    What hardware config is in your system? Is it overclocked/undervolted? How are the temperatures when idle/load?
     
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    I will get back to you all this afternoon when I am in front of my laptop and can provide more information. Thank you.
     
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    My friend has a P870KM1 and his keyboard light always revert to white color on restart and he wants to have it always red, any ideas why is keep reverting back to default?

    He is using Control Center 5.0001.1.88

    I told him that's not the latest official Control Center version for his laptop, I'll see what happens when he downgraded to the latest official for his laptop model which is: 5.0001.1.54

    Edit: reinstalling the official 5.0001.1.54 solved this problem.
     
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  13. Xenpo

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    I have not overclocked or underclocked any voltages on the system. Temps are good under idle and load. Here is the Summary from HWinfo.

    Computer: MYTHLOGIC Phobos 8717
    CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K (Kaby Lake-S, B0)
    4200 MHz (42.00x100.0) @ 4189 MHz (42.00x99.8)
    Motherboard: MYTHLOGIC Phobos 8717
    BIOS: 1.05.05MYT, 02/22/2017
    Chipset: Intel Z270 (Kaby Lake)
    Memory: 65536 MBytes @ 1197 MHz, 16-16-16-39
    - 16384 MB PC19200 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMSX64GX4M4A2400C1
    - 16384 MB PC19200 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMSX64GX4M4A2400C1
    - 16384 MB PC19200 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMSX64GX4M4A2400C1
    - 16384 MB PC19200 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMSX64GX4M4A2400C1
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (GP104M) [CLEVO/KAPOK COMPUTER]
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, 8192 MB GDDR5X SDRAM
    Drive: ST2000LX001-1RG174, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
    Drive: ST2000LX001-1RG174, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
    Drive: Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 500GB, 488.4 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
    Drive: Samsung SSD 970 EVO 2TB, 1953.5 GB, NVMe
    Sound: Intel Kaby Lake - High Definition Audio / cAVS (Audio, Voice, Speech) [A0]
    Sound: NVIDIA GP104 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Network: Qualcomm/Atheros E2500 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
    Network: Qualcomm/Atheros E2500 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
    Network: Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 Wireless Network Adapter
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 18362.239 (1903/May 2019 Update)


    RAM and drives were maxed out by me. No issues there. Check the following Windows [Command Line - Admin] output:

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic baseboard get product,Manufacturer,version,serialnumber
    Manufacturer Product SerialNumber Version
    MYTHLOGIC Phobos 8717 Not Applicable Not Applicable

    Something was tampered with for sure here.

    The only other thing I can think of is taking the whole thing apart and stripping it physically down to see if I can locate relevant information on the physical board itself [which would be a massive pain for me to do at this time]

    Regards


    Xen
     
  14. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Have you monitored/logged temperatures while using the system since you mention they are good? Or is this just going by how loud the system gets? In what scenarios do you get BSOD's?
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    BIOS: 1.05.05MYT, 02/22/2017

    That's the bios version which looks to be their own. Are there lots of options opened up? Where they a prema partner?
     
  16. Csupati

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    Hi ,I have a p870km whit i7 8700 and 1070 , what display upgrades available ? I have fhd 60hz , I cant find fhd 120hz screen in europe, only 144hz TM one, is it compatible ? Or qhd 120hz is better?
     
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    So long as the eDP connector (30 or 40 pin) is the same pin cou t it should be plug and play. Otherwise you need the cable too.
     
  18. Csupati

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    Okay, i will try both qhd 120hz and fhd 144hz display , maybe on next week, then i will reply is the 144 hz upgrade is compatible whit non g sync p870km.
     
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    They will work just fine so long as the cable is the right one.
     
  20. dencio

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    Hello everyone. Does anyone encountered before a blank screen on fresh install of windows 10 pro after NVIDIA drivers installation?

    My System Specs are:
    Origin P870KM1-G
    BIOS 1.05.05TOPC
    Intel I3 7350K
    8 GB Ram
    GTX 1070 (VBIOS 86.04.56.00.2B)
     
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    When did this start? Has it ever worked?
     
  22. dencio

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    Today. I did a fresh install of Windows 10 PRO. NVIDIA drivers (latest and previous) gives me blank screen after installation. Even my system is disconnected thru internet during installation same result.
     
  23. jc_denton

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    Have you tried FN+F7 to see if it's a display bug? Or perhaps FN+F2.

    Perhaps try using the iso/usb driver to see if same problem appears?

    Older system drivers
     
  24. dencio

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    Thank you for the files, downloading it now.
     
  25. dencio

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    No luck at all. The screen is still turns blank screen.jpg after NVIDIA drivers installation. I tried FN+F2 and F7 same result.
     
  26. dencio

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    Could anyone confirm this is an official BIOS (1.05.08) and if YES any settings do I need to change in BIOS prior to flashing?

    https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P87xKMx/

    The instruction on how update the BIOS:
    1. Make sure plugin AC adaptor.
    2. Run MeSet.EXE under pure DOS, the system will auto cold boot.
    3. Run FlashMe.bat under pure DOS.
    4. The system display flash complete message after flash success.
    5. Press power button override 4 seconds, and then re-plugin AC adaptor
     
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    Your reseller can usually send you the latest file.
     
  28. dencio

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    Same BIOS version received from Origin
     
  29. jc_denton

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    So the screen works fine up until the nvidia driver is installed?
     
  30. dencio

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    Yes..everything is working fine except NVIDIA driver installation which is kinda weird as the unit is fully working on previous windows
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

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    If a reseller sends you a file it should be good. I'd remove any overclocks/undervolts before flashing
     
  32. dencio

    dencio Notebook Enthusiast

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    We have same issue, the display turns blank after NVIDIA driver installation.

     
  33. jc_denton

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    I've never seen that before. If you remember what driver you used try rolling back to it after DDU'ing the newest drivers.
     
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    BSOD now after Nvidia driver installation “BAD SYSTEM CONFIG”

    I was planning to update the BIOS can anyone assist me on how to execute the below instruction.

    1. Make sure plugin AC adaptor.
    2. Run MeSet.EXE under pure DOS, the system will auto cold boot.
    3. Run FlashMe.bat under pure DOS.
    4. The system display flash complete message after flash success.
    5. Press power button override 4 seconds, and then re-plugin AC adaptor

    Many thanks!!!
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Are you still under warranty? From the looks of it you have a custom bios on the system. not sure if your vendor will cover you if you flash a different bios on there, albeit a clevo one.
     
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    Not sure if still cover with warranty, but will give it a try. I got the unit from ebay 2 months back describe as "open box" and it has no sign of usage regardless of having an I3 7350K CPU I do not have any issues before until the windows update messed up and force me to reinstall its OS.
     
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  38. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Definitely try to reach out to them first.

    And if you have to flash the bios, make sure to read up on it. From what I remember you need to flash the EC first, and then the bios. Some machines have 2 EC's that you need to flash. Perhaps @Meaker@Sager can answer.
     
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    Thank you and noted Bro. I received the same BIOS file version from Origin today. I have no idea what is messing up with system. I tried cleaning up driver using DDU in safe mode and after reboot some drivers manage to install successfully.. but after a few seconds the screen is losing its display.
     
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    Could be the gpu itself then.
     
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    Hoping someone here can help me with my problem.

    I ordered a memory upgrade, it's a kit of gskill DDR4 Sodimm 3200Mhz Cas Latency 18.

    I swapped them in and I am able to boot at the default Cas Latency 17 settings at 2400 Mhz however whenever I enable XMP Profile 1 and save and exit then it just boot loops indefinitely and never posts. I reset the CMOS and can get back in with the defaults. It is rated to work at 1.2V but I have tried stepping up the voltage also with no success.I'm not sure what it is I am doing wrong.

    Any advice would be appreciated.
     
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    Hi there,

    Going to 3200mhz is beyond spec, XMP 3000Mhz is what the system supports, just so that you know.
    To reach these speeds you're depending on IMC strength and the quality of motherboard traces. What CPU do you have?

    Now, I would try and manually set the timings and boot at 3000mhz at first. If it does train and boot, then try setting manual timings for 3200 and let it train. If it just bootloops for 15min, clear nvram, set manual timings for 3000mhz and then add QCLK Odd Ratio to see it the memory will train at 3100mhz.

    You can also try and see if XMP works if your ram are in dimms 1 + 4, as illustrated here.
     
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    Thanks, I did manage to get 3000Mhz to run. Cannot find any fault with the memory kit itself and XMP simply won’t post even when using the memory slots you recommended. Same applies when enabling QCLK.

    I am running a 7700K. I will just have to accept that 3000Mhz is the limit of what I am able to achieve and work to improve my timings.

    I am completely new to memory overclocking but I appreciate the advice.
     
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    Perhaps try setting the clock to 133x12, set the first two timings for the rated speed, ie. 18-19 and set everything else to 0. While selecting the correct voltage for rated speed (not sure if its 1.2 or 1.35v for your kit) but make sure to set tWTR=7.

    You will need to fn+d reset to try this.
     
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    I did attempt this before with no success. Tried it again just now and am still unable to post.

    The settings I am currently running are attached. I ran memtest for error checking overnight and they seem stable for now.

    8C5153C9-60B0-4239-8EDA-36DF63882C34.jpeg
     
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    You can try and set MRC fast boot=disabled under chipset tab. That might work. However, the downside is that it will need to memory train every time you restart/shutdown.
     
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    That will slow down booting and may not work every time depending on settings.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yeah, I would try this first and see how far you can go. 3000MHz is still ok with 7th gen chips in laptops.
     
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    3000Mhz is plenty for a quad core.
     
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    indeed. that was also my hard limit with my previous 7700k, and had a loooot of troubles getting 3000 mhz stable :)

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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